CO: 43% Bennet, 40% Buck (POS/FM3 8/28-9/1)
Emily Swanson | September 7, 2010
Topics: Colorado , poll
Public Opinion Strategies (R) / Fairbank, Maslin, Maullin, Metz & Associates (D)
8/28-9/1/10; 473 likely voters, 4.5% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(POS release)
Colorado
2010 Senate
43% Bennet (D), 40% Buck (R) (chart)
2010 Governor
48% Hickenlooper (D), 25% Maes (R), 15% Tancredo (i) (chart)
Comments
I would like to see a party breakdown in this one. Doubtful that Bennet is leading even if its in the MOE.
Bennet is too extreme for Colorado.
Posted on September 7, 2010 4:51 PM
Bennet is too extreme for Colorado.
Buck: "In the 1950s, we had the best schools in the world. And the United States government decided to get more involved in federal education."
Funny? Sad? Ironic? Do you think he's suggesting we go back to the 50s, when the marginal tax rate was 90%? Somehow I doubt that was his intention.
Posted on September 7, 2010 4:59 PM
Bennet is too extreme for Colorado.
Forgot this gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0iWCqAkps
Who's extreme here?
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:01 PM
Funny? Sad? Ironic? Do you think he's suggesting we go back to the 50s, when the marginal tax rate was 90%? Somehow I doubt that was his intention.
Nice strawman. I would say sad and 100% true.
If you read the quote without deliriously hateful eyes, you would see he's clearly saying that he wants the federal government out of K-12 education, like in the 1950's when it was locally run.
Who's extreme here?
Bennet. He voted for ObamaCare.
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:15 PM
The gender gap is huge in this poll with women favoring Senator Bennet by 15% and men favoring Mr.Buck by 9%. Since more women vote than men - I think the advantage is clearly for Senator Bennet here. It will interesting to see if other upcoming surveys of this race show a swing or if this poll continues to look like an outlier.
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:26 PM
500 people divided amongst 6 study areas meaning less than 100 people per area. That's why the MOE is so high.
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:32 PM
1950's education system was a joke where only rich white kids got quality educations. if you were poor or black, you were dependent upon your local school board and guess how much money they funneled into your school?
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:33 PM
1950's education system was a joke where only rich white kids got quality educations.
How is that any different than today?
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:48 PM
I guess I don't see why disapproving of abortion in the case of rape or incest is more extreme than disapproving of abortion because you think it terminates a human life. If you believe human life (and presumably protection under the constitution) begins at conception, then the reason for the pregnancy makes no difference.
In any case, this won't be an issue in Senate race - the S.Ct has defined the Constitutional parameters of abortion, and the Senate won't be changing that. Buck gets the advantage of lip service to the people for whom his beliefs on this issue are important (evangelicals), without concerning independents since most wouldn't care what he thought about the issue.
I still think Buck has this in the bag. Despite Bob Schiefer trying to attribute Dan maes comments to "Joe" Buck on the CBS Sunday program.
P.S. Maes is being abandoned in droves. Hank Brown, Bob Beuprez and Mike Rosen (conservative on radio) have all called for Maes to drop out. Don't think it will happen, though.
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:49 PM
Field Marshall,
Supporting "Obamacare" is not extreme. Sorry. A plurality in most polls might not like the healthcare overall but that doesn not make it extreme. It is not a government takeover and it does not add to the deficit...in fact it reduces the long term defict and also extends the life of Medicare for 10 years.
When people are asked about the most important provisions of the new law the majority are usually in favor including the not included "public option". The overall package got a bad name from misinformation and a messed up process.
So Bennet is in no way "extreme".
Posted on September 7, 2010 5:58 PM
@Cecerico
Health Care reform is extreme. Most people see Obama's policies as extreme. Look at the polls. And it's a majority that are against the health care bill........not a plurality.
@dpearl
Men are much more likely to vote in this midterm than women are.
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:06 PM
I meant the health care bill when I referred to health care reform.........I meant the Obama meaning of reform.
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:07 PM
Why is FM3 marked "D" when POS is not marked "R"?
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:15 PM
"Men are much more likely to vote in this midterm than women are."
Fred: I see no data to support that. It is obvious that men SAY they are more excited about voting and CLAIM that they will vote in greater numbers- but 30 years of experience belies that.
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:24 PM
*Clears throat*
If I may sum up my thoughts on this poll:
AHAHAHAAHAHAHA.
That is all.
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:36 PM
Hasn't deadline to drop out of the race passed? I think they're stuck with Maes, like it or not.
Although I suppose that was probably just for getting his name on the ballot, he could still drop out at any time I suppose.
Posted on September 7, 2010 6:59 PM
Field Marshel,
Do you really think the quality of an education offered to African Americans today is the same as the 1950's. ReallY? I just don't know how to respond to that. You almost seemed reasonable in many of your postings but you lost me on that one
Posted on September 7, 2010 7:14 PM
Shabby: Buck's comments had NOTHING to do with race. Stop making it into something it isn't.
Other news: Mary Matalin says the chances of a GOP Senate takeover are at 90%. That's insane.
Posted on September 7, 2010 7:20 PM
Oh brother. Michael Bennet is not winning now nor will he be in November. Colorado has seen a dramatic swing to the right and my hunch is that we'll lose the governor's race and then win just about everything else. When all is said and done I suspect Buck will win by close to 10 points and Republicans will hold 5 of 7 congressional seats.
Big year in Colorado if you're rooting for the red team.
Posted on September 7, 2010 7:57 PM
I made some tough predictions back in May, and I am going to go back in the archives on Nov 3rd and see how close I was. I think I gave the Dems over Republicans a 53-46 edge, and predicted Crist will win. Even if my predictions don't work out, I think that Matalin is wrong. I give the GOP a 40 percent chance at the Senate, and probably a 60 percent chance at the House.
My prediction was a small Rossi Victory in Washington, which I hope I don't get right, a win in PA, for Sestak which doesn't look like it will happen, but I predicted this seat would go Democratic, and that was before Buck got the nomination.
I can't change my picks, so I have the Dems getting CA, WI and IL barely; NV and CO by about 3 or 4; I have to stick to Sestak pulling it out by 1 or 2 in PA.
I predicted, WA, ARK, IND, DE, and a surprise in WA.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:01 PM
"Buck's comments had NOTHING to do with race."
Probably not. But those comments are overly simplistic and rooted in nostalgia for a time that wasn't how he thinks it was. In the 1950s a large percentage of students didn't even get to high school, much less graduate. Today adults in the U.S. with a H.S. diploma or GED are in in the 85% range. I guarantee you overall literacy rates are better now.
Ie: special ed. In the 1950s you either put those kids in institutions or didn't send them to school. Now we try and educate them to some extent so they are not completely marginalized. I'd say that's a good outcome of federal involvement.
Women in education: I don't even need to get started on that one, do I?
Today we educate the population near-universally and are fairly successful at it. It looks bad compared to other countries because they weed out a lot of their low performers well before the high school level and put them on non-academic tracks. We don't, for better or worse.
But a lot of people will fall for Buck's "things were better in the 1950s" argument.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:13 PM
Probably Colorado is like PA, and some places have moved back to the right, however the state has progressed. I think in some ways it is a little like by neighbor, the Granite state of NH.
I only predict races that you know who the candidates are, and I will change it on DE and NH, if Castle and Ayotte aren't the nominees. The tea party guy in NH, could upset Ayotte, because like CO, the NH GO is still extremely far right. They used to be more centrist, but many of the older moderates who used to be Republicans in NH are now independents or fiscally conservative Democrats.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:15 PM
Do you really think the quality of an education offered to African Americans today is the same as the 1950's.
No, but where in my post did i mention anything about african-americans? Typical left wing race card being played. The quality of the average persons education in K-12 has diminished thanks to the federal gov't and most of all, the teachers unions.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:20 PM
Public school education has been so dumbed down in this country over the past 4 decades its ridiculous. Our students learn significantly less than our European counterparts. Not only that, but we teach them a mere 180 days in total for a year, compared to over 220 in Japan and 210.
I'm not looking back on overly simplistic times as i wasn't alive in the 1950's, let alone the 60's. Simply look at the curriculum and test scores to see the difference. Sure, people today are more evenly educated but like i said, lowering the quality of education so that everyone can graduate doesn't do most people much good. But that sort of logic is something that socialists strive for. Equality of outcomes rather than equality of opportunity.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:25 PM
It is kind of strange why they are asking Maes to step down and not run, when Tancredo is just as crazy too. Maes may believe there is a secret plot from the Mayor of Denver to use bikes as a conspiracy from the UN and world Communism, yeah right! Tancredo, on the other hand has a quick easy problem to the illegal problem. That is what I call the FINAL SOLUTION!
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:29 PM
"Field Marshal:
Public school education has been so dumbed down in this country over the past 4 decades its ridiculous. Our students learn significantly less than our European counterparts. Not only that, but we teach them a mere 180 days in total for a year, compared to over 220 in Japan and 210.
"
That is because those countries actually have taxes that are much higher than ours. The problem with America is people are so scared of taxes, they forget that the services they recieve with education included will be inferior.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:32 PM
"Public school education has been so dumbed down in this country over the past 4 decades its ridiculous. Our students learn significantly less than our European counterparts"
Their high school is like our university. They are teaching only to their smart kids that's why they out perform us. It's like our honors or magnet programs, which if you only counted those I have no doubt we would be just as good or better.
In France, around 7th grade you are put into a vocational or academic track. Problem is you can't really "go back to school" like you can here. Once on vocational track it's unlikely you'll ever be college educated, because those slots are reserved for the new up-and-comers. That's a lot of pressure on a 14 year old. Your career track is more or less set at that point. Here we put the pressure on our 20-somethings. I will admit that is less efficient.
Personally I like our system that offers more choice, despite its inefficiencies.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:38 PM
H.S. has been dumbed down. Looking at my dad's report cards... he had to take Latin, advanced math, etc... Literature classes... stuff you would only take at a mid-level or higher university today.
Posted on September 7, 2010 8:41 PM
"BigMO:
Oh brother. Michael Bennet is not winning now nor will he be in November. Colorado has seen a dramatic swing to the right and my hunch is that we'll lose the governor's race and then win just about everything else. When all is said and done I suspect Buck will win by close to 10 points and Republicans will hold 5 of 7 congressional seats.
Big year in Colorado if you're rooting for the red team."
5 of 7 house seats? You predict wins in the 3rd AND 7th CDs? That's very very bold...
Posted on September 7, 2010 9:36 PM
I think the 7th could go either way, but Scott Tipton in the CD-3 has been polling about 3-8 points ahead of Salazar. And I really do think that CD-7 sort of epitomizes the political sentiments of not only the average Coloradan, but also the country more broadly. Ryan Frazier is an exciting, competent candidate running against a boring, left-winger who has simply ceased representing Denver's conservative suburbs.
I am nearly certain that the GOP will take 4 of 7 congessional races, and Frazier will eak it out in the 7th barring a controversy or a shift in the political winds.
Posted on September 7, 2010 10:32 PM
Bennet is hardly too extreme for CO, (btw Field Marshall was making the argument that Bennet was reasonable and Romonoff was too extreme for CO in the primary).
Likewise, Buck probably IS too extreme for Colorado. Bennet should have no trouble winning this one.
Posted on September 7, 2010 10:33 PM
Agreed. Bennett wins this.
After the election, the Senate will be:
Dems 54
Reps 44
Indies 2
Posted on September 8, 2010 12:07 AM
If I hear one more nutjob libertarian tell me that our schools need privatized, I might punch him in the face. I couldn't have received a better education. My high school was named high school of the year in 2003 by Time which includes private schools. If I had gone to a private school, tests would have cost me about $1,000. Honest to god, these IB classes are more strenuous than most of my university classes.
Unfortunately, this program was a victim of the budget crisis.
Posted on September 8, 2010 10:09 AM
Bennet is hardly too extreme for CO, (btw Field Marshall was making the argument that Bennet was reasonable and Romonoff was too extreme for CO in the primary).
Likewise, Buck probably IS too extreme for Colorado. Bennet should have no trouble winning this one.
LOL. I thought anyone who didn't have the same ideology as i do is extreme? At least that's what i've gathered from many of the liberal commenters on the board.
How is Buck too extreme for Colorado?
This whole 'extreme' thing is the new mantra of the left. They have nothing to run on: their record over the pat couple of years is terrible, they have no real agenda, and the few things they do have are very extreme, i.e. cap and trade.
Its funny to see who soaks up the propaganda and repeats it willy nilly. Its indicative of our public school system and lack of critical thinking. See how i tied in our school debate into my post?
Posted on September 8, 2010 11:21 AM
Republicans posting on this site are acting as if the election were being held tomorrow. I'm sure that you wish it were. I would feel the same way if the Dems were doing as well in the polls. But do you really feel in your heart of hearts that this election result is set in stone? Generic Gallup fluctuating by 10 points in one week, speaks of extreme volatility. I think there will be many interesting twists and turns before November 2.
Posted on September 8, 2010 11:22 AM
Unfortunately, 99.9% of students can't go to Time's High School of the Year. And because public schools face little or no danger of reprimand, and teachers no danger of being fired based on performance, the vast majority of Hogh Schools do not strive to emulate Time's High School of the Year.
We had to move mountains to get our kid into a better public High School after his freshman year. We only succeeded by telling everyone he was afraid to go back to his school because of threats of physical violence, tolerated by a public High School with insufficient concern for discipline. In a privatized system, everyone could go to the best High School, and the worst High Schools would improve or disappear. Instead, in our system, the kids with the parents most involved in their kids' educations use political connections and unrelenting complaining to get their kids the best education. This disadvantages the kids of less involved parents (like single parent homes, and the children of less educated parents).
Note, I am not supporting the end of publicly funded education. Just the end of publicly administered education. Vouchers provide citizens the funds to pay for any High School, but leaves them wit hthe choice of which schools get those funds. Note also, president Obama even is supportive of increased use of Charter Schools. Where do you think he sends his kids?
Posted on September 8, 2010 12:35 PM
I would say that Buck, Angle, Miller and Brewer are the most disturbing candidates I have seen in a long time, along with Palin. There is a new poll on Rasmussen that still has Jan Brewer up by 22 points. That is just sickning, after she talked about delusional beheadings and had no evidence to defend her point. I saw that debate, or parts of it, and she acted like she just took about 5 tranquilizers. It says something about Arizona, which is disappointing to me.
I was not surprised to see Vitter up in approval, but I honestly thought Arizona had more class than to nominate someone like Brewer. It is sad that people have become so anti-immigration in that state, that they have more or less thrown all other issues out the window. They will regret it.
Posted on September 8, 2010 12:36 PM
Bennet, like Conway, is another spineless loser:
"In the latest blow to President Obama's proposed $50 billion infrastructure stimulus plan, Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), a close White House ally, announced his opposition to any new spending to try to jump start job creation.
Bennet, who won a narrow Democratic primary last month in part because of Obama's overt support"
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/09/bennet-in-tough-colo-senate-ra.html?wprss=44
Poetic just though, since Obama supported Bennet over the more progressive Romanoff.
Posted on September 8, 2010 12:43 PM
Farleft,
I would say that Obama, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Franken, Grayson, Durbin, and Boxer have been, and still are, the most disturbing and destructive politicians in this country in a long time.
Posted on September 8, 2010 1:03 PM
Paleo,
Most democrats are spinless loser. Bennet is just trying to move to the center in an attempt to win the election- typical politician. Buck has just started putting up ads using Bennet's OWN quotes against him. For instance, he has one commercial where Bennet says the USA has $13 trillion in debt and nothing to show for it and then the commercial ties him to ObamaCare. Bennet is going to get smoked, similar to Lincoln in AR, just not as badly.
Posted on September 8, 2010 1:06 PM
I would even bet money on it, that Bennet would win. CO has early voting, and stronger turnout than other states. I predict there will be almost as many Democrats coming out to vote as Republicans. I honestly think that Buck is such a bad candidate, that I would give Fiorina or Dino Rossi better odds at beating an incumbent.
Posted on September 8, 2010 2:15 PM
"Farleft,
I would say that Obama, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, Franken, Grayson, Durbin, and Boxer have been, and still are, the most disturbing and destructive politicians in this country in a long time. "
There is nothing wrong with being feisty; I have seen Orin Hatch and Kit Bond getting just as fired up as Durbin or Dodd, but even though I would agree with them on much, I think they are honorable statesman. I think the new tea party candidates this year have more or less echoed Jim Demint, and simply want to do away with our entire infrastructure. As for making the statement by Brewer about "Beheadings" withou documentation is delusional. If a Democratic candidate in Mass, said anything that ridiculous, he would lose by 20 points, and he would deserve it.
Perhaps Al Franken as a writer, I admit said some things in his book that were in poor taste, and I am surprised he did get elected.
As for Alan Grayson,I think he has guts, and it has been proven that most insurance companies don't want sick people and have dropped coverage. Grayson said nothing that was wrong, and he didn't sware or anything like that. Yes, Franken, I have seen him acting like a bafoon at times and giggling on the senate floor, but than again, you had at least 4 or 5 Republicans talking and texting during Obama's health care speech last September. Of course they have the right to disagree with health care reform, but saying "You lie" by Joe Wilson to an elected official was just not cool. If Barney Frank or Alan Grayson had said to George Bush about Iraq, I bet the Democratic establishment would have asked them to resign.
Barney Frank, isn't afraid to speak his mind, and one time he was speaking and some conservative Boston Herald Reporters were laughing and disturbing people by talking, and Frank, interupted his speech to ask them to either stop acting like 8th graders or leave the room. It was disrespectful, and it takes guts to do that.
I bet if I were a reporter, and was texting and joking while Jim Demint was giving a speech, you would agree with him if he had threatened to throw me out?
Posted on September 8, 2010 2:45 PM
Jim DeMint is one of the few honest statesmen in the senate. Buck would be another when he wins against Bennet, who is a terrible candidate.
Posted on September 8, 2010 2:55 PM
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