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DC: 2010 Mayor (Washinton Post 8/19-26)

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Washington Post
8/19-26/10; 1,277 adults, 3% margin of error
780 registered Democrats, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Post results)

Washington, D.C.

2010 Mayor: Democratic Primary
Registered voters: 49% Gray, 36% Fenty, 1% Brown, 1% Alexander
Likely voters (MOE=5%): 53% Gray, 36% Fenty, 2% Brown, 2% Alexander

 

Comments
Vance Ulrich:

I really dont understand how Fenty could have done a better job. Crime is way down, schools are improving, and he signed into law gay marriage.

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nick283:

Vance, #3 is actually pretty unpopular.

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boomer40:

nick, that is simply not the case.

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nick283:

According to polls 6 in 10 district residents wanted to put the gay marriage issue to a public vote rather than passing it through the council and the mayor. While the idea of gay marriage may be fairly popular in DC, it passing the way it did was not.

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Vance Ulrich:

Nick, you ought to check the facts before you comment. A Washington Post poll in January 2010 when the bill was being debated found that 57% of Washingtonians support it and 35% oppose it. This isn't a hick town in the deep south. 92% of Washingtonians voted for Obama and 85% of Washingtonians think Obama is doing a good job. This is also the city that legalized medical marijuana on a referendum with support of like 60%.

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Vance Ulrich:

Nick, I doubt that this is going to change the election. Washingtonians have more to worry about than which way gay marriage was legalized. A vote might eventually come up if the conservative nutjobs take over congress and force their crap down our throats.

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StatyPolly:

Just democracy at work. As this article accurately points out:


"..America as a 70/30 nation, with the 70 percent presently massively underrepresented in the federal government, the Manhattan-Beltway media elite and academia.

The 70 percent is appalled by the placebo economics practiced by the president and the Congress over the past two years, shocked by its profligacy with the wealth of the republic, and sickened by the looting of the next generation's opportunities.

The 70 percent did not want Obamacare, but it has been thrust upon them.

The 70 percent did not want federal judges to declare "game over" in the complex discussion of what marriage is and means.

The 70 percent want a fence on the border that works, and do not want their concern over unregulated immigration dismissed as nativisim.

The 70 percent are not ashamed of their belief in God, deeply resent being labeled bigots because they view ground zero as land that ought not to be exploited for "messaging" of any sort by any group, and are enraged by the scorn which they encounter everywhere in media except Fox News and talk radio.

The 70 percent believe that the federal government is remote and clueless, and that the Constitution's principles of enumerated and limited powers and the sovereignty of the states are vibrant, important core values to the republic.

The 70 percent think Iran is in the grip of an evil, theocratic fascism, and that Israel is our true friend and ally deserving of our full-throated support."

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nick283:

Vance, you were talking about achievements as reasons people should vote for him. I was just saying that one of the achievements wasnt very popular with the electorate when it happened and therefore probably isnt going to be a reason for people to vote for him. By the way, not sure how these "nutjobs" would be forcing that down someone's throat if the majority of people wanted that. I agree with you though, gay marriage probably won't help or hurt Fenty.

I actually liked Fenty when he ran the first time. Haven't followed his administration that closely since i moved away from DC, but I have heard there have been allegations of corruption in the way his administrations has awarded city contracts. Maybe that's hurting him.

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boomer40:

Fenty signed the bill. Vince Gray was chair of the council that passed the bill and shot down every attempt to block it. Between them, they are getting 89% of the likely vote. Competing candidates who think civil rights should be put up for a Gladiator-style thumbs up or thumbs down are getting a fat 4%. With those number it's basically impossible to make the argument that there's a groundswell of opposition to supposed overreach by the District government. As for the 60% number cited above, first, it's a pointless question about a process that would violate longstanding District law and is not going to happen. And second, it's a question that would evince a "yes" answer for just about anything. If you asked whether voters should take a vote on, say, whether to build a dedicated bicycle lane on Pennsylvania Avenue, I bet a majority would respond in the affirmative.

I do like watching the mental gymnastics of gay marriage opponents. If the courts step in, it's time for a constitutional amendment through the legislature and public vote. If a legislature passes something, then put it up for a people's veto. If the people approve, which they inevitably will, then get the courts involved--you can't just redefine a centuries-old tradition with one majority vote, after all! It's not about process--they just don't like gay marriage and will use any means necessary to stop it from happening. It's a good example for gay marriage proponents in the future: take what you can get when you can get it.

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nick283:

Wow, Boomer, really taking a reach there. You may have missed the part where this was listed as one of Fenty's achievements. When this was up for a vote, most people thought it shouldnt have passed through the council. Not taking a position on gay marriage in DC one way or the other.

I actually generally agree that the legislature should decide things and then the people can vote them out if they don't like it. I definitely don't think DC's marriage law should be overturned simply because it passed through the council rather than being put to a vote. Need to calm down a bit... Wasn't making an argument about gay marriage generally, just saying that I don't think that the passage of gay marriage would help Fenty since what he did wasn't popular. The fact that Gray supported it as well should make it even more of a nonfactor.

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nick283:

By the way, if there was something in DC law saying this kind of thing needed to be done by referendum then I would think it should be overturned, but not aware of anything like that. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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boomer40:

I guess I was reacting to you saying that it won't help him because gay marriage is unpopular. That's wrong on a few levels, which we have already discussed and it sounds like we're kind of on the same page there, at least in terms of Gray's involvement in the marriage bill.

What was ruled illegal was Bishop Jackson et al's proposed referendum to put the issue up for public vote, thanks to the District's Human Rights Act, which outlaws any initiative that would result in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation (among others). That law has been on the books since 1977.

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Louis:

stat Poly,
Thanks for all the reason I am not part of the 70%.
But with few exceptions every Congress man , Senator and the President are there becuase they got over 50% in an election.
I don't know of a single major issue that is 70-30 though I am sure you will dig one up for me.
Nor in this complex society do all the people who say yes or no on a particular question agree with each other. So when you gather up all the people on your side on one issue you will discover that you don't neccesarily agree on another.
I won;t argue with you on all your statement . Just one. If every building within a two blocke radius is sending a message because they are two blocks form Ground zer, the what kind of message are the stripclubs, bars, payday loan servies etc. sending.
Why is prasing G-d ever a bad message. Unless you want to shut down any church's, syangoguges and buddhist temples that might be withing two blocks as well.

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