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Lunctime Status Update for 12-16


The last 24 hours brings us 25 new statewide polls, all from one source: American Research Group (ARG). Their surveys, all conducted between September 7 and 16, involve 600 interviews in each state. This polling fete -- conducting 15,000 interviews in 10 days using live interviewers -- has produced the usual queries to my inbox? "Could they really be doing that many calls?" "Who is paying for all that polling?"

More on that below. We have also logged new surveys from Rasmussen Reports in New York, PPP in Virginia and the Field Poll in California. The bottom line is that the new ARG surveys shifted our classifications for two states:

  • New Mexico moves back from toss-up to lean Obama, an apparently temporary shift resulting partly rom an outlier odd Zogby Internet survey released earlier in the week (see my discussion here).
  • West Virginia moves from strong McCain to toss-up on our map. The issue here is that we have had only three general election polls all year in West Virginia, with today's new ARG survey being the first since June.

Unfortunately, the West Virginia scenario -- very few polls, big gap since the last poll -- shows up a shortcoming in the regression trend estimates we run. Ordinarily, those estimates have the virtue of mashing up results from many polls, which tends to minimize the contribution from outlier results. In this case, however, the estimate is based almost entirely on the ARG poll. Since that has McCain with just a four-point lead (49% to 45%) lead within sampling error, the map lists West Virginia as a toss-up.

The net result is that Obama gains back 5 electoral votes from New Mexico and McCain loses the 5 in West Virginia, bringing the total to Obama 243, McCain 219, with 76 in the toss-up category. (And yes, we know that our map is has been displaying the erroneous number 81 for the toss-up category. It's the result of a data entry glitch that we fixed and should be cleaned up momentarily).

Also, the daily tracking results have shown a modest shift to Obama in recent days and those new numbers now show a reversal in the recent trend, with Obama's estimate on our national chart (46.3%) now moving ever so slightly ahead of McCain (45.0%)

As for ARG's funding, here is the way ARG's Dick Bennett responded in May 2007 to our question about who pays for their surveys:

We still rely on subscriptions to what used to be commonly known as omnibus surveys.** The difference, however, is that we package each state and national survey separately. Unlike a traditional omnibus, there is no set schedule or guarantee of a survey without repackaging. We do a lot of panel building and have been fortunate in the past 6 months because we have been tracking household telephone, cable, and Internet access around the country and that allows for the addition of the political questions. Campaigns cannot be subscribers (but I know that some campaigns receive the latest numbers shortly after our subscribers and before public release). We are always looking for new subscribers willing to allow the political questions as part of the surveys. Subscriptions are not inexpensive -- no $199 for the entire race deals -- and subscribers pay proportionately for each survey.

**An omnibus survey is one that allows multiple paying clients to buy questions.

 

Comments
Baz744:

I wanted to point out an apparent discrepancy, in case someone hasn't noticed it yet.

Gallup today reports Obama ahead 47-45. This is from their own website:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110446/Gallup-Daily-Obama-47-McCain-45.aspx

But on your tracking chart, you report Gallup as reporting McCain ahead, 47-45.

It's possible Gallup misreported on its website. Or it's possible a mistake was made on this end. I wouldn't hold it against either party, because hey, mistakes happen. But I'd like to know where the error is. Does Gallup show an Obama lead or a McCain lead?

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Baz744:

I see. I think I was looking at previous Gallup. Sorry.

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zelduh:

It is now safe to say that the McCain/Palin "bounce" has ended...

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StatsProf:

Mark -

My MBA students looked into this and even a small call center could easily complete the work when calling across the country with a short questionnaire, which appears to apply here.

This is well within the realm of what most corporations would expect from a vendor. Why should it be different in politics?

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bythesea:

How are the pollsters accounting for the shift from land line phones to cell phones and the resultant lack of availability of those voters? With the Obama campaign focusing on young people this inaccessability of some voters would seem to be a problem. If you've already addressed this issue can you tell me where?

Oh, and get rid of typekey. that's a pain.

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RaleighNC:

Thanks for clarifying WV.

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just_observing:

"Lunctime Status Update for 12-16"

lunctime? December??

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JimGray:

I still push for moving MI to an Obama lean. McCain's in Grand Rapids tonight, but that place is hardcore Republican stronghold. He's not collecting any new support there. MI is most definately in vigorous support of Obama due to the economy.

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JWilly48519:

Fete = banquet, party, celebratory meal.
Feat = notable accomplishment.

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brambster:

@JimGray

The trend lines and confidence interval dictates whether stares are tossup, lean or likely, and not an administrator's opinion (outside of choosing the statistical method). If anything, Pollster doesn't interfere enough as they include campaign sponsored partisan pollsters, include results from Zogby Interactive (which are crap voluntary polls where the result have more to do with weighting than the actual responses), and the inclusion of too many Rasmussen polls giving them unequal weight while also being the most biased of pollsters according to house effects compared to the average of pollsters.

So in short, Michigan will move to light blue when it breaks the confidence interval (which I think is 95% and varies state to state based on the number of polls and how much the polls vary).

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PHGrl:
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