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MA: Obama 59, McCain 35 (SurveyUSA-9/13-14)

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SurveyUSA
10/13-14/08; 624 LV, 3.9%
Mode: IVR

Massachusetts
Obama 59, McCain 35
Sen: Kerry (D) 59, Beatty (R) 29, Underwood (L) 5

 

Comments
mysticlaker:

Shocker.

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OGLiberal:

Why bother? I mean, seriously, the Senate race isn't even close here.

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whitetower:

I was on the edge of my seat waiting for these results.

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mysticlaker:

Are we expecting any big national or state polls today? Anyone know...

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lilyogini:

why are we wasting energy on massachusetts? it's like polling california.

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NW Patrick:

We've had INTERESTING polls not get posted for a forum..now this one? LOL I am so relieved MA is safe!

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Trosen:

New OH Ras coming out later today.

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JCK:

I guess WBZ-TV was interested enough to pay for this, but I have to ask why?

Maybe they have a contract with SUSA?

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NW Patrick:

Can we ignore Boom today? State polls have been awesome for Obama. When McCain's racking up 30 to 40 point wins in low info red states it's bound to change some tracking #'s. WHO CARES. The fundamentals of the race are right where they've always been. So Obama loses 1 in Rasmussen today. YAY. He gained 1 in Zogby. BOTH of these pollsters are on the WAY WAY CONSERVATIVE side. There are two kinds of pollsters this year folks... some going on "traditional" voter turn out... and just as many believing this will be a break out year for voter turn out and dem advantage. This is why there are SEVERAL polls at 7,8,9, 10, even 14 for Obama and why some are at 3, 4, and 5.
It's simply a difference of method. FACT? Obama is up 3% in the WORST case scenerio. Let me remind you. BUSH won the last election with a 2% lead going into election day. I'm feeling good.

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JCK:

Looking at the site again, it appears they polled some ballot questions in MA. They probably threw in the Pres poll as a freebie.

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Kile Thomson:

Obama news

Associated Press: The Democrat is launching TV ads in West Virginia and is considering pouring more money into Kentucky and going back on the air in North Dakota, Georgia.

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NW Patrick:

Wow Obama's funraising #'s for Sept. must have been out of the park. I can't wait to see.

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Hoosier:

Gee, Obama is cruising in Mass. Guess I can rest easy now. ; )

I'd be really interested in seeing less polling from solid states and seeing some numbers from states we haven't heard from in a while (KY, AR, LA)

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JCK:

Uh-oh, I see McCain declaring "I will fight and will win."

Candidate who are winning NEVER declare that they're going to win, at least not explicitly.

That sounds a lot like candidates during the primary saying "We're taking it to the convention," days before dropping out..

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The_Huntsman:

I could have told you this just from the number of Obama stickers on cars in Boston.

Seriously, why did they waste the money? We'd much rather have some good polls of WV, KY, or ND right now given that they're emerging as battlegrounds.

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muckinello:

A question: when do you think Chuck Hagel and Colin Powell will endorse Obama? Any effect on undecideds?

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JCK:

@The_Huntsman,

This poll was performed for the ballot initiative in MA, and sponsored by a Boston TV station.

The Senate/Pres polls were probably added on the ballot initiative questions.

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mysticlaker:

My personal take: I don't think endorsements move voters. They reinforce choices that are already made.

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DTM:

One potentially useful thing about polls in states like MA is that they provide data for the model used by Nate Silver at 538.

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rami:

Well Mccain can perharps win from behind there, he should spend lots in MA. Yes, he should use half his ressources in MA ^^

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mysticlaker:

Boom,

Are you buying McCain at 14 on intrade? If you really believe what you are writing, you should...1400 dollars to 10,000. 14,000 to 100,000.

That is easy money if you really belive in McCain...

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NW Patrick:

Wow internals must be AWFUL for McCain. Why would Obama spend money in NEW states if he was on the brink of "collapse" per Boom****? LOL This is fun.

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. — Leading in polls and exuding confidence, Democrat Barack Obama is edging into traditionally GOP states — now including West Virginia — as Republican John McCain looks to protect his turf less than three weeks before the election.

On the heels of the campaign's final debate, the Democrat is launching TV ads in West Virginia, which George W. Bush won four years ago and hadn't been on the list of target states until recently, according to two Democrats with knowledge of the strategy.

Obama lost West Virginia in the Democratic primary to Hillary Rodham Clinton as he struggled to win over working-class whites. But Democrats say the economic turmoil in the hard-hit state and TV ads Obama has been running in its neighbors have made West Virginia competitive. These Democrats spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid angering the campaign.

They say Obama's campaign also is considering pouring money into reliably Republican Kentucky and may yet return to the airwaves in North Dakota and Georgia. Those are two states Obama had tried to put in play over the summer, but he pulled out when they appeared out of reach.

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billwy:

Beginning to run adds in states like W. VA. and North Dakota does not make them a battleground. I'm not saying they aren't, but Obama has been running round the clock adds here in maryland...a very safe state for him. He's probably just trying to get McCain to waste some money and time.
I also see this though as a moderate risk. I have been waiting for McCain to call Obama on this, and he finally did last night, though not as forcefully as I woudl have. Obama pledged to take public financing as long as McCain did. He can't deny that. But when he found out that he could out fundraise McCain 3-1 he had different ideas. That and his change of heart on NAFTA, accompanied by his flip-flop on FISA lost Obama my vote.

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NW Patrick:

billwy apparently you've seen great progress with Republican strategy the past 8 years. Intelligent man...intelligent.

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Nhoj:

billwy: i imagine obama is running ads in maryland because of Virginia and maybe penn?

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Viperlord:

I want more polling of IN, WV, and MO dammit.

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NW Patrick:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/obama-ad-goes-after-mccai_n_135146.html

Wow it is awesome when you can run an add and just PLAY THE TAPE of your opponent. Great ad Obama!

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alankeyesisawesome:

Barack Hussein Obama is in big trouble now following last night's debate. The American people saw a confused, angry, and unpresidential Obama, whereas McCain came across as our next president.

I cheered when McCain brought up Joe the plumber, a man whose taxes are going to go up in the thousands, and who will be forced by Obama's policies to lay off every single employee he has.

Pathetic!

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jonny87:

Irish bookmaker pays out early on Obama victory

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081016/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_bookmaker_obama_odd

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fed:

This is the reason why Obama is spending money in GA
http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/earlyvotingstats08.htm

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billwy:

@Nhoj:
It's possible, though I am in the Baltimore market. The lower easter shore and southeastern PA have their own tv markets. I honestly just get the impresssion that Obama has so much money he doesn't know what to do with it.

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jonny87:

fed,

i hope he spends a bit more money on getting black males to the polls. currently black women are 22.7% of voters but black males only 13.7%. come one guys!

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NW Patrick:

alankeyesisawesome John SYDNEY McCain is in deep deep trouble. He has to turn the tables in 10 BG states where he barely leads or is flat our losing by as much as 10 points. Good luck with that Grandps!:)

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jonny87:

come on*

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alankeyesisawesome:

@NW Patrick:
Well, you are talking out of your @ss since the post debate polls haven't been released yet (we can't trust flash polling because they only count people who are home)...once the polls come out, you will see a tied race by sunday.

People are starting to realize that Bush and McCain are two different people, and McCain owned obama with his comment about running against bush 4 years ago.

Sounds like you libs are pretty desperate.

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1magine:

*******BREAKING NEWS**********

JOE THE PLUMBER - NOT A LICENSED PLUMBER.
JOE THE PLUMBER - RELATED TO KEATING 5 MASTERMIND
JOE THE PLUMBER - DONATES HEAVILY TO REP PARTY
JOE THE PLUMBER - NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE
JOE THE PLUMBER OWNS 3-5 BUSINESSES IN OH?

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Babbit:

alankeeyesisawesomeisdelusional: Seriously! What are you smoking?

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carl29:

billwy,

I will suspect that Obama is covering some media market around Maryland.

Imagine how important it's that "bleeding" that it has helped Obama in WV. Obama hadn't ran ads in WV. per se but the fact that some of his Virginia ads bled into WV, his numbers got pretty decent, at least better than what we thought.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

I wouldn't mind Obama putting a little money back into ND for three reasons.

One: It's a "cheap" place to campaign with a low population.

Two: A win there would provide a glaring symbol on the map of the change that is happening in this country.

Three: McCain is too focused on the East Coast to bother matching Obama there. It basically could be three easy electoral votes for Obama. Maybe Biden could do a quick stop there on his way to or from Colorado.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@1magine
Ummm, stop the smears against joe the plumber! Shame on you...

@Babbit
Just because I'm telling the truth, I must be smoking something?

Ick @ you.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

I think the consideration of putting money into KY is a rightful acknowledgment of a contagious diffusion pattern of support in the Eastern U.S. If a state neighbors states that are swinging toward Obama, then suddenly it is in play even if on the surface it appears safe. That's what happened in VA and NC and is now happening in WV, GA and ND.

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Viperlord:

Alan: There hasn't been one word of truth from your mouth (Or fingers?) Yet. You admit to lying about Obama, calling him ridiculous names, then try to claim moral high ground. Fail.

If you guys want any idea just how dumb this guy is, look up alan keyes. I think I could have taken him in a Senate race.

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CTPonix4BHObama:

How about we get polling in the new "battleground" states that are nows surrounded by states with Obama leads or competitiveness.

What a waste of money.

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mirrorball:

Joe's registered to vote. His name is just misspelled:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Purging_Joe_the_plumber.html


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OneAngryDwarf:

@Jordan

Actually my bet is that Obama is trying to turn the Senate seat there. The Dems have between 8-10 Senate seats that they are likely to pickup and two of those are in KY and GA. If Obama goes back into those states he helps by driving up voter turnout which should improve those candidates chances at victory.

If the Dems can get 10 seats this election they will have a filibuster proof majority without Lieberman. That in and of itself is a great reason to go back into KY and GA.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@Viperlord

As I mentioned, my religion allows me to do anything necessary to elect McCain president of the United States of America.

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NW Patrick:

alankeyesisawesome are you 12?

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Pat:

Since earlier this motning, Intrade keeps going down for Mccain. It is now 13.5. Does anyone know why? Is there news that we don't know about yet?

It can not just be the debate.

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@Viperlord:

Do you think Jon Swift was serious about eating children? Alankeyesisawesome is satire.

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Viperlord:

You sir, are a worthless piece of human ****. You and the rest of the religious far right can't win on anything but lies, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@NW Patrick

I am turning 26 on the 23rd...but I have more maturity than many in their 50s...especially those who vote Demo(n)crat.

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Viperlord:

I think he actually believes all this horse**** he's spewing, which is what makes him scary. Him and the rest of the Far Right.

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CTPonix4BHObama:

Joe the plumber must work on gold pipes. He did an interview outside his house today...his 2 bedroom, one floor house that he must've saved his 250,000$ yearly salary for 6 months to buy.

@alankeyesispsychotic
"you're gonna see a tied race by sunday..."

You're worse than boom on a bad day, with a hangover, and a hemmoroid.

If there's a punchline, let me in on it.

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NW Patrick:
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OneAngryDwarf:

Trolls are really out in force since the McCain campaign started to tank.

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Viperlord:

Sunday November 12th?

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jonny87:

ive no idea whats going on with the intrade. 19 days is a long time

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OneAngryDwarf:

Here is a really interesting blog. I think that this really speaks to the heart of the problem with the current political discourse.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-g-brant/when-it-all-falls-down_b_135108.html

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Viperlord:

So I guess according to alan, the large majority of military men voting for Obama are evil right? All those troops in Iraq who have contributed to Obama's campaign over McCain's by a 6-to-1 margin are evil right? Never mind their brave service to this country right?

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DTM:

Of COURSE alankeyesisawesome is a parody troll. In fact, the name alone is a huge tipoff.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@Viperlord
Stop making up facts...does not make you look credible at all.

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Babbit:

Satire, oh okay now I get it. Well then hahaha!

For a minute there I thought there was actually a real person who believes that McCain won the debate and/or is poised to win the election. I can see how that would make a good joke though. Good one alankeyesisawesome. ^_^

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Boris_Dieter:

DON'T BE BAITED BY ALANKEYSISAWESOME:

Battleground states are fine. Of course, the national numbers are going to tighten. Don't bother to fight with GOP knuckleheads and conservative nutcases. Get outta the blogosphere and start working up upping the Democratic congressional win, since the GOP's operatives will do anything short of burning down the house to prevent any Obama successes as a president. Get outta here. Call; donate money; get on a phone bank team; go to Ohio and fight the GOP/fascist voter suppression efforts; do anything other than screwing around here. Bye for now; I've got phone calling. Unfortunately, I'm limited in movement, so the best I can do is send money and do phone calls.

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Thatcher:

Public Policy Polling found a West Virginia sample and will be in the field within the next week!

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2008/10/west-virginia-update.html

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timontheleft:

@OneAngryDwarf

Interesting post; thanks.

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axe2grind:

It's great Obama is going after more states, McClueless doesn't have the money or people to counter attack. McClueless is still advertising here in Iowa, and he is at least 15 points down in every state poll. If he thinks he can win here, he's crazy. In the five years I've lived in my conservative suburban neighborhood, there have never been yard signs for a Democrat, this year there are.

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Thatcher:

axe2grind -

I know! I live here in Des Moines and I can't believe the number of McCain commercials ... glad he's spending money here ... HAHAHAHA

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Hoosier:

McSlime is not on the air here in Northern Indiana. Yet, Obama is on air constantly. I have never seen so many yard signs for a presidential candidate in my life! The ratio of Obama signs to McSlime must be 8:1.

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Basil:

@alan keyes

OK, you're 26 going on 50, but do you have more knowledge than the electoral college?

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Viperlord:

Making up facts? Sorry, but I was totally correct you lying ****bag. Obama has received 4 times the contribution from the military overall than McSame has, and 6 times the contributions from troops in Iraq. Deny it all you like you pathetic propaganda machine, but that's a statistical fact.

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Joe the Plumber:

I saw a tool at Wallstreetjournal.com, called Electoral Compass, where you can discover your position in the political landscape. Maybe helpful for the 70% percent Democrats in Massachusets ;)

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