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NC: Obama 51, McCain 44 (PPP-10/18-19)

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Public Policy Polling (D)
10/18-19/08; 1,200 LV, 2.8%
Mode: IVR

North Carolina
Obama 51, McCain 44, Barr 2
Sen: Hagan (D) 49, Dole (R-i) 42, Cole (L) 4

 

Comments
alankeyesisawesome:

Don't worry, once word gets out that Obama is a socialist, it will be flipped.

Country first!!! McCain/Palin 2008!

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C.S.Strowbridge:

Ummm.... Too good to be true?

I'm saying that a lot lately.

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Atomique:

LOL, try telling that to an actual socialist. NC is going blue this year.

Sen. McCain: Thanks for picking Palin. Best thing anyone ever did for the Democratic Party!

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1magine:

Do not get excited. This thing is far from over. Keep at it.

VETERANS FOR OBAMA

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mrzookie:

SUSA - Virginia: O-51 M-45
In an election for President of the United States in Virginia today, 10/20/08, two weeks till votes are counted, Democrat Barack Obama defeats Republican John McCain 51% to 45%, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted for WDBJ-TV Roanoke, WJLA-TV Washington DC, WTVR-TV Richmond, and WJHL-TV Tri-Cities. Compared to an identical SurveyUSA poll two weeks ago, McCain has gained 2 points, Obama has lost 2 points. Obama had led by 10, now by 6. There is movement among men, where Obama had led by 11 but where today McCain leads by 3; among Moderates, where Obama had led by 32 but now leads by 18; and among those who have not graduated from college, where Obama had led by 7, now trails by 2. There is movement to McCain in the Shenandoah and in Central VA. Details are available on the interactive tracking graphs , a SurveyUSA exclusive.

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laguna_b:

@alankeyesisanidiot

Yeah......right! LOL! Man, it must be hard for you to come here watching the tidal wave and in denial.....but then you bought the WMD lies so what else is new?

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Atomique:

Indeed, now is not the time for complacency. We need to keep donating and keep volunteering to drive that last spear into the dying elephant and elect Barack Obama to the presidency. Their ground game pales in comparison to ours, and if we want to keep it that way, as Obama says, we can't get too cocky.

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jamesia:

Wow, and this is fresh, too.

Interesting tid bit regarding the McCain campaign's request of donations from... the Russian government:
http://www.un.int/russia/new/MainRoot/docs/press/201008eprel.htm

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boomshak:

Shouldn't this say: "PPP(D)"

I believe PPP is a Democratic Pollster and should be posted as such.

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laguna_b:

@mrzookie

Be interesting the effcts that the Colin Powell endorsement will have on the conservative and moderate military folks there....

If my life was to be put on the line I sure wouldn't want hair trigger McCain or "I can see Russia" Palin making the decisions....thank you Colin!

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MDB1974:

Socialist...hmm...Obama a socialist. That sounds familiar...seems like Obama is the most prominent AA since MLK...didn't angry white conservatives say he was a communist.


Seriously guys, at least come up with something original. To bad J Edgar is not around anymore. He may be able to help you come up with something new.

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BrookLynda:

alankeysisawesome:
"Don't worry once word gets out Obama is a socialist, it will be flipped"

Yeah, cuz nobody is saying that! LOL!

Meanwhile, the GOP wants to nationalize all the banks!

Ha! Fail.

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DTM:

Obama has gotten good numbers in NC from PPP before, so this is not exactly a surprise.

It also isn't that surprising North Carolina would be a good state for Obama, although if true that means McCain really is looking at a terrible electoral map.

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jamesia:

There are two different PPP pollsters. One is partisan, one is not.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@laguna_b

Had we not invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein (not Barack HUSSEIN Obama, lol) would have been allowed to continuously develop their advanced nuclear program and Tel Aviv would have been a pile of rubble today! Hussein wanted to destroy Israel, so if you did not support the invasion of Iraq, you were anti-semetic. I am not anti-semetic.

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jamesia:

BrookLynda:

I know, right?

The GOP wants to nationalize an entire industry... Obama wants to give a middle class tax cut. It's clear which one is socialist to me!

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jatchwa:

So, the millions of Jews -- like me -- who vote Democratic election after election after election after election after election after election after election after election after election are anti-Semites?

Wow, I had no idea. My rabbi is going to be pissed.

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ThatMarvelousApe:

TIGHTENING POLLS!

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1magine:

My God - can you imagine if Sydney had picked Romney. He would have controlled the entire economy debate over the last several weeks.

In the end this is all about Executive ability. Who will be the best executive. Well? Who has run the best campaign for the last 2 years? Who has made the best of their 2 most important decisions as an executive VP and Economic message? Who?

Even if you where a fan of Sydney - you have to admit BO has run the best campaign in history. For goodness sake he beat the Clinton Machine. Who did Sydney beat? Gulianni didn' show up, and Mr. Hollywood only pretended to show up. Romney was soundly rejected for a lifetime of center left politics, and Huckabee - well, I don't know why he was so soundly rejected - maybe outside the south, even Reps didn't think a southern preacher could be elected President.

Sydney finished the Primary short of cash. BO had plenty to spend. BO built grass level support and internet fund raising - millions of small donors. Brilliant marketing - by selling merchandise, rather than giving it away - made people feel like the had a stake in the outcome. GOTV and phone bank organization. Not to mention the level of vetting and discipline within the campaign has never been seen before. No wonder the Dallas Star has endorsed the first Dem since LBJ.

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Trosen:

jamesia, I am highly dubious of that Russian "web site."

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jamesugw:

Alankeyesisawesome -
I'm not anti-semitic - my wife is an Israeli. And what you've just posted is even more of a pile of rubbish than your usual posts - thus, I had to respond. The majority of Israelis felt uncomfortable with the Iraqi war - a direct consequence of which has been the upgrading of Iranian status in the region. On the basis of this comment alone, I declare you a fool.

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jonny87:

Survey USA usually poll those 'already voted', why not for VA????

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I know it's tempting, but please don't feed the trolls. Giving that validation just makes them whinier and more annoying. If you ignore them, they'll go find some other site to infest.

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Froggy:

This is great news! For JOHN McCAIN!!!

As he said again yesterday, JOHN McCAIN relishes being the underdog. He loves being behind in the race. With this he's even more behind and even underdoggier! JOHN McCAIN has his opponents right where he wants them!!!

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ThatMarvelousApe:

"My God - can you imagine if Sydney had picked Romney. He would have controlled the entire economy debate over the last several weeks."

Uh... no.

Not only did Romney have the highest unfavorables of any potential VP pick (Dem or Rep), he was also the embodiment of the exact sort of corporate culture that average Americans are rejecting. A better choice for McCain would have been Rob Portman, who both actually knows the economy and doesn't come off as some Wall Street hack.

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Oldy75:

Boom,

NC doesn't matter since Rass(R) has Obama up 10 points in Virgina. McCain has no credible route to the White House without Virgina(Ohio, Florida, Colorado and Missouri won't matter either, though Obama will likely win them all).

Have a Nice Day! :)

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mrzookie:

@laguna_b:

"Be interesting the effcts that the Colin Powell endorsement will have on the conservative and moderate military folks there...."

I'm not a big Powell fan as I believe he's one of the very few people who actually could have prevented the war in Iraq, but didn't. That being said, I agree with your drift - he's still very well respected in the military, and his endorsement will play well in VA.

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Trosen:

jamesia, I stand corrected. That is indeed from the UN official site and the Russian member nation directory. Interesting.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@jamesugw

Well, I am sorry you are married to an turncoat & enemy of the Jewish people. The vast majority of orthodox jews in Israel supported the invasion of Iraq, as did most of America. As Christian Americans, we feel a special bond towards Israel and neither ourselves nor Israel should be second guessed.

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jamesia:

Trosen:

The site is from the United Nations.

Try www.un.int ... That's the base URL for the link I posted. It's the United Nations.

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1magine:

I don't get why all these guys are polling during the w/e when the candidates (both sides) are holding large rallies. I hope they are polling in the evening after 6pm.

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muckinello:

@alan:
Saddam DID NOT have a nuclear program... I mean.. where you alive and functioning during the whole WMD debacle?
He was using the whole WMD story for internal politics and to cling to power.
But of course, since you drank the Bush kool-aid, objectivity goes out the window.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@jatchwa
Well, I don't know your rabbi, but I do know that if you are Jewish and vote democrat, you are voting against your own interest. Us Christians have the same God as the Jews do (only a savior is missing), but it's important to know that GOD IS PISSED at the democrat policies out there.

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Oldy75:

Knowing Alan Keyes he probably did more than drink the Kool-Aid if you know what I mean. Bada Bing

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muckinello:

@froggie
Is the underdog the one under when doing the doggie style? If that so, the underdog is actually the one being fu#&*d!
Now I see how he likes being the "underdog"

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jonny87:

From ambinder

'Privately, the McCain campaign believes that McCain can still win the electoral college if he comes within two or three points of Obama in the popular vote'

...not sure if im buying that

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1magine:

Has anyone seen this: http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081020/BREAK/810200299

O+7 in NH

Kerry + NH, IA, NM & CO = 273

VA, NC, FL, OH, MO, NV are all + BO and all Uneccessary for a win. 2 weeks and it looks good.

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PortlandRocks:

boomshak what does PPP being a dem pollster have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING after RASMUSSEN says Obama's up 10 in VA? Do you just spew **** for the sake of it? So the DEM pollster shows a closer race than RAS! WOW! Your point?

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alankeyesisawesome:

@muckinello

How would you know...my 2nd cousin's husband served in the marine corps and he went into Iraq. He said that there were WMDs that saddam was developed. However, this was classified, so it will likely not be known right away...maybe this story will develop in 2009.

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Rollin08:

Wow!

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jamesugw:

alanwhoeverisawesome -
You're funny! Are you Sarah Palin in disguise?

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KipTin:

Look above... It says "Public Policy Polling (D)"... "D" for Democrat. RCP does not include PPP in their averages, but they do post their surveys.

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North Carolina......

2004 polls 10/20/2004 -- Bush +3%
2004 election -- Bush +12.4
2008 polls 10/20/2008 -- Obama +1.3

Source: http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Margins/Oct20-margins.html

Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_mccain_vs_obama-334.html

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Trosen:

I voted early today.. turnout is huge in south FL, especially with AAs..

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbearlyvote1020pnoct20,0,7110437.story

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M2:

Does this put NC into the blue? It's been walking toward Obama for a few weeks and, as we've seen in other states, it may have hit a tipping point. Hopefully we get a few more NC polls in the next few days that help us put this number in context.

Yet this is part of a larger math problem for the McCain campaign. Take a look at the larger Pollster map. Obama's holding all of the Kerry 2004 states. He's also got five Bush 2004 states (and that alone gives him a comfortable electoral win). On top of that, all seven swing states are Bush 2004 states.

Assuming Iowa and New Mexico are beyond McCain's reach (because they are), that leaves McCain fighting 10 last stands. All right, maybe McCain figures he can't devote any resources to MT and ND because he's got 8 other states (NC, VA, OH, IN, FL, MO, CO, NV), that cost him the presidency if he loses any one of them. I'm not even counting WV and GA as trouble spots for McCain, and each could be on Election Day.

This sure looks like an endgame.

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laguna_b:

@alankeyesisanidiot

All you religious nuts who make up your own gods then claim they made you and justify your positions...radical Islamists, Christians and Jews along with radical Hindus etc all the same garbage, should all be armed and put into a colliseum to have at it...the world would be a much better place...

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mirrorball:

Trosen: Politico confirmed the Russian story.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCain_camp_hits_up_Russian_ambassador.html?showall

Since the letter didn't have the Russian ambassador's formal title, I'm guessing there was some weird clerical error. Address books crossed paths or something.

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jamesugw:

KipTin:
Look above... It says "Public Policy Polling (D)"... "D" for Democrat. RCP does not include PPP in their averages, but they do post their surveys.

Thank God! We wouldn't want RCP to be getting all partisan, would we?

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PortlandRocks:

alankeyesisawesome god only pisses on red states with tornado after tornado and hurricane after hurricane. Question? Why does God hate red states? LOL

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muckinello:

@alan
He had biological and chemical weapons, that he also used on his own people. But after the 1st gulf war, after the inspections, the no fly-zone etc. etc. his capability was all but gone.
you can find WMD's on most labs nowadays but saying that if he was in power Tel-aviv was a pile of rubble today means getting one's news from Marvel Comics

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Connor:

The national polls are tightening but the battle grounds look great...I don't get it.

NATE SILVERZZ!!! I HAZZ A QUERSTION!!!!

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KipTin:

OK... PortlandRocks... this is a thread about the PPP (D) "North Carolina" poll and you are invoking the Rasmussen "Virginia" poll as an argument for PPP!!!

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alankeyesisawesome:

@PortlandRocks

California is the one with the earthquakes...what about that?

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

Yea if you go by the natural disaster theory, God isn't exactly on Texas' side this year.

Two significant hurricanes, and here in the Austin area we've only had just over 10 inches of rain for the year.

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sunnymi:

IBD/TIPP
Obama - 46.6%
McCain - 41.5%
Undecided - 11.9%


Weird Numbers from this poll:
1. McCain still leads the 18-24 age group 42-42 on this poll
2. McCain and Obama are tied at 45-45 in the South

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ThatMarvelousApe:

"The national polls are tightening but the battle grounds look great...I don't get it."

First of all, the national polls aren't really tightened. Obama gained in most of today's trackers.

Second, it is likely that noncompetitive states reflect conservative likely voter models but more competitive states reflect RV models.

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mysticlaker:

kiptin - I'm sorry but you are delusional. Obama underperformed the polls in NC during the primaries. If anything, this may be under performing his support.

kip, how do you see mccain winning this election? I am curious.

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NHBlue:

@Alan Keyes:

My cousin told me that God told him that you, Alan, were gay.

Proof!

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sunnymi:


On the IBD/TIPP numbers, I meant to say McCain leads the 18-24 age group 52-42

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DecaturMark:

Well RCP said that starting Oct 11 that they would not include partisan polls in their daily average. But I'm curious why they would include a PPP (D) poll of WV yesterday? Is it because McCain was leading in that poll and wanted to drive the polling toward McCain. One has to wonder.

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RaleighNC:

Democrats are 45% of registered voters in NC. Republicans 33%. Indies/Unaffiliated 22%. This poll has it 48/37/15. Granted, it may be nuance since this democrat polling firm has Indy/UA voters going for Obama by a wide margin, but still if the sampling is bad the results tend to be bad.

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Thatcher:

Here's a note about early/absentee turnout in NC:

169,107 Democrats
90,657 Republicans
49,776 Unaffiliated
54 Libertarian
309,594 Total

NC has new totals up for turnout around 340,000 ... these were from data from the end of last week.

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M2:

God is apolitical, but He likes playing cruel jokes on those who insist otherwise. Told me Himself. For instance, He's reincarnated Ronald Reagan as Daniel Ortega's granddaughter. The Ayatollah Khomeni has come back as a young, Jewish lesbian currently attending Smith College.

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KipTin:

Look closer and you will find that the PPP poll is listed but is NOT averaged.

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Stonecreek:

What's going on with Gallup LV traditional and LV expanded? The LV traditional had previously been reported as a SMALLER number than the LV expanded. This is to be expected, since the LV expanded is simply those who self-report their intention to vote. However, in the last three Gallup daily trackers, the LV expanded is a smaller number than the LV traditional. If this is correct, and Obama's lead in the LV expanded is substantially greater than the LV traditional, then it would seem to indicate a lot of McCain RV's who simply don't intend to vote. Is this the case; if not, what other explanation do you see?

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IndependentThinker:

Guys, kipTin is a very angry old woman living in a nursing room who is disappointed that Hillary didn't win the primaries.She still can't get over it so don't pay attention to her, leave her ALONE
It would be a waste of time an energy to go after her

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wotan:

@alankeyesisawesome: So, your second cousin's husband was in Iraq and....what? He saw the WMDs up close? He heard about it from a goatherd? There were the WMDs lying in an open souk in Fallujah? Is seeing WMDs from Iraq anything like seeing Russia from Alaska? And if he really is cleared to have classified information, why is he passing it on to a second cousin-in-law with a big mouth? Methinks you are very gullible.

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mysticlaker:

wrong tipp numbers posted above:

47-41 will be the rounding...

October 20 41.4% 46.7% 11.9% +5.3 Obama

http://www.tipponline.com/

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DTM:

@jonny87

From what we know right now, the exact opposite is the case: the distribution of votes appears to be such that even if Obama lost by 1-2 points nationally, he might still win in the electoral college (and given that Kerry needed to swing something like 60,000 votes in Ohio to pull that off, and Obama appears to have locked down the Kerry states PLUS Iowa and NM AND put more Bush states in play, that really shouldn't be a surprise).

That said, maybe the hidden premise of the person talking to Ambinder was that if the national gap closed to two or three points on Election Day, it would happen to all come in the exact few states where McCain would need those votes to reverse this dynamic. You can judge for yourself if that is realistic.

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OneAngryDwarf:

@wotan

Yeah I'm calling BS on that as well. Jarheads in the field like that never get a security clearance unless they are working intel. It is just too expensive to do and why bother.

Besides why would Bush and Cheney be sitting on that information if they had it? They like to look stupid? I've known plenty of people who've been to Iraq a great many of them are pretty disillusioned with what went on these last eight years. By saying that we found what we were looking for (WMD's) you at the very least validate what our service men/women have been fighting for over there. Simply no reason to not let that information see the light of day.

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Eternal:

@ Kip & Boom,

You all are right, these polls are flawed McSlime is really ahead, everywhere!


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sunnymi:


@RaleighNC, I once asked the PPP pollster about this. They hold the demographics fixed as per the census estimates and let the party IDs fall where they may. They go by what people identify themselves as. People do not bother to change their registration each time they decide to change their vote.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@wotan
Well, first of all, Democrats have blown the whole Russia from Alaska statement out of proportion. Palin never said that she saw Russia from Alaska, only that it was possible to see it from Alaska.

And as for that Iraq WMDs thing, I've revealed too much already.

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jonny87:

@DTM

you always take stuff like this with a pinch of salt. i find it hard to believe that mccain could trail a few points nationally and still keep hold of CO and VA

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Viperlord:

Woo, good news if accurate. NC might just go blue, though that certainly isn't necessary, it would add nicely to the victory.

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KipTin:

Well... IndependentThinker has now resorted to cyberstalking me on the poll threads with the same spam for no reason at all.

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fed:

LOL that letter took so long because it had to go through Alaska. What the hell is McCains campaign thinking about. That is ERRATIC

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Eternal:

LOL @ Alan,

"I've revealed too much already"

Kinda like the special secret Putin observation station in Alaska to see when he "rears his head and comes into airspace of the United States Of America"


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OneAngryDwarf:

@alankeyisadumbass

You are an idiot poser. I know at least 3 people with a TSSCI security clearance and not a single one of them would pull what you just pulled moron.

Don't go around "pretending" to be something that you are not. Ooh "I've said too much," is the same thing as saying I never had any information to begin with. You are a dolt who has probably never even been in the same room as anyone with classified information. Ever been to a Tech School in the military where they teach you about using your security clearance? Not if you last answer was any sort of indication.

Fail... Big Fail...

You are a disgrace to the hard working, honorable service men and women of this country. Pathetic, just pathetic.

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KipTin:

FYI... Eternal... I never claimed ANY polls were flawed. Quit making false accusations. And why the ignorant attack anyway?

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Hoosier:

@alankeyesisanidiot:

"GOD IS PISSED at the democrat policies out there."


So, God is now talking to you directly about American politics, huh? Intersting. You know, they have medications now that make the voices in your head go away.

I hope GOP trolls like alan are mixing up big vats of red Kool-Aid for election night. I know I'm going to be celebrating the return of America to its rightful place as "The Shining City on a Hill" (yes, I know that is a Reagan quote) instead of the Bush/Cheney Orwellian nightmare it has become.

After all, real Americans beat the Fascits back in 1945 and we'll beat McSlime and Barbie in 2008!!


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DTM:

@jonny87

That does seem to be the problem, and in fact Colorado and Virginia are the two most likely states where Obama might win the election even if he was down 1-2 points nationally.

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Viperlord:

You know, I drink red kool-aid, and yet, apparently, I don't. Weirdness.

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Babbit:

@alankeyesisawesome...

I'm surprised to see (after being away for several days) that you have kept up the 'McCain is winning' joke this long. You are one dedicated comedian. ;)

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PortlandRocks:

Tar Heel early vote going Carolina blue?
Posted: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:06 PM by Carrie Dann

From NBC's Carrie Dann
Here's your early-vote snapshot of the day, courtesy of the meticulously up-to-date records of the North Carolina elections board.

As of this morning, over 340,000 North Carolinians have cast general election ballots, with the vast majority taking advantage of the state's early in-person absentee voting, dubbed "One Stop" by Tar Heels.

Over six million state residents are registered to vote in North Carolina, one of the nation's newest political battlegrounds.

Of 270,000 in-person voters since "One Stop" opened last Thursday, over 60% were registered Democrats, compared to only 20% Republicans. (The remainder: mostly unaffiliated voters, who make up about 20% of the state's electorate.)

Of the 66,000 civilians who have mailed in absentee ballots, Republicans have outnumbered Democrats by a margin of about 2-1.

Still, registered Democrats make up 55% of those who have already cast votes for the North Carolina general election, while registered Republicans account for less than one in three ballots already cast.

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Hoosier:

@alankeyesisadouche:

"And as for that Iraq WMDs thing, I've revealed too much already."

ROTFL!!!! First, God is speaking directly to you and now you're privy to military secrets???

Please, please keep posting here. You are more entertaining than Sarah Palin on Jeopardy!!!

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a celebrity among us, the President for Life of the Tinfoil Hat Society!!!!!

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NHBlue:

Re: Alan Keyes

I think it's going to be hard debating someone who knows the Mind of God. How do you argue with omniscience? So, if the deity is on McCain's side, what's the use of us fallible mortals bothering to vote?

But I wonder, Alan. What if Obama wins in spite of the Voices? What do you then? I bet when you ran for president (remember?) you were sure God was going to let you win. And He didn't. He picked Clinton.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

I literally drank red kool aid last night with some friends who are also Obama supporters. The irony was not lost on me.

Neither is the absurdity of the GOP thinking they can repeat the big lie of "Obama is a _______" over and over again and then expect over 50% of Americans to actually think it's true.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

If God is supporting the more openly Christian candidate then he would support Obama. Not that he does or that it matters...

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Boris_Dieter:

EVERYONE!!! Why are you allowing alankeysisawesome bait you? He doesn't believe any of the crap he's saying. He just enjoys baiting you all. He's a very clever fraud, and he even fakes mis-spellings (e.g., semetic, when he knows it's semitic). Go out and work for Obama and quit wasting time here.

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OneAngryDwarf:

@Boris

But I'm on my lunch break, can't I have a break...

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jonny87:

'meticulously up-to-date records of the North Carolina elections board'

where???? ive scanned the website to no avail.

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Viperlord:

Alan Keyes is pathetic, without a doubt. And NHBlue has a point, apparently God picked Clinton, the evil Democrat.

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Boris_Dieter:

@oneangrydwarf

:-) as they say. Your posts are great. You have my permission to keep hammering away.

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McSame/Falin:

***BREAKING NEWS****

Big Break for the GOP today

Donald Rumsfeld just Endorsed John McCain

LMAO!!

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alankeyesisawesome:

Well, I don't meet with my 2nd cousin's husband often since he is not a close relative, but glad to see that Democrats are so skeptical about anything other than statements which meet their own personal ambitions. In this case, it is the ambition to LOSE the war in Iraq and to turn America into a socialist nightmare. You democrats ought to the be the ones who are ashamed of degrading our men and women in uniform, because given the opportunity of supporting someone who was qualified by being a POW for 5 years, or someone who was a community organizer, you decide to pick the community organizer. And an elitist to boot. I really think you libs should go back to drinking your lattes and KEEP OUT of the American political process. Absolutely Pathetic.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

So you can't call someone a racist just because they support McCain over Obama (which I agree you can't) but you can say that someone who chooses to support Obama over McCain is "degrading our men and women in uniform?" That's fresh dude.

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Viperlord:

Anyway, ignoring the troll, all's looking well for a Obama victory.

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UpstateProgressive:

McCain hasn't led in an NC poll since 10/8. His best has been a tie in a Fox/Ras poll (10/12).

Based on this, the pollster.com composite is 49.4-46.1 Obama. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that Obama has a steady but consistent lead in NC. And if the PPP poll is right, then Obama might be starting to pull away. The next two weeks will tell.

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zotz:

Viperlord-
I think alankeyesisawesome is a Dem with a facetious sense of humor.

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Viperlord:

Especially considering that Obama has gotten more in contributions from the military than McCain last time I checked.... The top 2 candidates for the military in the primary at least were Paul and Obama. Both anti-war. Oh noes.

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Thatcher:

jonny87 -

http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/

Link directly to the Excel spreadsheet to compile your numbers from:

ftp://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/enrs/absentee11xx04xx2008_Stats.xls

Here was my post from earlier:

169,107 Democrats
90,657 Republicans
49,776 Unaffiliated
54 Libertarian
309,594 Total

NC has new totals up for turnout around 340,000 ... these were from data from the end of last week.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

AKiA said: "You democrats ought to the be the ones who are ashamed of degrading our men and women in uniform, because given the opportunity of supporting someone who was qualified by being a POW for 5 years, or someone who was a community organizer, you decide to pick the community organizer."

Here's the other extreme's equivalent statement:

"You Republicans ought to the be the ones who are ashamed of degrading those who fought for Civil Rights, because given the opportunity of supporting someone who was qualified by being the first African-American nominee for president, or someone who is just another old white guy, you decide to pick the old white guy."

I'll let the ridiculousness of that speak for itself.

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original_goodfella:

Obama ahead in NC? I guess they didn't call the insane woman who wouldn't shake Obama's hand in the diner? After all, she knows "what them other folks are thinking."

God, I can't wait for all these dopes to be gone. Palin, "He's a Arab" lady, Sam the non-Plumber, even McCain I'm sick of, and I used to really like the guy.

Get lost, hate-filled America, will ya?

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Viperlord:

I don't think so, he has displayed no sense of humor I can detect.

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Viperlord:

I don't think so, he has displayed no sense of humor I can detect.

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alankeyesisawesome:

BTW, I never said that my 2nd cousin's husband had a security clearance himself...he doesn't...but I'm sure he heard it through the Grapevine, and it definitely is classified information...Just to clarify.

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MNLatteLiberal:

alankeysisawesome,
Is your second cousin's husband available to perform at weddings and bar-mitzvots? We need some light and mindless entertainment at upcoming mitzvot of briz and would like to hire you both for a few hours. We will arrange transportation, and money is no object. Just name your price.

Can you play Jesus? (not necessary, but a plus)
Your cousin's second husband might be called to do some nudity, but I assure you, it'll be tasteful and artistic and will further the plot.

Oh, and post your address where we can send the limo. TIA.

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OneAngryDwarf:

@Boris

No I'm over it now. Dude has obviously never served his country and it is just throwing away my time on someone who will never figure out his own idiocy.

Way to put it all in perspective. Now I must resume making money. Have a good one.

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MNLatteLiberal:

@1Angry,
you asked in an earlier thread (MN, afair) about the ground game here. Well, I can give you first hand perspective, if you want.

Yesterday, about 50-70 ppl showed up in our local MN CD6 office in a town of about 50,000 with the one of the highest avg per capita income in the state to door knock. My wife and I hit about 150 homes of essentially undecideds and independents only. The results are very blue: great news for Obama and Tinklenberg, and not as good for Franken.

The bitter and angry campaign from Coleman and esp from RNSC made a couple of misleading and downright false claims about Al that seem to be working, at least in part. We counter them, educate the folks, since we know Al personally. In "MN nice" some average Joes have a tough time separating fact from fiction, literature from reality.

It's a climb, but the polls are essentially tied, which is very encouraging since a) Coleman is an incoumbent and ought to be ahead and b) Obama's coattails - in a blowout/huge turnout expected, that will benefit Franken.
Thus far, the clear beneficiary of the tone of the campaigns is the independent Dean Barkley, who was appointed by J. Ventura to serve out the rest of Wellstone term. Barkley is polling in high teens as the result of all the noise.

Hillary is here tomorrow to campaign for us; she will be a huge draw.

We are keeping the hope alive :)

~ Latte

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OneAngryDwarf:

@MN

That is fantastic to hear. I wish I was there pounding the pavement for Franken. I love his stuff and I'm sure that the ads must be really vile if people are that turned off.

I'll have to check youtube and see what wonderful smears they are coming up with these days. Oh well lets keep those fingers crossed and that ground game working. It would be nice to see a straight D report card this year in MN.

BTW are there any new Tinklenberg ads yet showing off the fascist stylings of Mrs. Bachmann?

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Viperlord:

http://www.electoralcompass.com/ Political quiz because I am itching for discussion. I'm a social progressive and economically, I'm dead center.

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john11854:

@ alankeyesisawesome:

"... it's important to know that GOD IS PISSED at the democrat policies out there."

I'm curious...what would you say are the specific Democratic policies God is pissed at?

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BethinNC:

This seems a little bit optimistic, but I think Obama is doing very well here in NC. I'm in the Triangle, and my husband and I have been knocking on doors for the Obama campaign. We were both previously registered Republicans, and have never felt compelled to campaign for anyone.
We are so ready for change, and being part of this campaign as volunteers has been exciting. We've gotten to converse with so many African Americans that are excited to vote for the first time, or to have the opportunity to vote for Obama in general. We've talked w/ older voters who never thought they'd vote for an African American. We see the enthusiasm at the local universities and we hope that there will be a huge turnout among college students.
My husband and I both voted early, and we're hoping to knock on more doors or make phone calls again this weekend.
I hope that NC can deliver for Obama; if not, at the very least we've forced McCain/Palin to use up their resources (time and money) on defending a state they never, ever thought they'd have to defend.

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CTPonix4BHObama:

@alankeyessucksballs

So how often does god actually "talk" to you about 'democrat' values?

Mite wanna get that checked out.

btw, are u 15? talkin about classified information and such...like a kid braggin about his older brother.

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thisniss:

For the record:

PPP may be a (D) firm, but they are also an (NC) firm - by which I mean the company is itself North Carolina based. They had the best "score" for their polling of the NC primaries (they certainly got closer than any of the other national pollsters). Not only did they get the Presidential race correct, and get closer on the margin than anyone else, but PPP was able to accurately call every NC primary race with their April/May polling. So diss away, but don't act all shocked when it turns out they nailed it.

As far as party ID goes: Since PPP does not hold to fixed Party ID sampling, but rather lets voters self-identify and takes what they get, what usually ends up happening in these polls is that you see the "true" party of more of NC's "unaffiliated" voters. The registration of NC voters breaks down thus: 45.4% Dem, 32.4% Rep, 22% Unaffiliated. In surveying, you get more people claiming to be Dems and Reps, and fewer calling themselves "Independents." You also get a few cross-overs in both directions from the parties, but most of that difference in expressed Party ID comes from unaffiliated voters aligning with a party in the poll.

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KipTin:

Thanks for the link... Viperlord. Really interesting.

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mj1:

Election's in 2 weeks. This polling fun is almost over. What are we all going to do with ourselves?

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Lompe:

After 4 days of early voting in NC:

Total number of votes cast(20.10): 691,507
That is 19,8% of all the votes cast in 2004.

White voters: 60,75
Black voters: 35,6
Other: 3,7

22% of registered voters are black
In 2004 20,2% of all voters were black.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/earlyvotingstats08.htm

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Obama008:

What the **** is with this socialist talk. Obama is not a socialist.

Here are the facts.

The US has many forms of Socialism, as does EVERY NATION IN THE WORLD.

Guess what when you rise or lower taxes, money is going to get moved around and spread out more. ;D Thats not Socialism that just how taxing works.

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