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NH: Obama 49, McCain 37 (SRBI-9/25-20)

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Saint Anselm College / SRBI
9/25-20/08; 823 LV, 3.5%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews

New Hampshire
Obama 49, McCain 37

 

Comments
Commander_King:

Seems Obama has locked down New Hampshire pretty good.

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Trosen:

One or two more NH polls anything close to this and it goes light blue. Palin didn't do the campaign any favors with her "If I could be like Dick (Cheney)" line last night. NH folks are very serious about Consitutionality.

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NYCeconomist:

NH could still be hairy, but this is yet another key state where Obama is now a clear favorite. McCain is simply fighting on too many fronts right now, he needs to generate a significant change in the national numbers. Keep in mind, early voting is happening in OH now with Obama in his strongest position so far.

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Greg_Lang:

Take a look at the internals of this poll. It shows 41 percent were strongly or somewhat influenced by Palin being the VP pick. This debate will have to be factored in over the next week to understand where NH is going also 11 percent of undecideds is quite high with one month to go. This is good news for Obama but NH is still very much in play in my mind.

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adocarbog:

McCain now needs to take that SUSA poll from MN showing him up by 1% (based on McCain winning the youth vote LOL) print it out and go sit in the corner and cry until Nov 4th because at his age he now realizes he will never be the POTUS.

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Guailo:

New Rasmussen Poll has Obama up by 10 pts in NH...

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IndependentThinker:

this polls is hardly an outlier cause it confirms the just-released Ras poll of NH showing +10 for Obama

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angrytoxicologist:

Combined with the Ras NH poll (O +10) it looks like the EC tie possibility is nil. MN may not seem as safe as before with the SUSA poll. Either it or the CNN/Time poll is off. Given the strange age flip in the SUSA, I'd say the CNN is more reliable, but it's not a clear indication it's wrong, only strange looking. It's looking increasingly like the big swingers (OH, FL) could be lost at this point and not make a difference.

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vmval1:

I'm still very worried about MN

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Viperlord:

Good job Obama campaign, another key state within your grasp. The map is looking very good right now.

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Cephme:

The one two punch of St. As and Rasmussen this AM is quite a surprise, but they confirm each other. Things seem to have swung quite strongly in the past week or so in NH. Don't get too excited though there is still plenty of time for them to swing back. However, time now appears to truly be on Obama's side.

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Trosen:

NYC, excellent point about OH. I would be interested to see demographics about who typically votes early. I've read some studies where it's mostly older voters, but down here in South FL it's typically younger voters and 30-something family types who vote early. I'd venture to guess that's because a lot of older voters stick with the Election Day tradition. But no doubt with the latest OH polls, the fact that early voting has started has to help Obama.

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Unbiased08:

I think this officially closes the door on John Kerry's 252 electoral votes. I know that McCain is still playing for PA, MN and WI, and I know a surveyusa poll showed mccain +1 in MN this morning...But that MN poll is kind of like a recent Missouri poll showing Obama +1. Obama is not going to win Missouri, and McCain is not going to win MN. If a few more polls start showing McCain ahead in MN, then maybe that reasoning will change, but for now, the door is closed on Kerry's 252 Electoral Votes, and they all belong to Obama.

Add IA and NM as safe Obama states, and Obama is left needing to win only one of the following 6 states to win the election, all of which he either currently leads or is effectively tied in:

CO, FL, OH, VA, NC, NV.

Bottom line: Obama could have a bad night on 11/4 and still win this election, whereas McCain is going to need the night to go perfectly in order to have a chance.

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Greg_Lang:

Don't get me wrong I don't think this is an outlier but some of Obamas support is soft if you believe the decision making of respondents in this poll.

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cinnamonape:

"Palin didn't do the campaign any favors with her "If I could be like Dick (Cheney)" line last night. NH folks are very serious about Consitutionality."

Yep! She believes that a "fourth branch" what the Constitution meant when it said that the VP will break ties in the Senate? Imagine her running McCains "Drill, Baby, Drill" portfolio.

Wait...didn't Cheney hold secret meetings with Exxon, Chevron, Enron, Frontier, and all the other big oil companies under his "Fourth Branch" philosophy?

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cinnamonape:

"I'm still very worried about MN"

I think that Obama is going to shift resources there from MI now. He might also start putting pressure on Indiana.

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Trosen:

Yup, and it's time to go after Palin. she freakin loves Cheney. (Mr. 18% approval rating Cheney) Take the kid gloves off. Stop worrying about being seen as "sexist."

In an interview aired Thursday, Sarah Palin claimed that Dick Cheney's worst act as vice president was his "duck hunting accident."

"Worst thing, I guess, that woulda been the duck hunting accident, where, you know, that was, that was an accident. And that was made into a caricature of him, and that was kind of unfortunate." (In fact, Cheney accidentally shot his friend Harry Whittington during a quail hunting trip.)

Cheney's best act, according to Palin: "[H]e's shown his support along with George W. Bush of our troops."

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thoughtful:

Kerry States + Florida

Game over

But all the other routes to 270 +

Odds are probably shorter on Obama with 330 + EVs than a McCain Win!

That gives an idea of the sheer come back McCain needs to make, tough ask.

McCain is unelectable in any case.

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ericsp28:

One poll isn't anything to get too worried about. Until we see another poll that has McCain in the lead in MN then the SUSA poll is just an outlier.

The Obama campaign will only put money into MN if their internal polls indicate the race is tightening up there. If that happens then you can start to worry

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Greg_Lang:

cinnamonape -- I think you have a point she is not exactly a NH Republican. I don't think she won last nights debate at all but she did a lot better than casual watchers would have expected and this could move some voters who were voting against her into McCain's arms. He is very well received in NH (at least before he changed all his "Maverick" view points in this election.

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Trosen:

In other words:

Secret energy meeting that's led to $4 gas and winfall profits - thumbs up from Palin

Defying Constitution and injecting VPs office into Legislative branch, not to mention Plamegate - thumbs up from Plain

Secret overseas detention camps/Guantanamo/torture - thumbs up from Palin

The more I think about it, the more I'm disappointed Biden didn't go after her on this stuff. (in the role of a VP question part)

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Ann Arbor Lupin:

Democrats (or Obama supporters).

Don't be too wishful of the victory. There's still 4 weeks to go with too many variables.

Looking good, but still too close to call.

But most important of all, JUST GET PEOPLE TO VOTE!!!

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NYCeconomist:

Thing is, Obama has such a large organization with such broad resources that he is probably working MN hard already with tons of field offices. He can definitely afford broad ad buys as well. Heck, he already has a fairly large infrastructure in Maine. If the key states keep shifting it is to his advantage because he is well organized more broadly. It is in McCain's interest to try to establish a map where he can win by focusing on a very small number of states.

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CaliforniaIndie:

It sounds like McCain has found his new message: "Senator Obama will raise taxes, I will cut them." (wash, rinse, repeat).

Let's see if that translates into voter support.

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KipTin:

Wow...cinnamonape... interesting interpretation of Palin's remarks from her saying that she agrees with a "flexible" VP. Palin did not invoke Cheney has her role model.

FYI: The VP has been increasing in importance for some time (e.g. Clinton/Gore) and notably Cheney became the ultimate power VP. In that context, why didn't you have a problem with Biden's description of his Cheney-like role in an Obama administration?

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carl29:

I always thought that NH will be a little more skeptical of McCain's pandering to the right. I truly believe that Sarah Palin did not help here.

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Timdicator:

I need to see another week of consistent, strong polling coupled with a good debate performance before I even feel remotely comfortable about this campaign.

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mrut:

NH is looking good. No matter what, though, we'll keep canvassing and calling. I'll be knocking on doors tomorrow for the sixth Saturday in a row and won't let up until 5 November.

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Trosen:

KipTin, please say you're kidding. The Constitution explicitly states the role of the VP outside the Executive Branch is as tie-breaking vote in the senate. THAT IS IT.

(Article I, Section 3):

Quote:
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.


So when Plain is talking about "expanding the role of the VP," what is she talking about, other than a Cheney-style UNCONSTITUTIONAL expansion of VP powers??

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pbcrunch:

With the early voting in OH, I think it's very relevant to point out that it was the Republicans who went to court to try to stop the one week "window" where one could register and vote absentee at the same time. This either means A) they're bluffing or B) they're truly concerned that they don't have the ground game to counter Obama's effort.

Considering the McCain campaign is pulling out of MI and is having issues in a host of "must win" red states, I would go with (B).

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Trosen:

pb, the Republicans are ALWAYS trying to supress voter turnout. Now more than ever.

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NW Patrick:

Great result in NH! I wonder if Palin was, god for sake, able to be VP if she'd use Queue cards to talk about policy? It was insulting how scripted it was. How do you feel about health care? Let me talk about OIL. LOL

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BOOMFAIL:

How much more of a lead is needed until they turn this state Blue?

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Mark in LA:

Good to see NH moving away from tossup. I live in AL and am working in SC over the coming week. SC is painted bright red (plus GA & AL), but I seem to remember the most recent polls showing GA & SC in the single digits, which is pretty astounding. I wonder if either Party is paying more attention to GA & SC. It would be a crushing sweep if Obama took either, but it sure would be nice to see 2008 much closer than 2000 or 2004.

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KipTin:

Fact: The tax on oil companies in Alaska is NOT a windfall profits tax per se, but rather a "net profits tax" which replaced a tax on production that was not tied to oil prices.

A windfall profits tax is a higher tax rate on profits that ensue from a "SUDDEN windfall gain" (ergo the term "windfall") to a particular company or industry. In recent times rapidly rising oil prices have correlated with "sudden windfall gain" but slower increasing oil prices would not have been a windfall.

In the case of Alaska, the higher tax is tied to higher oil prices no matter if there is a "windfall profit" or not. The Alaska tax is imposed on the net profit earned on each barrel of oil pumped from state-owned land, after deducting costs for production and transportation, which are currently estimated at just under $25 a barrel. The tax is set at its highest rate in Prudhoe Bay, where the state takes 25 percent of the net profit of a barrel when its price is at or below $52. The percentage then escalates as oil prices rise over that benchmark. Alaska gets about $49 of a $120 barrel, not counting other fees.

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KipTin:

Good grief... You do not think that Biden was rehearsed in his speech? You honestly think Biden and Obama talk impromptu?

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NW Patrick:

Lets sum it up. Reading the news organizations that the TYPICAL Americans pay attention to, not the Drudge report or Daily Kos. Palin did better than expected but still fell short, Biden wins. They needed a GAME CHANGER. It was not that. Biden was brilliant in remaining low key. Today's big news, Sept. job losses steepest in 5 years! The bail out. Debate gone in a day. Onto Tuesday. The problem with the McCain campaign is obviously that the top of the ticket is old and doesn't represent CHANGE. Obama will MOP the floor with McCain Tuesday as he did in the 1st debate. Cool, calm, intelligent, independents are loving that. Rasmussen +7. WOW BoomShakWindBag you have 1 day now for O to drop 4 points!:) LOL Remember? Statistical tie by Sunday. Watch for it! FAIL.

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Yellow Dog Democrat:

Keep in mind that if Obama carries all the states Kerry carried in 2004 and adds Iowa (a certainty), along with New Hampshire and Colorado, he goes over 270 electoral votes and wins. Under this scenario, Obama would not need to win either Ohio or Florida. Therefore if Obama takes New Hampshire, then McCain has to take Colorado or he loses.

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NW Patrick:

If the VP debate for one of the candidates was to just not fall on her face, read from queue cards, and repeat campaign slogans, then this, my friends, is a FAIL. Most polls this morning agree. Pundits are going 70/30 to Biden.

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thoughtful:

@KipTin

"I want to return to talk about energy."

She couldn't talk about any other economic issue.

Palin is an ignoramus.

As a country we have sunk to a very low level in what we ask in terms of ability of our public service officials,

You think Palin is fit to serve?

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NW Patrick:

From Politico.

On at least 10 occasions, Palin gave answers that were nonspecific, completely generic, pivoted away from the question at hand, or simply ignored it: on global warming, an Iraq exit strategy, Iran and Pakistan, Iranian diplomacy, Israel-Palestine (and a follow-up), the nuclear trigger, interventionism, Cheney's vice presidency and her own greatest weakness.

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Trosen:

KipTin, of course Biden had rehearsed talking points. who doesn't? But you can say your pre-scripted stuff while actually answering the moderator's questions (AS BOTH PARTIES HAVE TO AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THE DEBATE BEFOREHAND). And don't tell me any "moderator bias" stuff. She was as soft as a daisy on BOTH Palin and Biden last night. there was no real "moderation" whatsoever.

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nick-socal:

How is it that national polls show Obama up by 6-8% and yet we're still wondering if the EV will be a tie or that Obama still needs to pick up 6 EVs as it stands now? Seems odd and off kilter to me. Shouldn't + 6-8% in national polls be an EV landslide? And if so why is the map still in play? I know it supposedly takes the state polls to catch up with the national polls, but the national polls have been showing a pretty significant Obama lead for awhile now.

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MNLatteLiberal:

Yellow Dog, Obama doesn't even need NH under that scenario. The question is no longer "who?", but rather "by what margin?".

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thoughtful:

@NW Patrick

Add Bankruptcy legislation

Add Carbon Capping

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Morssa:

If the Rasmussen NH poll was updated maybe it owuld turn it to licht blue...

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KipTin:

Do your research... Trosen. Sure, we all know what the Constitution says, but the VP has as much "power" as the President delegates to him.

VP power has been increasing for some time. For example, From more than 20 years ago... a 1985 article titled "Vice-Presidential Power: Advice and Influence in the White House" by Paul C. Light published in The American Political Science Review.

Here is a more recent article (2001) titled "The Vice Presidency Grows Up" which gives a good historical overview....
http://www.hoover.org/publications/policyreview/3479312.html


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thoughtful:

KipTin/Undecided

You think Palin is fit to serve?

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JCK:

nick,

I think if Obama is leading in the National Polls by 5-6 percent election day, I suspect he will win FL, VA, and OH. Remember that Kerry trailed nationally, and came pretty close in OH.

Obama is in a much better position.

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zotz:

Kiptin
"You do not think that Biden was rehearsed in his speech?"

Actually, no. His attack on McCain's health care plan was terrible even if he was right.
I still don't understand what he said.

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nick-socal:

I'd like to remind everyone that Dukakis was up something like 17% in the polls 5 weeks before the election. EVERYONE assumed that Bush was dead and it would be a laugher. Don't get too excited for Obama yet. Keep working, talking, convincing, etc.

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KipTin:

I think Palin is better fit to serve than Obama.

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nick-socal:

@KipTin: To serve what?

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McShame:

Obama up 7 in Gallup!

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KipTin:

Hey... Trosen... did you watch the first Presidential debate? They did not answer the questions either (as pointed out last night by Gwen Ifel).

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ericsp28:

Obama's lead in the Gallup Daily Tracking poll is up to 2 points from 5 yesterday to 7 today.

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thoughtful:

@Kip Tin

I have got to ask this question: have you completely taken leave of your senses?

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mysticlaker:

You ready for this BOOM?

O 49 M 42
+7 Gallup

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110944/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Leading-Points.aspx

I guess your theories FAILED. You suck ass.

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BOOMFAIL:

Gallup gonna be tied by Sunday, right boombatty??

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mysticlaker:

Oh, Hi Boomfail...

We should get together and plot our strategy for Boomshak. How to best humilate his pathethic rants...You betcha!

Maybe if showed the tinest bit of intelligence or insight I would not do this, but since he is an ape, why not? He may put up his "white flag of surrender"!

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mysticlaker:

From my spreadsheet, McCain may have had a 39% night last night in Gallup. Ouch...

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NW Patrick:

nick-socal I understand your Dukakis point but what you may not understand is that McCain is the Dukakis. People are getting to know Obama and NOW trusting him. Polls are swinging because the average American is getting comfortable with him and realizing what WE have always known, that he is brilliant, calm, collected, intelligent.

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JCK:

@nick

I don't think you're correct. Looking at Mark's article (/blogs/convention_bumps_in_context.html), the 17 point lead was in July, immediately following the DNC. By the time the RNC rolled around, GHWB took the lead and never gave it back.

Mark's graph doesn't show Dukakis with leading in any October polls.


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abraxaf:

nick-socal, Dukakis was never up by double digits in a single poll after early August (I think that +17 was immediately after the Dem convention). And at this time in 1988, Bush was up by about 5 points, much like Obama is now.

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zotz:

Nick is saying that we shouldn't be complacent and he is right. But it would take something big like a terrorist attack to change that many voters. If the Reps had anything big against Obama we would have seen it by now. They have nothing and they are praying for a miracle.

That is where we stand.

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sunnymi:

@mysticlaker, you said "From my spreadsheet, McCain may have had a 39% night last night in Gallup. Ouch..."

I think not....Here is what my spreadsheet says.
But in either case he had one really bad night in the last 3 nights :-)

Tue 47(M)-46(O)
Wed 37(M)-53(O)
Thu 42(M)-48(O)

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masselo:

obama is up by 7 in the new gallup poll..

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abraxaf:

Damn you JCK!

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mysticlaker:

Obama may be up to +8.5 nationally now. Even if McCain steals points soon (which I doubt unless some significant gaffe/external event occurs), Obama is excellent shape. He can play offense only in states like NC, VA, CO, OH. I think he will bring Georgia back into this shortly with media buys.

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mysticlaker:

You are right with Wed being the day- my bad! But I still get 39 for Wed...Hmmm.

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ericsp28:

I expect McCain to get a bounce from the passage of the bail out bill (it looks like its going to pass at this point), although any bounce will be mitiated by the bad employment numbers that were released this morning.

I woulnd't be supristed to see McCain improve by a couple of points nationally by the middle of next week.

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sunnymi:


Kiptin, no one is denying the fact that Vice Presidents have assumed a more important role over the last few Presidencies but what distinguishes Cheney from anyone else is the fact that he almost crowns himself a fourth branch of the government completely unto himself claiming he neither belongs to the executive nor legislative branches.

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H2OPlus:

If McCain and Palin are going to continue to say "you are looking backward" every time Obama and Biden try to link them to Bush. They might want to say something like the following:

It's not a question of looking backward; it's a question of accountability. Americans, everyday someone is holding you accountable for what you do. It may be your community, your church, your employer or your family. What McCain is asking by saying this is that you don't hold him accountable for Bush and his party's actions over the last eight years - even though he has supported Bush and Cheney 90% of the time and is a member of the party that has created these problems. Let me ask you this, if you had done as poorly as these guys did over the last eight years, would your employer let you off the hook? Would you be able to walk away and have others overlook your performance? Would you be able to say to your employer, "Oh, quit looking backward." Should they get special treatment that regular, hard working Americans don't? Don't let McCain and Palin run from their responsibilities.

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Justin:

Bailout just passed.

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Trosen:

KipTin, yes I did. And to an extent, that is correct. But Jim Lehrer kept them on point as much as he could, and questioned assertions that lacked details. there was none of that last night, for either candidate. As to your comment that the VP has as much power as the president delegates him.. wrong. the Executive branch CAN NOT delegate authority to other branches of government not authorized by the Constitution. I know the conservative movement sees that more as a "guideline map" than the Law the last few years, but the LAW it is. It's simple 7th grade Civics Seperation of Powers. Checks and Balances. Etc.

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sunnymi:

@mysticlaker, you said "You are right with Wed being the day- my bad! But I still get 39 for Wed...Hmmm."

You could be right too. But here is what I have for the last 7 days. I am rounding off to arrive at daily numbers and they might be using un-rounded numbers for the rolling averages!

42(M)-48(O)
44(M)-49(O)
40(M)-53(O)
45(M)-45(O)
47(M)-46(O)
37(M)-53(O)
42(M)-48(O)

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thoughtful:

@Zotz

I don't believe that a terrorist attack would favor McCain.

The situation is that neither he or Palin are seen by enough voters as being presidential.

He is too old and she is too dumb, and wierd.


AVERAGE OF THE 4 TRACKERS + 7.5% OBAMA.

JURY OUT ON GWU/BATTLEGROUND

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thoughtful:

MY BAD 7.75% AVERAGE

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greg in charlotte:

Sarah Palin will be the president in 2012.

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NW Patrick:

I registered 5 friends this week. It's so easy at www.barackobama.com We have a mail in only system in Oregon. I don't know why the WHOLE country doesn't go to this. Going to a poll is so outdated.

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Trosen:

Wacth now as McCain takes full credit for the bailout passing. Which is a double-edged sword for him. As I said, I believe it will bosst him a couple of points over the next few days.

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Bonzi77:

@Trosen

You're right, of course, but there's things that a VP can do unofficially that give him power. For example, Obama could say to Biden, "Hey, help me come up with a strategy to get this bill passed in the Senate" or something like that. In a sense, the VP can be like a high profile advisor, even though he doesn't wield any official power.

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crackbaldo:

KipTin:

"I think Palin is better fit to serve than Obama."

Yeah, and Bush is the best president ever. Loon.

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greg in charlotte:

October surprise......obamacrimes.com

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greg in charlotte:

Well Palin is much more qualified to be president than Obama. Plus she is an American citizen.

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nick-socal:

I stand corrected and blame Tom Hartman for the bad dates :) He said that it was five weeks to the election that Dukakis was up 17%. So my bad for not cross referencing Hartman. However, his point was it was the Willy Horton ads that killed Dukakis. So my point is, don't get complacent. Fight on. And the RNC/McCain will probably try to come out with their version of the Willy Horton ad. Don't assume they don't have anything.

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pbcrunch:

Funny how the state of Hawaii isn't challenging Obama's claim that he was born there, thus making him an American citizen, huh?

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Trosen:

Bonzi, of course. But when Palin says:


MODERATOR:

"Governor [Palin], you mentioned a moment ago that the Constitution might give the Vice President more power than it has in the past. Do you believe, as Vice-President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the Vice-Presidency, that is, it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?"

PALIN:

"Well, Our Founding Fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the Vice Presidency and we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the President's agenda in that position. Um. Yeah. So. I do agree with him [Cheney] that we have a lot of flexibility in there and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation and it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as VP with, with, uh, McCain not only as a Governor but earlier on as a mayor as an oil and gas regulator as a business owner it is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also."

What on Earth is she talking about? Article 1 of the Constitution (again my conservative friends.. it's the Law, not just a guideline)clearly states what the Separation of Powers are, what the VPs role is (SENATE TIEBREAKER) and has no legal sway in the Legislative Branch whatsoever. So she's AGREEING with Cheney that the VPs power should go beyond the scope of the Law explicitly written into the Constitution, and in fact asking for more!

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greg in charlotte:

obamacrimes.com

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Basil:

greg

President of what?

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zotz:

thoughtful-
I thought Bush was too dumb. He wasn't. Everything rides on perception. Obama has been great the last couple of weeks and McCain has been very bad. All Obama has to do is hold serve and he wins. But he is not infallible. He screws up too. We will see how good a finisher he is. I put his odds of winning now at 90%.

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greg in charlotte:

Larry Walsh, Obamas friend home was just raided by the FBI today. Its something to do with the earmarks that he recieved from Obama.

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greg in charlotte:

Obamas freinds list William Aryes, Rev Wright, Tony Resko, Charles Manson.

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crackbaldo:

greg in charlotte:

Phil Berg, the plaintiff from Berg v. Obama, is an effin loon. The case will be dismissed as Berg has no particular injury and thus no standing to bring the suit.
Quit posting that crap here.

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greg in charlotte:

Phil Berg is a Liberal, but he has a solid case so far. The judge still has not throw it out. So please stop posting your crap.

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thoughtful:

@zotz

It's around the time of the week that Brambster pops up and we do a general recon of where this election is and where it's likely to go.

Apart from the one SUSA Minn poll things couldn't be much better for Obama.

His support seems firmer.

Obama in the lead in ALL his first tier target states and most of the second tier states.

We are well past the first debate that he obviously won. Next debate Tuesday.

McCain seems to be on the run with too much to defend.

Palin has already thrown away some of the good will she picked up last night today with her unseemly attack on Obama today.

The Bailout Bill has McCain's prints on them. The Deregulation that led to the meltdown also has McCain's finger prints on them.

There is little room for the next McCain stunt, as he has little credibility left and increasingly is seen as the wrong kind of Maverick.

Obama enjoys more "Trust" in the polls.

Biden is seen as a very stromg Vice Presidential candidate.

We are waiting to see if Palin can re-cature positive favorability rating.

Boomshak is considering voting for Obama such is his dismay with McCain and positive with the moderation Obama is displaying.

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zotz:

greg-
I don't know if you completed second grade but my teacher in that grade taught me a helpful spelling rule.

It went: i before e except after c.

There are some exceptions to this rule like "science" but I don't suppose you use that word much.

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ronnie:

greg in charlotte,
i suppose obama isn't american because he's black, right? dont bring that closedminded ignorance here.

you also seem very interested in taking stories that don't have any concrete evidence as gospel...i guess you and your right-wing extremists are very disappointed these stories are struggling to find the last page on local newspapers.

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zotz:

thoughtful-
I admire your optimism. The last eight years has filled me with negativity. Maybe in November I can begin to recover.

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Schill:

Ras just confirms CNN poll on Nevada with Obama leading 51-47 great news

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Mark in LA:

As one out of only 2 Democrats at my place of work in the other LA (Lower Alabama), my coworkers have told me two Obama jokes recently. In one, the punch-line was about Obama's assassination. The other implied Michelle Obama was a whore.
They have repeatedly forwarded emails focusing on Obama being a product of a white mother and a black father. In their minds, there ain't much worse than being a product of miscegenation.
What they don't understand, is that their bigoted, hateful emails and jokes tell me much more about their character, than about the Obamas.
Are you listening "Greg in Charlotte?"

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CTPonix4BHObama:

@ thoughtful

"McCain is unelectable in any case."

Who'd have ever thought we'd be saying that about the white candidate running against the first serious black candidate.

This climate might as well be sulfuric acid for republicans. If things continue to trend the way they are I dont see any reason why those Obama voters wont just vote Dem down the line in Nov. Just imagine the majority we could have...no more republicans breaking the all time filibuster record being obstructionists.

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tjampel:

nick-socal:

I stand corrected and blame Tom Hartman for the bad dates :) He said that it was five weeks to the election that Dukakis was up 17%. So my bad for not cross referencing Hartman. However, his point was it was the Willy Horton ads that killed Dukakis. So my point is, don't get complacent. Fight on. And the RNC/McCain will probably try to come out with their version of the Willy Horton ad. Don't assume they don't have anything.

Posted on October 3, 2008 1:45 PM

I agree with you that they will try anything they can. I'm counting on the fact that, when people are worried about their jobs, health care, their homes, investments, credit and life-savings, Rezco, Wright, Ayers, and the rest of the primary distractions, pale in comparison. However, I'm not the least bit complacent and fully expect whole a slew of 527 Ads starting in the next two weeks hitting on all these themes and more.....fathering aliens, whatever they can come up with.

If people are convinced that McCain is unsuitable to lead this country because of his bizarre behavior and , his born again pro-Bush ideology, and his bad judgment regarding deregulation, Iraq, and a host of other issues, and that Obama and not McCain articulates a vision which is closer to their own than , and that Democratic platform will give them a better life than the Republican one, they will, at this late date, vote for Obama unless the proverbial live boy dead girl situation arises or unless we are suddenly gripped with a serious National Security crisis.

Were the economy rolling along in great shape McCain would be up by 7 right now, no doubt. This is a change election because the economy stinks and seems to be falling into a black hole. The incumbent party is getting blamed and McCain, Maverick that he allegedly is, is the one who's taking the heat for it.

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