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PA: 2010 Sen (Kos 5/10-12)

Topics: Pennsylvania , poll

DailyKos.com (D) / Research 2000
5/10-12/10; 600 likely voters, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Kos release)

Pennsylvania

2010 Senate: Democratic Primary
45% Sestak, 43% Specter (chart)

2010 Senate: General Election
49% Toomey, 41% Specter (chart)
45% Toomey, 40% Sestak (chart)

Favorable / Unfavorable
Arlen Specter: 45 / 44 (chart)
Joe Sestak: 39 / 26
Pat Toomey: 45 / 40
Ed Rendell: 43 / 48 (chart)
Bob Casey: 51 / 28 (chart)
Barack Obama: 46 / 47 (chart)

 

Comments
Field Marshal:

Wonder if the primary fight is hurting both of them in the general against Toomey.

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CHRIS MERKEY:

Yeah That was what was constantly being said during the Hillary-Obama primary fight too. How did that work out again?

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Paleo:

I'm sure PA Democrats will rally behind whichever one wins, if for no other reason than because of the candidate on the other side, Mr. Club for Growth, and his nutty far right economic ideas.

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Field Marshal:

What "nutty" far-right economic ideas are those?

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Paleo:

Everything from a national sales tax to privatizing social security.

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Paleo:

Everything from a national sales tax to privatizing social security.

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Field Marshal:

So when the Obama administration implements a VAT tax in the coming few years, which i put at better than 50/50, are you going to be on here calling it "nutty far-right economic ideas"?

Privatizing SS would be fantastic. Bush's plan a few years back would have been great for this country. Heck, even Sweden, a socialist country if there was one, privatized their national pension system. Chile gave people the option about two decades ago to choose between the two. Today, over 90% choose the private system.

I guess that is downright nutty!

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Paleo:

It is.

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Field Marshal:

Wouldn't you say its downright nutty to have a ponzi scheme system that is going to bankrupt us on current trends? Defined benefit pension systems will be extinct in the next decade or so.

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Paleo:

I'm sure you're looking forward to that. Shift the risk onto the worker, while the companies make out like bandits.

As for your first sentence, since I disgree with your entire premise, there's little point responding.

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jmartin4s:

I on't always trust kos polls. They are so agenda driven just like Rasmussen. I refer to them as Daily Push Polls and the fact that Sestak leads only by 2 means that its probably tied or that Specter is leading due to the fact that Dailykos has been practically buttering up Sestaks base since August'09.I'm also noticing that other than the Suffolk poll which seems to be a clear outlier to the rest of the polls, Sestak cannot clear 47%. Thus I'm still sticking with my prediction of
51% Specter
49% Sestak

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Field Marshal:

"I'm sure you're looking forward to that. Shift the risk onto the worker, while the companies make out like bandits."

Don't know how they would "make out like bandits". Sounds more like nutty far-left anti-capitalistic rhetoric to me.

We wouldn't workers having any risk in life. I guess going bankrupt is better than that... i guess....

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Farleftandproud:

I think either Sestak or Specter will win in the general. It will probably be really close like George Allen Vs Jim webb in VA. Probably recounts and lawyers will be required.

Toomey's record does bother me, yet he doesn't seem like he would be that far right based on his district and his resume. Most of the organizations he is a member of have nothing to do with religion or politics.

I guess it is all going to depend on turnout. Sestak or Specter have to reach out to white working class people, and focus on the fact the are the ones who are on their side. African American turnout or lack of will also decide this race.

No early voting in PA unfortunately. That already gives the GOP the edge.

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CHRIS MERKEY:

Far left:

Did you look at the article that was posted on here by Harry Enten titled Pat Toomey: Conservative Hero. His rating was just as conservative as Tom Coburns . It was in the 700's. Santorum, who I am sure you are not a big fan of, was in the 300's. It wasn't like he was voting so conservative based on his district. It was Allentown. Pretty sure they have a democratic rep there now. I am not sure how we won there truthfully. He is my number one target this year. Hopefully, the winner of this primary can beat Mr. Toomey. I didn't know he was for privitization of social security but I could have figured. PA has the 2nd oldest population in the country behind Fl. It was one of the reasons why McCain and Palin thought they could win this state. Anyway you hit it hard on that one fact alone and Toomey is a goner.

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nick283:

Charlie Dent, a Republican, is now the representative in Toomey's old district. Obama has a negative favorability rating in PA in a Kos poll, that doesnt bode well for any Democrats there. Toomey could blow it or Obama could suddenly become popular again, but right now it seems to be Toomey's to lose.

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Farleftandproud:

PA is a wierd state politically. They seem to be stuck in the past and have a hard time moving forward politically. Philly is a nice place to visit, but it wasn't one of my favorite cities. Too many racial problems and the time I spent there it was one bad thing after another on the news.

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Farleftandproud:

I think part of the problem in rural PA is the problem in much of the country. The Christian Right. Santorum, Huckabee and Palin are examples of this. It is a theocratic government they want, and in my opinion they are to this generation what American communists were in the 1950's. They are a huge threat to Democracy and I am not going to stand for it. They may think they can conquer the US with fundamentalism. People like myself will not stand for it. It is tyranny.

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Farleftandproud:

I think part of the problem in rural PA is the problem in much of the country. The Christian Right. Santorum, Huckabee and Palin are examples of this. It is a theocratic government they want, and in my opinion they are to this generation what American communists were in the 1950's. They are a huge threat to Democracy and I am not going to stand for it. They may think they can conquer the US with fundamentalism. People like myself will not stand for it. It is tyranny.

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Farleftandproud:

I think part of the problem in rural PA is the problem in much of the country. The Christian Right. Santorum, Huckabee and Palin are examples of this. It is a theocratic government they want, and in my opinion they are to this generation what American communists were in the 1950's. They are a huge threat to Democracy and I am not going to stand for it. They may think they can conquer the US with fundamentalism. People like myself will not stand for it. It is tyranny.

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Fred:

Farleft, do you have proof that they would create a theocracy? When has, for example, Huckabee, in his 10 years as governor of AR, tried for a theocracy? I really think your claim here is to the left loonies what the "birthers" thing is to the right loonies.

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nick283:

Yeah, FarLeft I know that is what you would like to think of Republicans generally, but Republicans generally want the government out of their lives, especially this cycle. Any element of authoritarianism be it theocratic or otherwise usually tends to come from the party who wants government more involved in people's lives.

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Field Marshal:

Whoa, whoa! Fred and Nick, you are not allowed to question the lefts generalities and insane straw-man argument. That is clearly not allowed on this site per the lefts rules. Now, had one of you said the liberals hate religion and the private sector, you would have had several libs on this board calling for your head and for you to cease the clearly bias and lumping of libs together.

Learn how the left operates before speaking the truth.

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11thGenerationAmerican:

Theocracy: "government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided."

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Mike Huckabee told a Michigan audience on [January 18, 2008]. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."
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Now, where would anyone get the idea that Mike Huckabee is an intolerant religious fanatic who wants to govern based on his own notion of divine guidance?

LOL!

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tjampel:

@nick283
"Republicans generally want the government out of their lives"

Consider each of the following and tell me which Party has supported these policies the most:

spying on its own citizens, especially listening in on private cell phone conversations of citizens, absent any probable cause to do so. If there's probable cause it's not a restriction on any right. If it's just some hunch or suspicion then it's big Gov intruding in our lives, IMO.

seeking to control what citizens can legally put in their bodies, when it's considered to be a "drug" such as pot; refusing to apply the similar controls when that drug is alcohol or tobacco, though these are the deadliest of drugs.

taxing citizens wealth and giving much of that money to banks and corporations in the form of bailouts and direct subsidies to certain industries. These policies have been in place for many years with regard to Agribusiness and Oil Companies and others; two years ago they were expanded to Wall street and the Banks. Again, whether or not you agree with these measures they show Republicans all too happy to directly transfer wealth from taxpayers to Wall St, banks, oil companies, and agribusiness.

Passing national laws impinging on the rights of the states regarding what constitutes marriage. Though opposed to anything but strict construction of the Constitution Republicans believe that there's something in the Constitution that allows BIG Gov to define what marriage is for the citizens of the several States?

Commencing a 1 Trillion dollar + war in Iraq with absolutely no mechanism to pay for it, thus making our children and grandchildren pay down the road. This is the kind of thing Republicans revile Democrats from doing, and yet, they did it themselves here without a second thought. In medieval times no King went off on a war before first levying taxes or requiring sufficient tribute from its vassals to pay for it.

Passing Medicare Part D (little more than a big subsidy for health insurance companies) with absolutely no mechanism to pay for it and after CBO scoring showing a 350 Billion deficit resulting from it. The actual deficit from this turkey of a bill has been closer to 500 Billion. This action by Republicans (this Bill was proposed by them and opposed by liberals) has, again added massively to our debt and burdened our descendants.


Asking states to enforce Federal law regarding immigration; in doing so requiring state residents to carry proof of their citizenship or legal residency at all times, and requiring (under penalty of civil suit) local police to demand papers from possible illegals. Whether this is bad or not it's not supportive of your claim.

Seeking to restrict, to the greatest degree possible, the ability of women to have abortions by, for example, first requiring them to have invasive procedures or be shown movies or dead fetuses or whatever. Whether you think abortion is right or wrong this is still an example of Republicans using Gov to attempt to restrict a legal behavior of people in a manner not specifically contemplated by Roe v Wade.

Each one of these laws and/or policies is the opposite of Gov staying out of the lives of people. Now, maybe you think there are so many bad things people do that we absolutely must have Gov looking over their shoulders and in their homes and bedrooms, or that it's just SO fundamentally important to subsidize and prop up corporate America by giving them our money. this claim. You have to create so many exceptions that it looks like Swiss cheese.

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