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PA: Obama 52, McCain 41 (Muhlenberg 10/20-24)

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Muhlenberg College
10/20-24/08; 601 LV, 4%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews

Pennsylvania
Obama 52, McCain 41

 

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voteforamerica:

Obama's Senate Coattails

State (Flip %)     Coefficient  Obama %  Senate %  Incumbent
Rhode Island (0)       1.55      46.56    72.00     Democrat
Arkansas (0)           1.49      36.19    54.10     Democrat
South Dakota (0)       1.49      40.29    60.00     Democrat
West Virginia (0)      1.42      42.83    61.00     Democrat
Montana (0)            1.41      45.35    64.00     Democrat
Louisiana (2.72)       1.28      41.11    52.68     Democrat
Idaho (0)              1.20      24.90    30.00    Republican
Oklahoma (0.3)         1.20      33.34    39.89    Republican
Virginia (100)         1.17      50.12    58.61    Republican
Delaware (0)           1.14      56.07    64.00     Democrat
New Mexico (100)       1.12      50.24    56.21    Republican
Alaska (62.08)         1.11      41.91    46.60    Republican
Mississippi-B (35.72)  1.10      42.89    47.06    Republican
Michigan (0)           1.08      55.16    59.36     Democrat
Iowa (0)               1.07      53.31    57.16     Democrat
Kentucky (13.48)       1.06      42.19    44.80    Republican
Illinois (0)           1.04      59.72    62.00     Democrat
Massachusetts (0)      1.03      58.71    60.38     Democrat
New Hampshire (99.91)  1.02      50.20    51.29    Republican
Colorado (99.76)       0.98      50.95    50.00    Republican
South Carolina (0)     0.98      40.84    39.83    Republican
Nebraska (0)           0.96      36.84    35.50    Republican
Texas (0.19)           0.96      42.56    40.82    Republican
Georgia (34.13)        0.95      45.86    43.44    Republican
New Jersey (0)         0.92      58.71    54.29     Democrat
North Carolina (59.53) 0.92      47.94    43.94    Republican
Alabama (0)            0.90      35.80    32.26    Republican
Tennessee (0)          0.84      41.23    34.62    Republican
Kansas (0)             0.83      42.22    35.05    Republican
Wyoming-B (0)          0.82      36.36    29.90    Republican
Oregon (72.85)         0.78      49.90    38.97    Republican
Maine (0)              0.77      54.45    42.10    Republican
Mississippi-A (0)      0.75      42.89    32.00    Republican
Wyoming-A (0)          0.75      36.36    27.10    Republican
Minnesota (66.9)       0.73      54.38    39.96    Republican

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adocarbog:

New Colorado Poll
Obama 52%
McCain 40%
Previous August poll (republican pollster) McCain up 3%
Link
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/24/rockycbs4-poll-obama-has-12-point-lead-state/

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whoshotsam:

Zogby tracking poll...

O: 51.1
M: 41.6

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TuftsPat:

McCain was supposedly going hard here at the beginning of the week? Basically no change.

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Rollin08:

Do they track these polls on a republican site? God that must suck..

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TheDragon:

The Republicans are good at getting out the vote but they are not miracle makers. Bush barely won the last 2 elections and McCain isn't nearly as good as Bush as a campaigner. I see why McCain lost to Bush in 2000. Obama is in so much better shape than Kerry its not even funny. Matter of fact Obama is in better shape than Clinton.

The signs are saying this isn't going to be close. The only thing JM has left is hope that people balk at voting for an AA. If not Barack will win this election by miles. As soon as most of the votes are done in PA, FL, NC and Virginia we have a good idea if this is going to be a landslide or if it could remain close.

If you believe this thing is close then your ignoring the McCain campaign. The in fighting. The Republicans criticizing the campaign. The pulling out of states. Even MJ polls are probably showing he is in need of a near miracle.

Look what the top stories right now. Lieberman saying Palin not ready to be President. Palin troopergate scandal. Palin defending the 150,000 shopping spree. McCain supporter fakes attack. Bachmann tapes apology ad for Obama. Tom Ridge says McCain would be in better shape in PA if he was the VP candidate. McCain brother is calling 911 because he stuck in traffic. Nice way to go into the weekend.

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common sense:

Mc Cain's support has been reduced to WW II vets and people who would saddle up dinosoaurs. It is a shame. John McCain is a good American. He just happened to sell out his core beliefs to the right wing in order to get the nomination. Hey - You GOPers - Thanks for Sarah Palin. You are going to be wandering in the wilderness for many years to come.

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Rollin08:

I don't know if Obama even needs to do anything at this point. They seem to be imploding.

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TheDragon:

The thing about these polls is Obama has seen a steady climb in his percentage. McCain has been stuck around 42% for what seems like months now. McCain goes Negative and Obama looses a little support but they don't go to McCain. They just become undecided. A few days later they go right back to Obama. McCain is not doing a good job at giving people a reason to vote for him. He trying to give them reasons not to vote for Barack. Since those reasons are not all that good they don't stick.

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johncoz:

@Rollin08:
"I don't know if Obama even needs to do anything at this point."

He sure does. The home stretch is exactly when the greatest efforts and tightest discipline need to be exercised.

Why? Because there is no time to correct if you let it slip.

Think tennis: what makes a great champion like Federer? Sure, he has the talent etc. But to win requires that killer instinct to close and close hard. Obama knows this; he has been telling everyone this.

The GOP machine has had another bad week, but it hasn't been de-fanged. It remains a dangerous and formidable opponent.

And to remember what you are fighting for, Obama's closing remarks in Virginia this week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9OhVMHIuO4


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TheDragon:

Agree with common sense:

McCain 8 years ago would have had a shot against Barack. He was nearly a democrat anyway. When he lost to Bush he decided he needed be a good Republican to win the nomination. That got him the nomination but now he is seen as third term George Bush.

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Basil:

Re the idea that D's (or any party's) having control of the presidency and both houses is inherently bad: under "normal" circumstances there might be some validity to it.

When things are as messed-up as they are now, it's arguably a time for the gov't to be able to make more substantial course corrections than would normally be possible with a divided gov't. The "steering" metaphor seems apt, and rightly suggests the possibility that there is an added risk to one-party control as well as greater possible advantage.

R's are happy to point out the risk, but are downplaying the possible advantage--something one imagines R's wouldn't do if the tables were turned.

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straight talk:

McCain Camp needs to Blitz ohio and Florida from hear to Election Day. PA is not in Play! And next week when big numbers come in from Battleground states! Don't get the BIG HEAD DEMS!!! Landslide ALERT!!!!!

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Pro-America_Anti-America:

Yes! Blitz Ohio and Florida and forget everything else. They will still be short of 270 even with both but who cares its all about being able to say you won them both! Alert!

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common sense:

The Racoon Lodge has voted- Obama for President ! See you in Bismarck.

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common sense:

you geeks are just a bunch of nitwits. get a life.

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straight talk:

McCain Camp says they they are playin offense! But who is playin Defense! Landslide Alert!

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AdamSC:

I'm an avid supporter of Barack Obama but I'm even way too skeptical to think that this is going to be a "Landslide".

I do hope I'm proven wrong but a minority of white Americans are racist. The majority of us have moved on from these petty differences because the new generations have grown accustomed to other races.

If it is a "landslide" then indeed a new chapter in American History will be written and our country will reclaim it's pedestal for being a role-model for the world. Either that or people are truly afraid for their bank accounts and what's left of them.

But even then, the booming support Obama has gained in this economic crisis shows that when America faces tough times, that it's people are willing to look past our stark differences and rally behind one common purpose.

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political_junki:

A win with 270 EV will be more exciting than a landside :)

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johncoz:

political_junki:
A win with 270 EV will be more exciting than a landside :)

It will be a difficult couple of years that will be made immensley easier by:
1. A majority of the vote, not simply a plurality.
2. An electoral map that breaks through the Rovian division and divisiveness.

This is not just in terms of legitimacy for nation, but also exercising some authority over a Democratic Congress, which left to its own devices will hardly be an sdvertisement for "change".

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political_junki:

johncoz:
Maybe, but based on history: after 3 months no one remembers or cares who the guys has won let alone 2 years...

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political_junki:

I meant :"e remembers or cares ***how*** the guys has w"

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straight talk:

Landslide Alert!

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rami:

Based in 2000 and 2004 elections, 10 days before the vote, states with a steady differences of more that 8-10 points one way or the other in polls can be considered "done".

Meaning JM can basically be sure to get those 142 EV's. And BO can be 99% sure to get those 255.
As BO doesn't need more than just 15 EV's beyond that, it's hard to see him losing.

He can win with Dark blue + OH, or Dark Blue + VA + NH, or dark blue + NM + MO....

Mccain could sweep ALL yellow states he still losses by a wide margin.

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johncoz:

A win is a win, quite true. But a convincing win would be a very much better start in the very challenging environment that the next 2 years presents.

But perhaps we are thinking too far ahead. Twelve more sleeps, and we can worry about these issues then. Whatever the margin, it will be exciting.

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Lechuguilla:

I dunno ...

The Colorado poll mentioned near top of this thread is encouraging. But ...

Early voting in Colorado is about even between Dems & Reps. Indeed, Gallop had early voting being basically split between Dems & Reps.

I'm concerned that some of these Obama favorable polls are overplaying his strength.

Maybe it's just nervous skepticism on my part. :)

Lech

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straight talk:

Independents is what got obama the lead in the first place! LANDSLIDE ALERT!

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DTM:

@Lechuguilla

Gallup actually had Obama and McCain supporters voting at approximately the same rate, which meant Obama was ahead in early voting. And other pollsters have Obama outperforming in early voting relative to his total numbers. And finally, keep in mind that historically it has been Republicans who vote early more than Democrats, so even parity is a big shift in the Democrats' favor.

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NashvilleLefty:

10/25 Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama 51.1%, McCain 41.6%

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zoot:

Independents represent 23+% of the CO early voters who have voted a/o 10-24. Unless 'Independent' means something different there, McCain will get his lunch eaten in that group. Besides, having basically ceased advertising, McCain won't have any media presence over the last 7-10 days, except for what had previously been bought and paid for.

Barack will be in Denver tomorrow; HRC was there yesterday. They're keeping the pressure on.

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mysticlaker:

turn colorado dark blue!!!!!!!


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NashvilleLefty:

10/25 Dkos/R2K Obama 52, McCain 40

LV, MOE +/- 3, unchanged from 10/24

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boomshak:

SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH STATE POLLING THIS YEAR?

Look no further than the INSANE party weighting advantages SUSA gives to Democrats compared to 2006 for your answer:

Missouri: R+1 in 2006, SUSA using D+7, 8 point variance
North Carolina: R+1 in 2006, SUSA using D+5, 6 point variance
Pennsylvania: D+5 in 2006, SUSA using D+19, 15 point variance
Indiana: R+14 in 2006, SUSA using R+1, 13 point variance
Nevada: R+7 in 2006, SUSA using D+6, 13 point variance
Colorado: R+3 in 2006, SUSA using D+9, 12 point variance
Iowa: R+2 in 2006, SUSA using D+10, 12 point variance
Virginia: R+3 in 2006, SUSA using D+9, 12 point variance
Ohio: D+3 in 2006, SUSA using D+13, 10 point variance

CONCLUSION:
On average SUSA is giving Democrats a 12 point sampling adantage in their state polling compared to 2006. Ludicrous.

This is why, in all these latest SUSA polls, you see Obaam blowing away McCain.

The samples are utterly f*cked.

MY QUESTION:
If this election is so in the bag for Obama, why do his minions in the polling community have to resort to this kind of fraud to depress Republican turnout?

OBAMA'S INTERNAL POLLING:
I have been saying for day now that I have insider information that Internal Polling for the Obama Campaign shows McCain surging in battleground stgates and all contests MUCH closer than advertised in these public polls.

They are freaking out over this and that is why the MSM is pressing all these polls showing Obama ahead by 14 points.

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whoshotsam:

boomshak, SUSA does not weigh for party ID.

Try again.

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boomshak:

MCCAIN'S FINAL PUSH WILL HIT PAYDIRT:

Over the next 2 weeks, McCain is going to sound one major theme:

"A BLANK CHECK FOR LIBERALS IN WASHINGTON IF OBAMA WINS!"

America is a center/right country. No Democrat has won with more than 50% of the vote in the last 30 years and only twice in 60 years. Jimmy Carter got 50.1%.

I don't think the average American has focused on the big picture of what an Obama win really means.

And now we get Barney Frank declaring that, "We are going to cut defense spending by 25%!" and you see how vulnerable you are on this issue.

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boomshak:

@whoshotsam:

boomshak, SUSA does not weigh for party ID.

I know that dumbass, but those are the weightings in their results. So although they don't weight after the fact, they are obviously targeting Democrat rich areas in their polling.

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whoshotsam:

More on SUSA's policy on weighting...

SurveyUSA doesn't "weight" to party ID.

I apologize that I do not have time (this minute) to give you a longer answer - but here is the short answer. Every pollster asks the Party ID question differently. Every pollster places the Party ID question in a different place in its poll; depending on how close to the "who will you vote for" question the party question is, the more interaction there is between the "who will you vote for" answer and the "Party ID" question. (Meaning: a few people who told you in Question #4 they are voting for Bush may feel hypocritical telling you in Question #5 that they are a Democrat).

Here is how SurveyUSA asks the party question (we ask it identically, for a general election, in every state):

Do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, or an independent?

Republican? press 1.

Democrat? press 2.

If you consider yourself an independent, or a member of some other party, press 3.

If you are not sure, press 4.

(Here is how we do NOT ask it: Are you registered as a Republican? Registered as a Democrat? Or are you not registered with either party?)

How you ask the question affects the answers you get. We like the way our question is worded. We like our data (in Oregon, and in the 35 other states we are polling).

Do our results sometimes surprise my colleagues and me? Every day. But I have learned to not second-guess the data. In the old days, stock brokers used to say, "Don't fight the (ticker) tape." If the tape says the market is down, it's down. If the tape says the market is up, it's up. Don't think you're smarter than the tape, the stock brokers used to say.

For me, after 12 years of looking at thousands of election tracking polls, I have learned to not fight the tape: if my data tells me something is happening, it's happening.

So: today we will release a poll that shows Kerry ahead in Michigan by more than other pollsters show Kerry ahead. That poll will be criticized as being too Democrat on Republican blogs. But that's how we see Michigan today. We'll release a poll in Iowa today that will be criticized on yours and other Democrat blogs as being too Republican. But that's how we see Iowa today.

In the end, we'll either be right or wrong, but we will have been consistent, in every contest.

Summarizing: fluidity in party identification is a natural part of the political process, and an expected part of a campaign, in my opinion, in today's world.

SurveyUSA understands how to weight to party. We choose not to. We do not believe doing so would make our data better.

We very much appreciate the scrutiny that you and others apply to our polls. We think that scrutiny is healthy, and we think you make SurveyUSA and (I would hope) our competitors better because of that scrutiny.

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whoshotsam:

boomshak - thanks for the abuse. Good morning to you as well.

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NashvilleLefty:

@boomshak

Shak, I like your tenacity. But understand something: you have claimed to know many things, and made many predictions, that never came true. What happened to the massive scandal that was about to unfold, and was the reason Obama was supposedly hiding in Hawaii?

Fight for your guy, wind some folks up here all you want. But stop lying. Maybe you think you're doing some good by trying to demoralize people you don't agree with politically, and anonymity makes it easier to evade personal responsibility for lying, but show some class and stop with the bull****.

But altogether, I enjoy the hell out of you sticking up a big middle finger to everyone. Just have some integrity.

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mysticlaker:

Boomshak....

Americans want one party control. That is why we are sweeping the house, senate and presidency...

If someone doesn't want one party control, don't you think they are more likely to vote for a different rep/senator than president...Doesn't that make more sense?

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whoshotsam:

boomshak - one more thing - regarding the latest "new" McCain strategy - you don't have two weeks left.

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boomshak:

MORE STATE POLLING SHENANIGANS:

"a Suffolk poll (VA) showed Obama leading McCain by twelve points. The sample size: 45 percent Democrats and 31 percent Republicans."

"A recent poll from Morning Call (PA) shows Obama leading McCain by 12 points. The internals showed that 54 percent of the respondents were Democrats and 40 percent were Republicans, a 14 point edge for the Democrats."

"Another poll from Survey USA showed Obama leading McCain by 15 points. The sample size showed that 54 percent of the respondents were Democrats and 35 percent were Republicans, a whopping 19 point edge for Democrats."

CONCLUSION:
Some serious bullsh*t going on out there with these polls. Some of those red states you guys have as light blue aren't blue at all and some of those you show dark blue may only be light blue or not blue at all.

That's ok, keep doing it. These bs polls just piss off and motivate the Republican Base but demotivate the Democrats Base. I mean, hell, why stand in line for 4 hours when your guys is 15 points ahead?

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NashvilleLefty:

@whoshotsam

Hilarious. Shakers is like a dog you somehow have some affection for, even though he tears up your stuff and pisses the floor when you're at work, and you can't for life of you figure out what value he brings, but live wouldn't be the same without him.

So this morning, yeah, Shak's weird SUSA rant was like waking up to a big dog steamer on the kitchen floor. You clean it up, then you pour more kibble in the bowl.

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NashvilleLefty:

Shak, old fruitbat: people I know have been waiting years to stand in line to vote against the Republicans.

And Ashley Todd provides more motivation. Was she nucking futs? Hell yes, but her hoax connected all the dots from the "Obamathug" ranting and "the blacks will riot if Obama loses." Nobody is taking ANYTHING for granted. I'm sure you like to console yourself with that particular line of crap, but nobody is buying.

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boomshak:

@NashvilleLefty:

The scandal was the fact that Obama is illegally accepting donations from unnamed sources by willfully turning off the AVS system on his credit card verification from his website.

I can give a donation using the name "Donald Duck" on "1 Quack Lane, Disneyland, CA" and my credit card number and it is accepted, no questions asked. They have intentionally turned off the system that checks these things.

Try doing that on John McCain's website and the charge will be rejected because "Donald Duck" doesn't match the name on the card.

However, even though this scandal broke, the MSM has chosen to COMPLETELY IGNORE IT and thus, it hasn't caught fire. The MSM has become Pravda. Get used to it if Obama slimes out a win.

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JerryTheAngel:

Some McCain supporters and the media point to the "Dewey Defeats Truman" debacle. Here's a history lesson:

In 1948, Gallup blew the Truman-Dewey prediction. How? His mistake was to quit polling two weeks before the election with fourteen percent of the electorate still undecided.

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Indiana4Obama:

Huge number for Obama in Colorado...+12. I understand why Mccain pulled resources out of there. Obama visits on Sunday...great news!

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boomshak:

OBAMA/BIDEN OPEN TO TOUGH QUESTIONS FROM THE PRESS? NOT SO MUCH...

WFTV-Channel 9's Barbara West conducted a satellite interview with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday. A friend says it's some of the best entertainment he's seen recently. What do you think?

West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber, about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.

"Are you joking?" said Biden, who is Obama's running mate. "No," West said.

West later asked Biden about his comments that Obama could be tested early on as president. She wondered if the Delaware senator was saying America's days as the world's leading power were over.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden shot back.

Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.

McGinnis said the Biden cancellation was "a result of her husband's experience yesterday during the satellite interview with Barbara West."

Here's a link to the interview: http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/.

WFTV news director Bob Jordan said, "When you get a shot to ask these candidates, you want to make the most of it. They usually give you five minutes."

Jordan said political campaigns in general pick and choose the stations they like. And stations often pose softball questions during the satellite interviews.

"Mr. Biden didn't like the questions," Jordan said. "We choose not to ask softball questions."

Jordan added, "I'm crying foul on this one."


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maddiekat:

Good morning Boom**** you F ING loser! I see you are already spewing you bull**** early on this Saturday morning. How did you Pizza route go last night? I hope you made enough to go blow some more cash on Intrade.

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[nemesis]:

boomshak, you've heard that people can make donations on the Obama site with fake names. I've also read people who say when they make donations, they get called the next day to verify. If it's true, which I don't really doubt, it would be a pretty good reason for the MSM not to make a big deal out of it and end up looking like an ass (you on the other hand.)

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NashvilleLefty:

So prove illegal activity, Shak.

There's nothing in McCain's system to prevent an illegal donor based in the US from illegally contributing.

It's post-processing that is the key. Were I a foreigner, I could fill out a campaign contribution form, break the law and lie and say I'm legal, and drop a check in the box at a McCain campaign office. The legal responsibility is mine.

Tell me about how Obama doesn't do any post-processing, and I'll listen. Otherwise, you're just recycling the far right conspiratorial talking points, and not doing any thinking on your own.

And every single crackpot negative strategy has failed, pal. Why don't you actually try to say something about what McCain would try to positively accomplish, since your mud-slinging is so pathetic and wimpy? Maybe then someone would listen.

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boomshak:

SIMPLE QUESTION:

Why is the AVS system turned off on Obama's website? You cannot buy ANYTHING on the Internet without having your name and address checked against the credit card number. Just try. You can't.

But you can give money to Obamunism without it being checked.

So, WHY did they turn the security feature off? What POSSIBLE reason could there be?

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NextAmericanChapter:

This election was effectively over when McCain bungled his response to the financial crisis. The statement "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" will go down in history as the second dumbest campaign move of the 2008 election. James Carville called it a month ago and nothing has changed since.

The number one idiotic move was the pick of Sarah Barracuda and the subsequent handling of her. McCain gave up the "experience" argument and he gave up the "celebrity vs. down-to-earth" argument, both of which had helped him close the gap on Obama considerably over the summer. But the worst came with the Couric interview which was simply atrocious. Prior to the Palin pick, last minute voters were going to break heavily in McCain's favor. Now last minute voters will have Palin in mind as they break for Obama.

The Republicans have never been good at governing but have historically been great at campaigning. Now they can't even campaign effectively, coming out with a new message every two days. It's pathetic to watch.

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boomshak:

It's not like the AVS System can accidentally be left off either. You have to willfully go in and disable it.

So again, if you mean no fraud, why disable to fraud protection software?

Why?

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BrookLynda:

Boom: That's ok, keep doing it. These bs polls just piss off and motivate the Republican Base but demotivate the Democrats Base. I mean, hell, why stand in line for 4 hours when your guys is 15 points ahead?

I don't know! Why don't you ask all those people standing in early voting lines for 4 hours when their guy is 15 ponts ahead!

LOL! Fail.

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boomshak:

JUST READ HILARIOUS STORY FROM AP ON JOE BIDEN'S DAILY GAFFES:

You see, Joe Biden's gaffes are acceptable and even charming in their own way because we "expected" this from Joe and he has joyfully delivered.

Meanwhile, if Sarah Palin can't list a number of recent Supreme Court Rulings, she is a mindless bimbo and an insult to America's intelligence.

Biden talks about FDR's "television address" at the start of the Great Depression (FDR wasn't POTUS and there was NO television) and it's "cute" and "there he goes again".

I may vomit. The spin is sickening.

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NextAmericanChapter:

I'm glad that the media is in the tank for Obama. Frankly speaking, it's downright patriotic for the media to be pro-Obama and anti-Republican. After watching the Republicans f#ck up this country over the last eight years, I'm glad someone's come to their senses.

4000 dead needlessly in a dumb war, 200000 jobs lost just this year, erosion of income for the middle-class, Katrina, corrupt justice system...need I go on?

No, Obama isn't a communist but at times I wish he was so that he could send dumbf#cks like Rush, Hannity and BoomShak to a gulag. But Obama's much classier than me so he won't want retribution.

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Terranus:

because Biden has proven he knows better than he talks sometimes. Palin has not.

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NextAmericanChapter:

BoomShak, I hope you and your fellow bottom-dwellers keep donating to Obama. Next week when he gives his 30-minute closing argument on primetime, I hope you realise that your money is helping him win the election. Way to go!

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Viperlord:

People, why are you feeding the troll? He's been fed enough! And here's one of his famous predictions to entertain you:

"drhass:

Get ready for a Romney win. Yeah Huckabee is getting lots of good press from the MSM, but of course, Huckabee could NEVER beat Hillary. The MSM thrashes Romney every day with every word because he COULD beat Hillary and they are scared to death he will.

Right now, Romney holds a double digit lead in:

Iowa
NH
Nevada

If he sweeps those by double digits, then we have over a week to stew on that victory before any more Primaries, Mitt is gonna be tough to stop. Of course this is his plan. Smart plan.

In addition, Mitt has gone up 8 points in many national polls since the Iowa win. he also just cruised to a big victory in the Illinois Straw poll.

Hate to say ‘told you so’, but, ‘told you so’… "

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Viperlord:

Here's another one:

"#

griswold,

“But he hasn’t achieved momentum…”

Romney is like the small college that ends the season undefeated and wants a shot at the national championship.

He just keeps winning these straw polls, and his critics say, “yeah, but it’s just a straw poll”…”yeah, that team is undefeated, but who have they played…?”

The scariest thing if I was trying to beat Romney would be this. In every state where he has a big presence and is getting his message out, he is kickin ass by double digits. To know me is to love me."

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NashvilleLefty:

@boomshak

"You cannot buy ANYTHING on the Internet without having your name and address checked against the credit card number. Just try. You can't."

That's just not true. Nice try. CC processors have different levels of security.

1. No security: entering the card number on a keypad, no name required. The issue is that a customer can contest a charge, even with a signed slip, if there isn't proof that the card was physically provided. That's why your pizza guy takes an imprint of a card.

2. Physical swipe: proves that that the card was present at time of transaction. Some non-signature CC processing, like at gas stations, look for other validation, like zip code, as additional security.

3. Remote processing with CCV number-- the code not embossed on card. Validation of physical presence of card. THIS is e-commerce industry standard, and it is the level of security at barackobama.com.

4. AVS: this is requested as a default setting for most e-com cc and check remote processors ("enter your billing address" verbiage) but not enabled on most. It's expensive. I had to fill billing address info out when I donated to Obama. I'm not surprised that it's not enabled, because it's a waste of money, as it's easy to get that info for someone who wants to steal your identity, as it is publicly available info.

In a former life this was my job. I'm telling you that the Obama online donation follows industry practice for security, and allows the millions of Americans who live abroad to also donate to the website.

The legal responsibility for campaign contributions falls on the affirmation of legal compliance on the part of the donor. Every illegal contribution should be returned and investigated, and I see NO evidence that the Obama campaign will not comply with that.

So get that weak Free Republic **** out of here.

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Viperlord:

The boy who cried wolf anyone?

"Liz Mair,

It will be Romney/Gingrich vs Hillary/Obama in 2008. Get used to it in advance.

Romney won’t need your lame “stay-home-to-protest” vote anyway as he will win in a landslide.

P.S. Are you one of the folks that stayed home in 2006 that I have to thank for giving us Nancy Pelosi as Speaker?

Any Republican that stays home and doesn’t vote in protest (thereby electing liberals) is a complete idiot.

Your Congress-person isn’t conservative enough so you stay home and get a liberal elected? Are you mad? "

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NashvilleLefty:

@boomshak

"It's not like the AVS System can accidentally be left off either. You have to willfully go in and disable it."

You really don't know what you're talking about. You're repeating what other right wing nutjobs have told you. There are multiple cc processors. Their default settings vary. In my old job, I sent an RFP with the desired level of security. There were no "check boxes," numbnuts.

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Viperlord:

"Hard to believe Pelosi referred to the current Republican Leadership as a FREAK SHOW. I mean, sure you can disagree with people politically, but calling the leaders on your government during wartime a freak show?

Lord help us if these people take power."

Tell me boom****, what have you been calling every Democrat in a position of power? Or rather, what HAVEN'T you called them>

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NashvilleLefty:

@shak

Biden gaffes? So what? I'm a lot more interested in Palin's evasion of calling abortion clinic bombers "terrorists," since she is so obsessed with who is a terrorist and who isn't.

Next thing you'll be telling us that Obama believes there are 57 states.

The fact that you think you're accomplishing anything at all by flinging your poop has caused me hours of gut-busting laughter.

Start practicing saying "President Obama."

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Viperlord:

"Let’s see, as Americans would our first choice be a VERY OLD, VERY VERY TIRED LOOKING, SOFT-SPOKEN, RINO PRESIDENT?

I mean seriously, is THAT what we are hankerin for?"

Well, people like you apparently are boom****.

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NashvilleLefty:

@shak

Our hilarious idiot pet wingnut, running around spastically and eating his own feces.

Shak, little fella, the Republican leadership is a freakshow. Watching the meltdown and finger pointing is almost as fun as watching you boil over.

But I hope you remember everything you said about respect for the government when President Obama takes the oath of office. But I'm sure once you get your tax cut, you'll love the guy.

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Viperlord:

These are the truest words out of boom****'s keyboard:

"Patrick,

Frankly, considering the horrendous job that the McCain team has done in squandering his early lead, I am kind of surprised to see you showing ur face around here at all.

Shouldn’t you be busy raising money or something? seriously dude, the McCain Campaign is a TRAIN WRECK. Fish stinks from the head down I suppose.

Ok, regarding the MIA thing. I have HAD IT with the whole idea that if you had a knack for losing planes, and you live as a POW as a result, you are some kind of HERO FOR LIFE and UNTOUCHABLE no matter what you do the rest of your life.

Sorry, but getting shot down and being a POW doesn’t make you a hero. Unlucky yes, hero no.

Hero’s are the guys that give up their lives fighting the enemy so their buddies can get away. Hero’s are the guys that throw themselves on a grenade to save their platoon. Hero’s run into a burning building to save people they don’t even know.

By calling everyone who gets a raw deal in a war a HERO cheapens the term.

And, in conclusion, he missed 43 votes. Hillary missed 3. Obama missed 3.

Dude, get a clue, your client is a politcal disaster."

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NashvilleLefty:

@viperlord

Incidentally I love it when they say "RINO."

Every time they try to marginalize someone with a mainstream position, thousands of Democratic votes are added.

The Democratic Party almost fell apart over desegregation, and lost its core region. Despite having a much more fair economic plan for the vast majority of the country, we have underperformed because the party tore itself apart.

When I read one of these wackjobs use the term "RINO," I think, "until they retire that term, and stop with the Stalin-esque ideological purges, they're going to be a permanent minority party." Cheers, "conservative movement!"

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Viperlord:

Nashville Lefty: That's true. They're failures and ideological purges are dragging them down, and until they rid themselves from the religious Far Right, they're sunk.

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AtlantaBill:

@boomshak:
"JUST READ HILARIOUS STORY FROM AP ON JOE BIDEN'S DAILY GAFFES"

Who gives a fart .. Biden's gaffes are just that, a gaffe. Let's instead talk about the moose hunter from alaska and her lack of any coherent message on any subject.

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blakec:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104494/Democrats-Significant-Identification-Image-Advantage.aspx

The 40% Democratic identification figure is unusually high. The last time 40% of Americans identified as Democrats was August 2000. Before that, there have been just a handful of Gallup Poll telephone surveys -- going back to 1985 -- in which 40% or more of Americans identified as Democrats. The highest Democratic identification in a Gallup telephone poll was 42% in July 1987.

The gap between Democratic and Republican identification -- now at 14 percentage points -- is also almost a record high. The gap was higher only in December 1998 -- immediately after President Bill Clinton had been impeached by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives -- when 41% of Americans identified as Democrats and only 20% as Republicans.

The highest level of identification with the Republican Party, 39%, has been reached at three points: in May 1991 (a few months after the first Persian Gulf War), December 2003 (in a poll in the field at the time of Saddam Hussein's capture), and September 2004 (after a successful Republican convention at which George W. Bush was nominated for a second term in office).

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Viperlord:
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zigmeister:

Boomshak is delusional. Makes my day!

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zigmeister:

Boomshak is delusional. Makes my day! :-)

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mj1:

As good as these polls may look, it's not done, till it's done. We need to run the score up to compensate for any effects Bradley or otherwise. LEAVE NO DOUBT! Let's get out there and keep working. Always be closing. Also, running the score up will help to garner that 60 seat super majority in the Senate and make sure they don't get a sniff in the House for the rest of our lives.

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blueboy2000:

Stupid question--what is McCain still doing here?

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CTPonix4BHObama:

So how much money do you think has been donated to the Obama campaign from Republicants trying to defraud Obamas donation system?

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