Florida Chamber of Commerce /
The Kitchens Group (D)
8/18-21/08; 605 LV, 4%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
McCain 42, Obama 39
voice/thoughtful said I am clown. Who's the clown? I didn't know Michelle was going to use comedy tonight to support her life long politician husband and life long politician running mate. I had to laugh when she said she cares about her kids. Does she txt them that she cares about them? They have been running for president for most of their kids lives. Do they still remember their names? Kudos, very funny.
Posted on August 25, 2008 10:49 PM
Damn I was close in my previous guess about how many times Michelle would mention love for our country. I guessed 7. It was only 6.
Posted on August 25, 2008 10:56 PM
Pretty weak attempt at dissing the Obamas. Oh no, politicians run for office a lot! Pity the poor children!
Posted on August 25, 2008 10:59 PM
How you managed to use humor as an argument against Michelle's use of humor is hypocritical at best. The Blog-o-sphere is now dumber because of this. Congratz.
Posted on August 25, 2008 11:03 PM
Not even the Mafia attacked the families of its enemies. Marctx is a dittohead dirtbag.
Posted on August 25, 2008 11:31 PM
When the families headline a night at the convention...
And the Mafia did not, but I recall certain supporters of a certain presidential candidate attacking a woman for the deeds of her husband.
Same people who cheered another candidate who did the same because he endorsed their candidate.
Posted on August 25, 2008 11:44 PM
marctx you make me sick. Absolutely sick. I'm disappointed that you are even allowed to vote.
Obama's oldest daughter is 10, he's been running for 1.5 years. Did you see that unscripted moment at the end? Your asinine ignorance and hatred makes me nauseous. Go f*ck yourself. Your comment should absolutely be banned, and so should mine, but I just had to swear. Because you make me want to vomit.
Shame. On. You.
Posted on August 25, 2008 11:50 PM
Alright Mike. Sorry to offend you. I'll request both comments be removed. The Obamas clearly love this country, she said it six times.
Posted on August 26, 2008 12:06 AM
This FL poll is the fourth in a row that shows the race there at 3 points or less. FL is a toss-up.
The good news for McCain is that he remains slightly ahead. The good news for Obama is that this poll has him down just 3 while getting just 70% of Democrats and just 84% of African-Americans. As in many other polls, he has more room for growth than does McCain. Ultimately, he will likely get at least 8 in 10 Dems and at least 9 in 10 African-Americans.
Also, this poll was taken before the Biden announcement. Biden may help Obama in FL due to its large number of seniors and Roman Catholics. He also has some FL connections.
FL will be very close.
Posted on August 26, 2008 12:11 AM
"One of the expedients of party to acquire influence, within particular districts, is to misrepresent the opinions and aims of other districts. You cannot shield yourselves too much against the jealousies and heart-burnings, which spring from these misrepresentations; they tend to render alien to each other those, who ought to be bound together by fraternal affection."
-George Washington's Farewell Address, Sept. 26, 1796.
This is supposed to be a website dedicated to discussing polls, not posting partisan rants on the top item so people will read them. Unfortunately, almost the entire blogosphere has become a pitiful self-parody of the First Amendment, this website among them.
Posted on August 26, 2008 12:46 AM
It's about Obama's incredible ground game.
The speech Obama gives on Thursday will be in front of a 80,000 person audience who will be using their cell-phones to build a volunteer base.
In the end, the Clinton supporters will be voting for Barack. Bill Clinton will be the key speech this week. He will give it to Mccain like no one else has ever before this campaign season. Joe Biden will just take his spot once the convention ends this week.
Posted on August 26, 2008 1:06 AM
The interesting thing to me about this poll is it being sponsored by the Florida CoC, a typically republican oriented group, while run through Kitchens firm, apparently Dem oriented?
Which way might the bias in this poll run?
Posted on August 26, 2008 1:46 AM
With a lot of these current polls showing that Obama is losing support, It seems that some of his supporters are in a state of denial. You see these entries that declare that the sample isn't large enough or the polling company is in cahoots with the republicans, etc. This could get worse.
Posted on August 26, 2008 2:58 AM
@player and marctx
Be careful for what you wish for. The polls are telling us that there is fertile ground for an up to 15% Obama convention bounce.
But more strikingly the polls are telling us that McCain is unelectable.
Denver Day nearly 2
Posted on August 26, 2008 3:34 AM
Another poll indicating a close race in FL with McCain with the edge at this point. Interestingly it is another poll showing Obama with a lead in the hispanic vote, (49-32 albeit with a large MOE). All the FL polls which release their cross-tabs have Obama either tied or leading with hispanics. Bush won the hispanic vote in 2004 by 12 point. If Obama wins the hispanic vote this year, Fl might well be a cliffhanger again.
Posted on August 26, 2008 3:51 AM
When Obama drops one point and McCain drops three (from the July CofC poll), such that the poll is now within the MOE, why is that bad news for Obama?
I'm sure someone will tell me, given that there are those who seem to think that all news is bad news for Obama.
Big turnout in FL=Obama win. Turnout=payback for 2000.
Bush/Cheney/GOP were given plenty of slack in '04 to wrap up the Iraq war. $1,000,000,000,000 later, was it worth it?
McDonald makes a good point (I do like the quote), but a site devoted to polling methods is likely to be of limited interest. I'm a partisan, but I try not to be an angry one. It's a hall of mirrors anyway. marctx could be an Obamista who's just trying to make R's seem bitter and cranky. If the tx stands for Texas, maybe that explains something--or nothing.
Posted on August 26, 2008 3:59 AM
To repeat what I said elsewhere -- it is very dangerous to play dice with history. And I've never seen how political discussion advances when people use discussion to score points rather than, well, discuss things. This ventilation of hatred and one-up-manship: I know it works on talk radio and Fox News, but really, how can a nation be a nation, how can it deliberate about its future, when hatred and resentment are accepted as bonafide motives for entering into political discussion, and the venting of hatred and resentment is the only end result? That, of course, and the political inertia that follows.
Posted on August 26, 2008 6:39 AM
So am I going to be called names because I thought it was really weird to have Obama's head appear on a really BIG screen with Michelle and the kids on stage? It reminded me of political parody.... or the Wizard of Oz.
Posted on August 26, 2008 9:10 AM
Getting back to this poll, the Hispanic numbers seem unlikely, despite the hardline approach by Republicans on the issue of immigration. Many Hispanics in FL are Cuban, and this vote tends to be conservative. McCain may have a slightly larger lead here than 3 points. Still, it remains close, and there are many undecideds still to be won.
Posted on August 26, 2008 11:08 AM
Nice words, you were making sense until you threw in talk radio and Fox News. You lefties as usual, do as I say, not as I do.......
Posted on August 26, 2008 11:19 AM
Wow, convo on this site is getting more and more off-topic. There should really be a moderation system of some sort.
With respect to the actual polls which is what we're here for, Florida continues to be a swing state within the MOE. Regardless of everything said above, at this point it could easily go either way. We still have the conventions, debates, and 3 months of political ads, speeches, and sound bytes.
Posted on August 26, 2008 1:33 PM
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