This is actually a weaker performance than what Obama had been performing recently in that state but Rasmussen has been more conservative in Obama's leads than other polling agencies so who knows.
PollPosition: McCain, Obama Tied In Georgia!
(6/19/08) A New InsiderAdvantage / PollPosition survey conducted June 18 of registered likely voters in the November presidential contest shows Sen. John McCain leading Sen. Barack Obama by a single point in Georgia, making the race in Georgia a statistical tie.
P.S: About Colorado, McCain is not moving, so I suspect people are moving to undecided but not to McSame. Look at the spread but also at where the spread comes from. Remember Pennsylvania, Hillary's numbers were a yo-yo, but Obama's didn't move that much. People said: Oh my god! this is getting tight, but in reality things were not changing that much. I want to see McSame numbers moving up.
I think what is really important are the numbers for the Senate seats. Democrats need to get enough votes to void GOP attempts to filibuster... no matter who is elected President.
Udall is also viewed favorably by 56% compared to 47% for Shaffer.
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Interestingly Favorable ratings for McCain is 54% and Obama is 50%. The "Very Unfavorable" ratings show McCain 18% and Obama at 31%... with which the latter Obama should be concerned.
Of course that Obama has more "very unfavorable" ratings that McCain. First, he just beat Hillary, making many old-white women mad, he is an African American who some people believe is a muslim, friend of terrorists. No politician is going to be loved by everyone,just ask Hillary, but you got to admit that Obama puts up with a lot of dirt. If unfavorable ratings were enough to keep a politician from running, Hillary would have not even thought about it. Her unfavorable are historic. The point is to get your people to the polls, How you do it? By galvanizing them, getting them excited, make them look forward to go to the polls, which is exactly the problem McCain has.
Bush was succesful in 2004 by exciting evangelicals. Evangelicals were so entusiasthic about Bush that they turnout in record numbers, making the difference in states like Ohio.
There you go again...cherry picking data to make a point that looks worse than it is, or says something worse than it really says.
You pointed out combination statistics for what you called favorability ratings, and then you cherry picked the very unfavorable line. The fact is that Obama has a 10 point lead in Very Favorable over McCain, and McCain is 13 points below Obama on Very Unfavorable. So people are both liking him more when they like him, and liking him less when they don't like him.
I should note that it is not uncommon for partisan Republicans (like yourself) to strongly dislike things about Democrats because it is more so (generally) a part of their style of politics to demonize their opponents and their policies.
The effect that you cherry picked is very common in these polls outside of Obama. Even in Massachusetts, the most recent Rasmussen poll of Kerry vs. Beatty or Ogonowski, Kerry leads with a 38 and 34 point margin respectively, but he has a higher Very Unfavorable rating over both. This is more common than it is not. It is not cause for concern, it is confirmation of a long-term trend in politics over many cycles.
What is unique however is the Very Favorable ratings of Obama in this election. This is not something that you would have expected to see until recently where he is leading the McCain by 10 points in a Colorado poll. This reflects the "enthusiasm gap" that has been discussed recently. Republicans in 2000 and 2004 were ahead in polling on this item. The reason for the drop of course is the broad dissatisfaction with Republicans, and especially GWB.
Your type of numbers play doesn't belong here. It's not honest, and it's clearly meant to be that way because it is constant.
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what the hec... must be obama week
Posted on June 19, 2008 4:43 PM
This is actually a weaker performance than what Obama had been performing recently in that state but Rasmussen has been more conservative in Obama's leads than other polling agencies so who knows.
Posted on June 19, 2008 6:23 PM
Let's see if Obama supporters will complain about the methodology, sample number, etc., of this particular Rasmussen that has Obama up in this state.
They were whining about McCain being ahead of him in Florida.
Posted on June 19, 2008 7:07 PM
Breaking News!!!!!!
PollPosition: McCain, Obama Tied In Georgia!
(6/19/08) A New InsiderAdvantage / PollPosition survey conducted June 18 of registered likely voters in the November presidential contest shows Sen. John McCain leading Sen. Barack Obama by a single point in Georgia, making the race in Georgia a statistical tie.
P.S: About Colorado, McCain is not moving, so I suspect people are moving to undecided but not to McSame. Look at the spread but also at where the spread comes from. Remember Pennsylvania, Hillary's numbers were a yo-yo, but Obama's didn't move that much. People said: Oh my god! this is getting tight, but in reality things were not changing that much. I want to see McSame numbers moving up.
Posted on June 19, 2008 7:32 PM
I think what is really important are the numbers for the Senate seats. Democrats need to get enough votes to void GOP attempts to filibuster... no matter who is elected President.
Udall is also viewed favorably by 56% compared to 47% for Shaffer.
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Interestingly Favorable ratings for McCain is 54% and Obama is 50%. The "Very Unfavorable" ratings show McCain 18% and Obama at 31%... with which the latter Obama should be concerned.
Posted on June 19, 2008 8:48 PM
Of course that Obama has more "very unfavorable" ratings that McCain. First, he just beat Hillary, making many old-white women mad, he is an African American who some people believe is a muslim, friend of terrorists. No politician is going to be loved by everyone,just ask Hillary, but you got to admit that Obama puts up with a lot of dirt. If unfavorable ratings were enough to keep a politician from running, Hillary would have not even thought about it. Her unfavorable are historic. The point is to get your people to the polls, How you do it? By galvanizing them, getting them excited, make them look forward to go to the polls, which is exactly the problem McCain has.
Bush was succesful in 2004 by exciting evangelicals. Evangelicals were so entusiasthic about Bush that they turnout in record numbers, making the difference in states like Ohio.
Posted on June 19, 2008 9:04 PM
Carl29 pretends he's happy about the Georgia poll, with a 408 voters sample. Wasn't he whining about Rasmussen's 500 voters sample being too small?
Oh, the hypocrisy.
Posted on June 19, 2008 9:55 PM
There is movement and that is good news. I want to see other polls from Georgia of course. But this is good for Barack.
Posted on June 19, 2008 10:14 PM
@Whinerberry
There you go again...cherry picking data to make a point that looks worse than it is, or says something worse than it really says.
You pointed out combination statistics for what you called favorability ratings, and then you cherry picked the very unfavorable line. The fact is that Obama has a 10 point lead in Very Favorable over McCain, and McCain is 13 points below Obama on Very Unfavorable. So people are both liking him more when they like him, and liking him less when they don't like him.
I should note that it is not uncommon for partisan Republicans (like yourself) to strongly dislike things about Democrats because it is more so (generally) a part of their style of politics to demonize their opponents and their policies.
The effect that you cherry picked is very common in these polls outside of Obama. Even in Massachusetts, the most recent Rasmussen poll of Kerry vs. Beatty or Ogonowski, Kerry leads with a 38 and 34 point margin respectively, but he has a higher Very Unfavorable rating over both. This is more common than it is not. It is not cause for concern, it is confirmation of a long-term trend in politics over many cycles.
What is unique however is the Very Favorable ratings of Obama in this election. This is not something that you would have expected to see until recently where he is leading the McCain by 10 points in a Colorado poll. This reflects the "enthusiasm gap" that has been discussed recently. Republicans in 2000 and 2004 were ahead in polling on this item. The reason for the drop of course is the broad dissatisfaction with Republicans, and especially GWB.
Your type of numbers play doesn't belong here. It's not honest, and it's clearly meant to be that way because it is constant.
Posted on June 19, 2008 10:31 PM
Enough of your bullying... brambster. Stick to the statistics and quit harassing other posters.
Posted on June 20, 2008 12:57 PM
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