US: 2012 Pres (PPP 8/14-17)
Emily Swanson | August 20, 2009
Public Policy Polling (D)
8/14-17/09; 909 likely voters, 3.3% margin of error
Mode: IVR
(PPP release)
National
Obama Job Approval (chart)
52% Approve, 42% Disapprove
Favorable / Unfavorable
Newt Gingrich: 33 / 42
Mike Huckabee: 45 / 28 (chart)
Sarah Palin: 40 / 49 (chart)
Mitt Romney: 37 / 34 (chart)
2012 President
Obama 49%, Gingrich 41%
Obama 47%, Huckabee 44%
Obama 52%, Palin 38%
Obama 47%, Romney 40%
By Emily Swanson | August 20, 2009 11:28 AM | Permalink | Comments (12) | TrackBacks (0)
Comments
Scratching my head at the Obama 47%, Huckabee 44% number. How could he have six points on Palin, I figured they're after the same exact voting bloc. Poll definitely shows that Obama is at his most vulnerable time since being in office, but looking at the crosstabs, this poll essentially shows that we're currently sitting exactly where we were in November 2008, when Obama won 52.9% of the vote to McCain's 45.6%.
Crosstabs show 91% approval of Obama with people who voted for Obama, and 84% disapproval with people who voted for McCain. After the honeymoon McCain voters came home, which is what's happened to Obama's job approval numbers.
same voting bloc but Huckabee has less exposure and has been less of a polarizing figure than Palin despite similar policies. Funny though at the potential list of republican candidates. I'd expect none of those faces to beat Obama in an incumbent position especially since 3 represent in some way the religious wing of the party.
Most people don't really know much about Huckabee's platform. Assuming he ran on the same ideas next time, his ideas of abolishing the IRS would probably prove popular, but his goal of establishing the bible as the "ultimate law" of America--which he has mentioned, numerous times-- would lose him the votes of anyone who isn't evangelical.
To be honest, Huckabee as the Republican nominee would be a godsend for Obama. A 2012 election with those two wouldn't be remotely close. The one Democrats are nervous about is Romney. He's the closest thing they have to a moderate that can appeal to moderate and conservative Democrats. Unfortunately for him, the conservative base of their party will probaby eat him alive in the primaries.
The GOP nominated a so-called moderate in 2008, McCain and it did not work. The GOP needs to nominate a conservative. It takes a conservative to contrast against a liberal (Obama). If the GOP puts forth another moderate they will lose.
Reagan won twice running as a conservative, Bush sr. won running as a conservative...would have won twice if not for his read my lips moment. Bush won twice running as a conservative, thugh he didn't actually govern as one.
Based on the numbers from Gallup, 40% of the american people consider themselves conservative. Also according to Gallup conservatives outnumber liberals in all 50 states.
If the GOP actually becomes a conservative party again and nominates a conservative they will win back some of those battleground states.
Too bad Gallup also found that 27 states are left leaning right now as opposed to three right leaning ones.
There is conservative and then there is what it means to be republican. The republican brand is so tarnished to not even resemble conservatism anymore that I would hardly expect any of these candidates to represent it even if they had a Whoopi Goldberg moment from "Ghost" channeling Ronald Regan. I expect it will take a 2nd term of office for Obama (even fallen from grace) for the Republicans to finally rebrand themselves on certain policies and issues.
I guess I rest my case.
@RHiraku
That is because the inbetweeners were drifting away from Bush, which moved them left. Looking at polling, Indy's are moving back to the right. As most polls have Obama getting under 50 now with the Indy's....and they aare what tilt the battleground states.
If the Indy's are starting to get irritated with all the stuff going on, GM take over, bail outs, cash for clunkers, national health care, etc...then they will continue to drift away fro mthe president making those battlegrounds which leaned left in 2008 turn around and lean right. States like OH, FL, etc lean left or right on any given election cycle.
Obama won't be able to capitalize in 2012 on the anti Bush vote, that will have faded away by 2012...and with the right candidate all thsoe conservatives who didn't vote in 2008 will indeed show up in 2012.
Yet another worthless poll.
Palin and Gingrich have negatives too high to win an election. Huckabee and Romney both ran last time and came up short. There is a big difference in losing a primary and losing a primary to an incumbent a la Reagan in 76. If you pose a serious challenge to an incumbent Pres you are not branded a loser.
It's time for someone new.
Why do they keep polling on Palin and birthers? They are both dead issues. Palin won't get elected in 2012 and BO is the Pres until then.
And I just love poll questions like would you support the congressional health care bill without the public option. If you say no does that mean you want the public option or you don't want the congressional bill with or without it? Who knows.
Look I dont expect any of these to win the nomination. Here is my list of Republicans who I believe will get the nomination.
- soon to be Senator Charlie Crist
-Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota
-Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia
-Senator John Thune of North Dakota
- soon to be Governor Bob McDonnel of Virginia
Although I dont think any of them can beat Obama (any of the candidates in this poll would just cause a '96 repeat) but I think they could all put up a good fight. But definently Romney for VP.
Those numbers are kind of low for Obama. The only matchup where he reaches the same percentage as his approval rating is Obama vs. Palin...
Posted on August 20, 2009 11:50 AM