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US: Ethics in Politics (Gallup 11/20-22)


Gallup
11/20-22/09; 1,017 adults, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Gallup release)

National

Gallup:

For the first time in Gallup's annual Honesty and Ethics of Professions poll, a majority of Americans -- 55% -- say the honesty and ethical standards of "members of Congress" are low or very low -- slightly worse than "senators," whose ethics are rated low by 49%. By contrast, 83% of Americans say nurses have either very high or high ethical standards, positioning them at the top of Gallup's 2009 ranking of various professions.

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A similar pattern occurred in the early 1990s, spanning a series of scandals starting with the "Keating Five" and the related savings and loan crisis, the House banking scandal, and the House post office scandal that resulted in the conviction of Rep. Dan Rostenkowski in 1996. However the percentage "low"/"very low" rating during that period topped out at 46% in 1995, lower than today's figure. For most of the past two decades, more Americans have typically said the ethical standards of members of Congress are low than have called them high. However, the spread between these two views is now the widest seen.

 

Comments
Stillow:

Now that the Dems control congress again the people think less of congress. How precious is that.

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Farleftandproud:

No, Stillow isn't correct in the respect I would like to ask people to look back at the approval of congress in 2005 and 2006 as well, and the GOP was in charge then. I would say that the American public though is a tough group of people to please, and 401 K's went down and there were tremendous job losses the last year of the Bush presidency. I can't prove anything, but had Mccain won, I seriously don't think things would be better. I think Mccain would have come out with a recovery program as well. He would have refused in the beginning, but after contant job losses the American people would have demanded it. There is a human reaction for people to turn against the party in control. The reasons aren't always rational, but I am certain that Mccain would have likely done a bailout of GM and a stimulus package, and if it didn't improve his approval ratings, than he would have blamed the Democrats. It is easy for Republicans to talk the talk, but so far they have had no viable solution for turning the economy around.

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Wong:

It is not a partisan problem. It is an institutional one. Never has corporate cronyism been more pervasive. Consider the example that 30 GOP senators voted against the Franken Amendment which allowed American women working for private contractors overseas to seek redress for rape or sexual assault. Deciding that a business contract is more important than a woman's right to be safe from rape, the GOP has become the party of "no" to everything except a woman's right to say so..

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Field Marshal:

The Franken amendment is garbage. Why should a person be able to sue the company they work for just because she happened to get attacked OUTSIDE the working confines of that company?

Should i be able to sue my employer if, while going to lunch, i get mugged by an assailant walking downtown? Its a ridiculous sham aimed at just one company. Franken should go back to doing what he does best which is nothing.

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obamalover:

@ FM

The Republican Party: Standing up for rape victims since... never.

I just can't figure out why women prefer the Democratic party over the GOP...

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Stillow:

Ya I think I might sue my employer too if I get in a car wreck while going to lunch. Dems can be such morons at times.

I love how you Dems call this poll meaningless, tis an institutional problem....but if the GOP were in power, you'd all be on top of this...it'd be page 1 of the NYT and being touted as a need for change.

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Xenobion:

She was on business FM. You can always sue during offical business.

Lunch is not offical business unless you're actually at a business lunch. You have no premise to sue unless its a company vechile and have some sort of complaint about that. All parties in this discussion are really oversimplifying this issue. Stop being dumb about it. Site visits are offical bussiness trips. She has a case, to deny her ability to sue is the problem here, not whether or not she has a case, which she obviously does. Franken amendment is apt.

And Stillow this poll includes a reference to the Keating 5 scandale which included McCain. Noone has been "all over that." Pragmatically I think both Dems and most Republicans recognize that both parties have their ethical problems. There's nothing partisan about it.

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Farleftandproud:

It was ashame that only 10 GOP senators voted for the ammendment allowing American women working for private contractors overseas to seek redress for rape or sexual assault. Deciding that a business contract is more important than a woman's right. I do think maybe Al Franken even though he had good intentions wasn't the right person to introduce the bill. I think he just may be the most unpopular Democratic senator among Republicans. I know that Democrats are less likely to support a bill when it is a disliked senator like James Inhofe, than if it is introduced by someone more rational like Kaye Huchinson. I think this poll is a outrage on the unpartisan climate we have seen for the past 4 years. It has worsened since Obama's win. THe reason for this is Bush's lack of popularity failure in his last 4 years of office brought other politicians down. I think Democrats are guilty too of losing the voters trust, starting with their support for getting us into Iraq. That was the beginning of the downward spiral. Obama is paying the price for all of this, but he decided to take this job and he has to be the one to stimulate trust in American politics. Just to be fair, the GOP needs to find their conservative voice who has experience and win new followers like Reagan did. I don't see where John Boehner, Mitch Mcconnell and Boehner are going to take on that roll.

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Stillow:

X - The K5 were all Dems except Mccain who is barely a republican.

So I understand. If for work I run to the post office....and a gunman breaks in while I am there and he mugs me and spray paints obama on my forehead I can sue my employer? So its the employers fault and not the muggers?

Thats is kind like the guy who breaks into your house, cut shis leg on your broken window he came thru and then sues you for medical bills.

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Xenobion:

She was raped by her co-workers. Do you not get that? These are people with direct authority over her, and using their position of power on company time to systematically rape her warrants her ability to sue them. If you use your position and professional relationship to rape one of your co-workers the corporation can be sued for various reasons that are quite legitimate. I suggest you look up Jamie Leigh Jones and her story its quite grizzly.

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Stillow:

X - from what I read it was not at the work place. If while at that post office a co worker comes in and kicks my butt, I can sue my employer now? You want to punish an employer for the actions of an indidiual beyond the companys control?

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Field Marshal:

@OL,

And the last time the Dems stuck up for business and capitalism? Answer: Never.

@Rest with stable minds:

I realize this but it was not during working hours. It was outside of work from what i understood. The guys should be behind bars for the rest of their lives. But to sue the employer because they did not protect her from co-workers? I think thats a stretch. If i worked in any business and went to dinner someplace else and got raped by a co-worker OFF PREMISES, why should i have any recourse against the employer?

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Field Marshal:

Correct Stillow. This is just another attempt at the far left to punish businesses and anyone with a tie to Iraq or national defense.

These guys should be put away for a long time. But now we can sue employers for what their employees do outside of work? That's just crazy. No way the Supreme Court upholds this in half a decade.

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Xenobion:

If your boss uses their position to rape you it becomes a work related offense. Pretty simple.

I don't think you guys understand that her ability to due process was taken away. Whether or not there the company is guilty is one thing, but to not have any due process right in the matter is a serious attack on rights.

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ChicagoKid:

This is an institutional issue, it is does not have to with GOP or Dem.

It was a bad bill, maked sense to reject it. If Dems care they would have pushed a bill of that importance alone without attaching on to it.

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Stillow:

X - I just want to make sure I understand your logic on this one. So if after hours my boss comes and beats me up or soemthing, I shoudl be able to sue my employer for millions of dollars? Your putting the blame o nthe employer and not the boss who beat me up outside working hours?????????? Help me understand your logic here.

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Xenobion:

My logic is that someone should have their right to sue their employer if they feel as if they have been wronged by their employer, just like you have the right in any other case. This woman was denied even a trial.

And yes if you use the business as a method of blackmailing someone into sex/information/whatever you've crossed the line and now the corporation is able to be at fault. That's why people sue corporations for sexual harrassment. If she documented and complained about her treatment they can be at fault for not fixing the situation.

As you can see it matters in the details. It could be a completely civil issue if none of that occured. I realize this woman was raped by co-workers. I would be interested to know how they forced her.

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Thaddeus:

When people aim to undermine support and trust in the government in all of it's forms, it should surprise anyone that the trust in congress goes down too. If taken with other polls that show that people have much greater trust in Dems in congress, I'd be careful with the boasting about dems being in power as this goes down.

Also, I believe the amendment was more about using contracts to sign away your ability to sue your employer about anything. It highlighted this case, but with the contract written the way it was her boss could have on the job, locked her in a shipping container, denied her food and water, posted armed guards to make sure she didn't break out, confiscated and destroyed medical evidence collected by a army physician, until a diplomat from the state department came to free her. Oh, wait that's actually what happened. But I guess as long as the rape happened off hours, the bosses cover-up is similar to a burglar breaking into your house.

If we take the same stance, hospitals could just have patients sign a contract that releases away all legal liability of the hospital before in order to receive care. I guess we don't even need malpractice insurance.

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obamalover:

@FM

You mean the capitalism that smashed our economy to smithereens? Yes lets have more of that unregulated mess you call capitalism.

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Xenobion:

Brilliant Thaddeus.

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Field Marshal:

"You mean the capitalism that smashed our economy to smithereens? Yes lets have more of that unregulated mess you call capitalism."

So one recession means capitalism is a failure? Uhhh, i believe socialism has been tried and failed much more harshly many many times. I'll take capitalism any day of the week.

Our unemployment rate at 10% is where the socialistic countries' are during BOOM times. Plus, they have anemic growth during those same boom times.

So yeah, that capitalism that resulted in a whopping 3 quarters of negative growth. I realize you want a system to be infallible but i know better. Capitalism is the worst for of economic system except all the rest. Where have heard that before? lol!

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Wong:

Thaddeus,

That's the heart of the matter. Republicans are the party of "no" to everything,.. but rape.

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saywhat90:

FM, once again you are wrong. Countries who have more socialistic governments that our have better unemployment rates then we do right now. I checked.This myth that socialism has failed in every form is simply a right wing nonsense talking point. What causes a system to fail is not the system but the corruption of the system. Any system is subject to failure. Lastly you can have capitalist economy in a tyrannical government just like you can have a socialist economy in a democratic government.Saudi Arabia is very capitalistic in terms of economy but they do not have a democracy there.

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