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US: Health Care, Afghanistan (Fox 10/13-14)


Fox News / Opinion Dynamics
10/13-14/09; 900 registered voters, 3% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Fox: Afghanistan, Health Care)

National

Based on what you know about the health care reform legislation being considered right now, do you favor or oppose the plan?
35% Favor, 54% Oppose (chart)

Which would you prefer -- the current health care system or the health care plan proposed by the Democrats in Congress?
51% current, 34% Democrats' plan

Obama Job Approval / Disapproval
Afghanistan: 41 / 43

Do you think the Obama administration has clearly explained what the United States is trying to achieve in Afghanistan?
26% Yes, 67% No

Do you support or oppose sending additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan?
46% Support, 46% Oppose

 

Comments
RAG2:

Interesting that Fox did not poll people on the specific aspects of health-care reform being debated--guaranteed issue, public option, subsidies, mandates, and various financing methods? Could it be because the specifics tend to be much more popular than "the plan" in vague general terms, and Fox doesn't want a poll that shows health-care reform to be popular?

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BH:

RAG are you making this demand of all pollsters, because as far as I can tell, few if any meet this criteria...or is it you just don't like Fox News?

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Field Marshal:

Actually Rag, a couple of polls ago, they did do this. It showed support for the public option but another question asked if they would rather have the public option or private insurance for health care coverage. ARound 75% said private.

It seems people want the public option but don't want to USE the public option. My guess is that they want the competition to lower their own premiums.

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Field Marshal:

Here is that poll.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/091709_poll.pdf

question 23.

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RAG2:

Yes, I DO make that demand of ALL pollsters. But Fox, for all its claims of being "fair and balanced", has an axe to grind with Democratic concepts like health-care-for-all.

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RAG2:

PS. Republicans are always saying they're for Universal Health Care (UHC) too--just not the way Dems want it. But if they REALLY favored UHC, they would have all gotten behind a comprehensive alternative bill, and had the Congression Budget Office rate it, so they could claim they had something at least as effective in reducing the number of uninsured and cost of care over a reasonable time period.

Why then, haven't they? Some have actually bragged that it's more politically expedient to simply trash every Dem plan than offer any of their own. The answer is simple: Reps believe that gov't should never guarantee anybody anything (except national defense and law enforcement); to them, "entitlement" is a dirty word. Their kind opposed Social Security--and tried only 4 years ago to "privatize" it--and they opposed Medicare/Medicaid.

Besides, they know that if Dems successfully passed UHC legislation--or anything that significantly reduced the ranks of uninsured and HC costs--it would have the same political effect as SS and Medicare/Medicaid--it would strengthen the "liberal" argument for people collectively using the power of gov't to improve their lives and each other's lives, and weaken the "conservative" argument that personal welfare should be solely a matter of personal responsibility. It would pave the way for more progressive reform to alleviate inequality using gov't regulation, and set their efforts to "privatize" the social safety net for decades!

The fact is, a successful health-care bill would shift the political center of gravity leftward--the way FDR's New Deal did--and force them to, once again, abandon Gilded-Age philosophy--and become a wider tent, like they did between 1952 and 1976. Can't have none of that!

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BH:

"PS. Republicans are always saying they're for Universal Health Care (UHC) too--just not the way Dems want it."

Yeah, well it was the Dems who blocked Republican efforts to expand and overhaul Medicare just a few years ago so that hyporcisy just doesn't wash.

And after reading your posts RAG you've clearly demonstrated a partisan bent and a lack objectivity. In fact, if you were truly serious about the purity in polling you'd note the atrocious over sampling of Dems. and Indp. in CBS' abd CNN's polling.

Instead, it's just a constant complaint against the party and networks you don't like.

Now that's perfect fine, but it's not exactly helpful to your original arguments.

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LordMike:

Apparently, fox News only pols its viewers. Even biased Rasmuseen gives much better numbers for health care. These numbers aren't even credible compared to other polls out there. Fox's polling has been generally fair overall, although their last national survey had some incredibly unusual sampling... We'll have to see if these outliers become more standard with them, or someone will have to start wondering if they are putting their thumbs on the scale.

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Healthcare the world over seems much more of an illusion, for far too many people that need it. My company http://www.smilemd.com is right now securing doctors and dentists for voluntary free clinics, for all those uninsureds throughout the USA, who still will not have insurance coverage, even after the dust settles on the great healthcare debate.

The irony of the issue that's left out of these debates we’re fighting this very moment is that most people in this country die from viruses that are freely contracted. Whatever then will all your money buy?

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