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US: Health Care (Gallup 11/5-8)


Gallup
11/5-8/09; 1,008 adults, 3% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Gallup release)

National

Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure all Americans have health care coverage, or is that not the responsibility of the federal government?
47% Government responsibility, 50% Not government responsibility

Which of the following approaches for providing health care in the United States would you prefer -- replacing the current health care system with a new government run health care system, or maintaining the current system based mostly on private health insurance?
32% Replacing the current system, 61% Maintaining the current system

 

Comments
Stillow:

You libs have your work cut out for you if your end goal is single payer...only 32 percent want to replace the private carrier system.

Don't forget to buy coverage or go to jail!!!

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Xenobion:

I would look at the wording "prefer." I would not confuse that with "do not want." You can clearly see its divided practically 50/50 thinking the government should provide healthcare just as it always has been polled before it was 60/40 in favor about 5 months ago.

The second question is misleading in that the current plan in the House wouldn't completely replace the pre-existing system.

Third the House Bill was not a "Single Payer" system so I don't know what you're getting at.

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Farleftandproud:

It is not surprising but scary just the same, just how many American seniors are buying these myths. Medicare Advantage had serious problems and wasted lots of money. What Obama needs to make clear is all the wasted money in the previous 8 years, which the GOP continues to deny. Again I do have to give the GOP the award for best marketing skills. They can turn lies into truths and make people believe them.

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Farleftandproud:

It is not surprising but scary just the same, just how many American seniors are buying these myths. Medicare Advantage had serious problems and wasted lots of money. What Obama needs to make clear is all the wasted money in the previous 8 years, which the GOP continues to deny. Again I do have to give the GOP the award for best marketing skills. They can turn lies into truths and make people believe them.

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Farleftandproud:

I know deep in the heart of a majority of Americans they want a better health care system and a public option. Some people just give up too easily. Sen Nelson from Nebraska, Lieberman, Landreu and others who delay reform will not be re-elected. Democrats need to vote in the Senate. If a fillubuster happens, it will be quite telling when we see neo-cons stretching the truth, and defending Medicare, a government program while excepting the status quo is okay. The status quo is not okay. Progressives need a huge ad blitz during the fillibuster on the networks. This is a war we cannot lose. Fighting for health care is the biggest battle OUr country has fought and needs to continue fighting since World War 2.

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Farleftandproud:

It's the government's responsibility to try their hardest to provide health coverage to all American citizens. Whether or not people will want it or allow the government to help them out, I think that is their choice. We don't need to have government health care, but as was the case in MASS. new laws mandate businesses to provide health coverage and they have private insurance that you have to pay for, but a huge break for the struggling working, middle classes and those who are not fully employed. With our job picture as rough as it is, what better time to pass a health care plan. Obama will be tested this next year on improving the job picture, but a slow economy is not a good excuse to delay reform. I am convinced the job picture will worsen as long as the status quo continues in our health system. If 25 percent of Texas lets say is uninsured clinics will create new jobs for people in health services.

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Stillow:

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Its not secret liberals want singl payer and they think a g'ment public option is the first step to getting to single payer. Obama is on tape saying he wants single payer and knows it will take several years to get there. And polling I have seen shows 2 to 1 people do not want single payer. Overwhelming majoirites are happy with there current coverage and would like that current system to be improved, not taken over by g'ment.

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Wong:

Single payer is just a matter of time in this country. An enlightened youth and changing demographics all but make it inevitable. For profit health care will eventually wind up in the ash can of history,much the same as slavery, Jim Crow laws and child labor. Occasionally, a majority of Americans are on the wrong side of history. But not for long.

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Stillow:

Riiiiiiight. Is it reuired for some of you libs to heavily medicate everymorning to help you actually post soem of the things you post?

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Field Marshal:

Those "enlightened youths" eventually grow up and gain wisdom and experience and realize that they DO NOT WANT a single payer system.

Defined benefit ponzi schemes are on the way out worldwide.

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Xenobion:

You can only hold on to Churchill quotes about being old and conservative for so long to expect people to understand how our general health compared to any other Industrialized Country absolutely blows.

Obama took the single payer stance early in the pres debates to align himself with Hillary as a political tactic. I think he generally stands for universal healthcare and could care less if the Government is a single payer or not. He's too pragmatic to care about such specifics really. People tend oversimplify things caught on tape like Anita Dunn, ect.

Anyways, there is no single payer system. You misinterpreted the poll. The house bill is not a single payer system. If you're speaking of a single payer system decades from now that's one thing but not now.

You Conservatives got to figure out that the rest of the freaking world doesn't do what we do and are healthier for it.

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Stillow:

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Lets see, america is the last remaining super power on earth....so I'd say we have been doing something right in our way of live and our system of doing things seems to be pretty darn good if you want to compare it to the rest of the world.

G'ment option is ntohing more than step one to single payer. 80 - 85 percent of americans like what we have now......so X show me another thing that many people agree on??

You dems always underestimate the genius of the individual. I know you would love noting more than for all of us to be stupid and totally dependent,but most of us enjoy our freedom...most of us beleive the american way to be the best way.....with all due respect, I don't want to be like the frogs in France. France is so patehtic they cannot even defend themselves anymore.

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Xenobion:

That's the whole point. The American way is obviously not the best because it is one of the most poorly preforming healthcare systems in the world. We pay 2-4x the amount any other Industrialized Country does on healthcare, work longer weeks, and die younger than all of them just because its fiscally cheap to not have a universal system.

Its easy to take a blind eye towards people who have no care because its simply not your problem. Common decency for your fellow man is dead because its always about the individual, greed is good, ect. You say you're free but that's only because you can afford your freedom while others cannot.

People do not like the system. People like myself work full time jobs but have absolutely no private medical insurance. If I get hurt I hope I can get the care that I need and then file bankruptcy and ruin the rest of my life. What a great, freedom loving system we live in.

Its fun to gamble with your life, because that's what people as unforuntate as I do every day despite contributing to society. But hey, your health is important to you and mine threatens yours apparently.

The system is broken beyond belief.

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LordMike:

"Those "enlightened youths" eventually grow up and gain wisdom and experience and realize that they DO NOT WANT a single payer system."

Until they become senior citizens and say, "Do not touch my single payer Medicare system! I love it!"

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Stillow:

X...thats factually incorrect. Polling shows over 80 percent of americans like there insurance just fine. Yes, I can afford my freedom and want everyone to be in my position. Which is why g'ment should get the hell out of the way so we can bring everyone up, instead of everyone down. We are the most prosperous nation on earth and enjoy the highest standard of living. I was stationed in Kuwaitt for two years, trust me, even our poor in this country are way beter off than the middle class of most other countires.

Private insuranceshould be made accessible to everyone....not removed and replaced with a g'ment run option. read your history book, do you know how many times governments in the planets history of enslaved its people by simply telling them to trust us. Even an elected g'ment can be opressive and become a tyrany....which is why htis country was founded on limited g'ment.

This is a fundamental difference between people....you think I want people to get sick and die? I rpobably give more to charity than most people do on this site....but the answer is not to make people dependent....anytime you are dependent on g'ment,you are a slave to that g'ment. This attack on private business must stop, they are people like you and me who work at these businesses.

This country is where it is because of certain principles, if you begin to trade those principles for dependency, then we have nothing but ashell of a country.

You liberals love western Europe, guess what? You are free, feel free to move there and take part in there wonderful society. Sip your french whine and eat your cheese....I really do not care. You libs constantly call our health care system and our system in general a failure when compared to everyone else...no sir, it is the oppositte....we are the envy of the world. If we opened our doors tomorrow to everyone who wanted to come here, we'd probably get 80 percent of the planet flocking here.

It all comes down to the individual acting in self intrest....there is nothing wrong with acting in self intrest, I work my tail off for all the things I have....and quite frankly for the guy down the street who is fat and lazy and doesn't want to work, I say screw him. I could care less if he starves...but I want g'ment out of the way of those who do want to work and who do want to better themselves by there own hand, not by the good graces of g'ment.

The history of the world shows us not to trust g'ment. You should always be suspicious and keep it under control.I will not forfeit my fundamental God given right of freedom in exchange for the bare bones necessities of life that I may or may not receive on any given day from my g'ment.

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Xenobion:

No matter how hard I work, no matter how well I do my job I will not get private medical insurance. I will either die or go bankrupt trying not to die. This system is awesome, even better in a recession where if I wanted to even try to get a job that gave me those benefits, I'd probably die trying.

Government is the reason we have minimum wage, no child labor, no slavery, ect. Why we have roads, a military, electricity, medical care when we retire, ect.

People treat this healthcare debate like its going to take over their life but its nothing more than a person coming up to you and saying, "You're not worth preserving, and anything you might do to get out of the situation, well goodluck, you'll need it."

I pay into the system, I pay taxes, my employer gives me nothing healthcare wise. Hell, lets get rid of private healthcare groups and just sign up for INDIVIDUAL plans! The individual triumphs once again! 5 million dollar premiums for Cancer! 500 Dollars for a Dentist visit. It all makes sense now, the individual will conquer everything by himself! Why didn't I know this before?!!!!

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Stillow:

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Then the g'ment should cut the taxes on your employer in exchange for providing you with medical coverage. G'ment should provide incentive for business to offer benefits. Our corporte tax rate is the second highest in the world. Tell these companies we will cut there taxes and they can direct that money to benefit programs, medical care, 401k plans, etc.

You are under the impression that g'ment has your best intrest in mind and will take care of your every need. How about a vocher for people like you who are working, but maybe cannot afford a plan? The g'ment can send you a voucher to pay for part or all of the cost of a private plan....it would costs us hundreds of billions less to do that....and we would retain choice. In a single payer, if the g'ment says no, thats it, game over for you.

G'ment is actually the cause of most of the problems you liberals wish to solve. Punitive taxation on businesses prohibit those businesses from offering higher salaries and better benefits. If you poll top companies and why they tend to offer low salary increases, most of them will tell you its because they cannot afford the matching payroll taxes they have to pay.

Provide tax cuts to these companies in exhcnage for offering better beenfit plans. I went to a business conference and there were something like 60 CEO's from around the country and every single one of them said they would love to offer better benefits and do more for ther eemployees, but g'ment regulations and taxes are so budensome it makes it very difficult.

I would urge you not to turn your back on the reason this country was founded. Western Europe pays a very high price for there socialism...they lack the ability to defend themselves and even during good eocnomies they regularlyrun double digit unemployment.

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Bigmike:

Farleftandproud:

"It's the government's responsibility to try their hardest to provide health coverage to all American citizens. "

I need a little help finding that in the constitution. Can you point me to the correct article.

Not only is it not the govt responsibility, it is not a power given to the govt by the constitution.

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saywhat90:

Stillow:
England,Italy and Germany all have single digit unemployment right. We don't. In fact Germany has 7.7 and England has 7.9 percent umemplyment. Even some eastern european countries have single digit employment. Bulgaria is 7.6 and the Czech Republic is at and even 7. This myth that is perpetuated about how europe is so much worse off than we are is just that a myth.

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saywhat90:

Nor does the constitution say that the government can't make health care their responsibility. I agree that it's not the government responsiblity to make health care better for all americans, but if the people(and I did say if) ask their government to interevene on their behalf then I say have at it hoss.

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Xenobion:

Why would my employer ever volunteer health care coverage for me when they got me by the balls now? I'm a non-unionized worker that has no bargaining power over my position and its benefits. Greed is good and it would be any cut-throat business best interest to lower their bottom line rather than offer me medical care.

I have a normal well paying job but who can afford disaster care? I mean I make decent money but how am I supposed to afford a cancer treatment on a voucher? Cobra care is ridiculous if you have it. Individual plans are as well.

People don't seem to get that normal hard working Americans have no ability to buy their own healthcare if they are self-employed or are suckers that just don't have healthcare at their position. Yeah I bet 85% of Americans who have healtchare love it and don't want it to change because they really know how lucky they are to have it when so many don't.

In the end healthcare becomes a privilege and not a right and it really shows our interests in this Country.

I'm frankly in favor of ANYTHING healthcarewise, because when you've got nothing, you'll take what you can get. Who can afford an extra 10,000 dollars of their salary for an individual plan? Not even some very well established middle class families could afford that if they were in that predicament.

Stillow I don't expect the government to take care of me, but when my employer won't take care of me either for the work I do it seriously becomes a problem. I can only take care of my own health for so long before I actually need a doctor, or something. Healthcare is a tragedy and only available to those privileged to have decent care from their employers.

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