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US: Health Care (Gallup 8/6-9)


Gallup
8/6-9/09; 1,010 adults, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Gallup story)

National

Would you advise your member of Congress to vote for or against a healthcare reform bill when they return to Washington in September?

35% Vote for, 36% Vote against
Republicans: 10 / 66
Democrats: 59 / 10

 

Comments
Wong:

These numbers are a much cleaner reflection of public opinion. Interesting enough that 3 out of 10 Dems and 2-3 outof 10 Reps are undecided. In spite of the increase in decibel volume against a bill, there is no corresponding increase in hardening opposition.

Of course, Ras #'s don't agree, but it is there task to match the numbers with the volume. A blind man could see what they are up to

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ThatMarvelousApe:

538 had an interesting article about how confusion over health care proposals can lead to such drastically different poll results: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/08/not-all-socialist-countries-are-alike.html

Basically, people don't want the government providing "health care" (as with the British system), but they like the idea of the government providing "health insurance" (as with the Canadian system). However, in polls, people tend to be confused by ambiguous terms such as "coverage."

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Stillow:

Was Biden wearing an Obama mask today? Why did Obama stick his foot in his mouth?

'UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems'

Ummm, he just admitted the private sector does a better job than g'ment.....you libs better send him a memo and itle it "Oooops"

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JMSTiger:

Another poll using an "all adults" sample. I would like to see Gallup start using at least a registered voters sample to see where actual voters stand since it will be voters who will decide the 2010 midterms.

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jack:

Useless poll. It asks about "a healthcare bill."

Which one?

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Stillow:

Along with his ooops comment about Fedex and UPS, he said again in his town hall today which I watched in its entirety, that he never said he wanted single payer system.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

What? That video is unedited....why is it Obama get a total pass y liberals and the media for stating outright lies? If the media was doing its job, Obama would be at Bush level approval............This guy is a master at saying soemthing and then denying he said it!!!

Sheeesh!


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Field Marshal:

JMSTiger is correct. The difference between ras and gallup is the polling sample. Ras uses likely voters whereas gallup uses adults. likely voters is a better indicator of voter turnout while adults is more indicative of the total population sentiment. They are different but ras was the only polling co. that was spot on for the 2008 presidential election.

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ThatMarvelousApe:

Based on Stillow's frantic response, it's obvious that Obama's townhall was a success.

Ummm, he just admitted the private sector does a better job than g'ment...

And? Acting like this is a matter of private vs. public is either disingenuous or indicative of an inability to understand the issues. It's a matter of having a public option, and Obama's point was that having a public option does not crowd out the private market. Again, nobody is proposing a single-payer system. This is a question of having a public option for the people who want it and can't afford more luxurious private options... just as with USPS vs. FedEx.

Now, you can run back to Drudge to copy/paste another specious argument, or you can do the respectable thing and learn what the adults in Congress are actually debating.

that he never said he wanted single payer system...

While it's true that he changed his position from six years ago, he didn't say he *never* said that, and while he probably could have phrased it better, it's obvious that he meant he hasn't said he supports it within the last half-decade (including the presidential campaign and recent health care debate). Given that no bill is proposing a single-payer system and Obama isn't pushing for a single-payer system, this complaint is trivial... which is probably why no one but far right-wing partisans care.

why is it Obama get a total pass y liberals and the media for stating outright lies?

Why do so many critics of health care reform get a pass for state outright lies? Because the media is lazy and only cares more about stirring controversy than reporting the truth.

I'm sure Obama wouldn't mind clarifying what he meant about single-payer if it also meant a crackdown on the torrent of lies being pushed by anti-reform advocates.

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ThatMarvelousApe:

You could make a similar comment about private vs. public schools. Does the fact that there's a lucrative market for luxurious private schools mean we should eliminate public schools altogether? Does the fact that private lawyers tend to make loads of cash mean we should get rid of public defenders?

The vast, vast majority of Americans would answer "no."

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Stillow:

Sorry Ape, this time your guy got busted....his health reofrm will push will continue to fall in the polls...your soemtimes clever, but incorrect rhetoric cannot dig him out of this one...............

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ThatMarvelousApe:

Stillow,

I'd be happy if, at the very least, this means Republicans want to acknowledge that this is a debate about options and not single-payer. If you want to argue whether a public option would even be necessary in a health insurance exchange, I think you have a case to make (though one that I disagree with) and I'd be happy to debate that rather than debunk this "government takeover of health care" hogwash.

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ThatMarvelousApe:

For those interested, 538 has a great rundown on the various polls measuring support for a public option: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/public-support-for-public-option.html

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Bigmike:

60 Dems in the Senate and they can't get a bill out of committee with the public option. How are those nasty Republicans responsible for that?

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