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US: National Survey (ARG 8/17-20)

Topics: National , poll

American Research Group
8/17-20/10; 1,100 adults, 2.6% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(ARG release)

National

Obama Job Approval
43% Approve, 51% Disapprove (chart)
Dems: 87 / 6 (chart)
Reps: 5 / 89 (chart)
Inds: 36 / 60 (chart)
Economy: 41% Approve, 54% Disapprove (chart)

 

Comments
HookedOnPolls:

Stupid Ras, stupid SUSA, stupid ARG

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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HookedOnPolls:

Stupid Ras, stupid SUSA, stupid ARG

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Dave:

Recovery summer!

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CUWriter:

The netroots keeps clamoring about its disgust with Obama and yet he still has 87/6 approval with Dems. Maybe Gibbs was on to something?

Oh yeah and seconding what HookedOnPolls says.

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Field Marshal:

Hooked,

Don't you mean, ARRRRRRRRRGGG!!

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ndirish11:

87/6? I didn't think Dems were still that crazy. Now Obama is declaring the Iraq war is over, yet we are leaving 50,000 troops there. That's a hell of a lot to have in a country where there is supposedly no war. And who knows how many we will keep there indefinitely. That's a bad habit of ours, we never leave the countries we invade.

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JMSTiger:

@ ndirish11

I may be incorrect, but aren't all U.S. troops supposed to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011?

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JMSTiger:

For some unknown reason, Obama has recovered a few points in the two daily trackers. In Gallup, he is up to 44% (from a low of 41%) and in Rasmussen, he is sitting at 47% (from a low of 42%). I guess the mosque stuff is wearing off some.

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Field Marshal:

Normal cyclicality. Just noise movement.

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Aaron_in_TX:

"That's a hell of a lot to have in a country where there is supposedly no war. And who knows how many we will keep there indefinitely."

Japan - 32,000
South Korea - 27,000
Other east and southeast Asia - ~1000
Germany - 57,000

UK - 9,800
Italy - 9,800
Bosnia/Kosovo - ~1500
Turkey - 1,500
other Europe - ~3500

Sinai desert, Egypt - ~500
Kuwait - 10,500
Other middle east minus Iraq - ~2100

Guantanamo Bay, Cuba - 900
Other Western hemisphere - ~300

All of the conflicts in these areas are looong done, but we've got troops there and will keep them there.

There IS no exit from Iraq. Ever. I expect 25-50,000 to be there indefinitely. Same with Afghanistan. They'll reduce the troop levels there but we'll never fully leave.

Over time the bases become economic advantages for the host countries and they don't push to get rid of them as a result. Exception is Japan. But even when the current government wants us out past administrations signed contracts saying they can't force us out until a designated time.

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melvin:

Obama have to start getting tough,because he is just to soft to be President...Ronald Reagan was voted one of the most overrated persons in history..I can believe that,because he was overrated''The unemployment rate under Reagan only drop from 7.5 to 5.7,but the GOP thinks that was the greatest thing in history,i suggest they go in look at Democrats unemployment figures the past 100 years..Reagan was a failure,and these right-wing nuts wants to put him on the 50 dollar bill...GIVE ME A BREAK

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Aaron_in_TX:

The only country I can think of that we fully left was Vietnam.

But we get cheap goods from them now and sell them at Wal-Mart.

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melvin:

The GOP had to pump Reagan up,because they had no other Republican President the past 100 years to bragg about,because they all was miserable failures..That's why the GOP always try to make Reagan look better then what he really was.

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Field Marshal:

The only country I can think of that we fully left was Vietnam.

You can count Lebanon in my book. But no, we never leave. And those figures are just troops and not the multitudes of support personal that are contractors. Ramstein Air Base in Germany has over 95,000 people working at it with the majority being Americans.

But we get cheap goods from them now and sell them at Wal-Mart.

Yup. Now we are helping them move towards a market economy like we did China, Korea and most of the free world lifting millions out of poverty. Go us.

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ndirish11:

Aaron that is exactly the problem. Why do we have troops in Italy, England, Spain? Germany? Koreas? Are we going to be less safe if we get rid of these bases? No. We simply can't afford an empire. We have a trillion dollar foreign policy. That is more than every single countries foreign policy spending COMBINED. We have troops everywhere, and we are going bankrupt back home. Sounds just like Napolean, the Ottoman Empire. We have massively over extended our foreign policy into area we don't need to be in. And no one ever thinks that maybe because we have troops in all these countries, maybe because we have bombed and invaded Iraq, maybe because we are meddling in the affairs of the Middle East, maybe because we are trying to be the world's policemen that just maybe, all these things are making us less safe rather than more secure.

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JMSTiger:

I have a feeling we leave Iraq for the most part. Maybe 5,000-10,000 will remain behind in a base out in the western Iraqi desert. But I have a hard time believing there will be 50,000 U.S. troops in Iraq in 2020. There is a big difference between having tens of thousands of U.S. troops stationed in Europe and Japan/South Korea vs. the heart of the Middle East. Ron Paul was correct in his assessment that part of the reason we are in the situation we are in with the Islamic fanatics is because of our presence in fairly large numbers in the Middle East since 1990. I think there is nothing wrong with leaving 10,000-15,000 troops in Kuwait for the long term (as long as the Kuwaitis will have us), but I don't know if it would be wise to also have permanent bases in Iraq, Bahrain, Qatar, etc. Plus, let's don't forget that we are a bankrupt country and it may be wise to start winding these foreign bases and adventures down.

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ndirish11:

Ron Paul and Barney Frank are teaming up to reduce military spending. So far they don't have much support, but I think it will gain traction. Bipartisan politics at its best.

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JMSTiger:

@ melvin

The January 1989 U.S. unemployment figure (the month Reagan left office) was 5.4%, not 5.7%

Going from 7.5% in January 1981 to 5.4% in January 1989 is not bad at all, especially when considering that unemployment got as high as 10.8% in December 1983.

Also, GDP growth under Reagan exploded, starting in Q1 1983 and remained mostly healthy throughout the rest of his Presidency:

Q1 1983: +5.1%
Q2 1983: +9.3%
Q3 1983: +8.1%
Q4 1983: +8.5%

Q1 1984: +8.0%
Q2 1984: +7.1%
Q3 1984: +3.9%
Q4 1984: +3.3%

Q1 1985: +3.8%
Q2 1985: +3.4%
Q3 1985: +6.4%
Q4 1985: +3.1%

Q1 1986: +3.9%
Q2 1986: +1.6%
Q3 1986: +3.9%
Q4 1986: +1.9%

Q1 1987: +2.2%
Q2 1987: +4.3%
Q3 1987: +3.5%
Q4 1987: +7.0%

Q1 1988: +2.1%
Q2 1988: +5.2%
Q3 1988: +2.1%
Q4 1988: +5.5%

If that is considered a "failure" or "overrated", I think most Americans would rather go with the failure that the stunning success of the current President and his economic "recovery".

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Georgia Joe:

Let's see the GDP figures and unemployment statistics from 1981 and 1982 for Reagan. With that data, we can have an apples to apples comparison. Reagan's term didn't start in 1983. Comparing August 1982 and August 2010 data, the polling numbers and economic numbers for Obama and Reagan are quite similar, although I believe Reagan's may be a bit lower.

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Nick:

Reagan was also a master of deficit spending, borrowing heavily to stimulate the economy.

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