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US: National Survey (CBS 10/5-8)


CBS News
10/5-8/09; 829 adults,+/- 3% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(CBS: health care story, results; Afghanistan story, results; H1N1 story, results)

National

Obama Job Approval
Overall: 56 Approve, 34 Disapprove (chart)
--Dems: 87 / 8 (chart)
--Reps: 20 / 69 (chart)
--Inds: 52 / 35 (chart)

Health Care: 47 / 42 (chart)
Economy: 54 / 38 (chart)
Foreign policy: 48 / 28 (chart)

Additional Summary via CBS News release:

  • 47% of Americans approve of how President Obama is handling health care, while 42% disapprove - little change from last month. Majorities disapprove of the way the Democrats (60%) and Republicans (67%) are handling health care.

  • Compared to past debates on major issues, 45% view the current health care debate as more negative  -- four times as many as say it has been more positive (11%).  36% say the debate is similar in tone to past debates on major issues.

  • Most Americans (61%) would be disappointed if Congress doesn't pass health care reform this year and the system continues as it is; 29% would be pleased if reforms do not pass.

  • 42% approve of the President's handling of Afghanistan, while 34% disapprove.  His approval rating was 44% in late September and 48% in August.

  • Americans remain divided about what to do in Afghanistan.  37% of Americans want troop levels increased while 38% want them decreased.  Just 17% want troop levels kept as they are now.

  • Most Americans (57%) think Iran is a threat that can be contained with diplomacy, though the 19% who think it is a threat that requires military action now has risen six points since February.

  • 43% approve of how President Obama is handling Iran; 35% disapprove.

Party ID
33% Democrat, 22% Republican, 45% independent (chart)

 

Comments
tjampel:

Party ID isn't quite right; too few repubs and too many independents; approval rating is about 4 points out of line with other national polls. CBS has a bigger liberal house effect on a more consistent basis than Ras has a Republican one.

Considering the above looks like things are pretty much the same, slightly better for the administration than a few weeks ago. We're still split on health care but there's no doubt Americans want some kind of reform; they see Republicans, unfairly or not, as standing in the way of most of those changes, even ones that Repubs could support (like portability, pre-existing conditions, etc).

Re health care reform; my thoughts on the current debate/status of the legislation

By focusing so much on attacking Obamacare Republicans made a big mistake (IMO) in not putting forward a serious plan of their own containing those common elements that both sides agree upon. Blunt promised to deliver and didn't. No one has taken much notice of this, but I think the meme of Repubs=NO NO NO coupled with the new Grayson approach of NO=death, whether you think it to be crude or not, will stir up emotions, mainly on the Dem side, but, most importantly, emotions move people, and people move legislators.

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Brad Forsythe:

Excellent poll for Obama. He's also up in today's Rasmussen and Gallup trackers. I guess Americans like when their president wins a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Stillow:

Of course its a good poll for Obama. Its CBS. as usual, anything CBS does is junk and should be tossed out with the weekend trash. At the best, maybe you can use CBS polls to line your cat's litter box.

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Stillow:

Brad Forsythe:

You realize the whole world is still laughing at the nobel decision? Politics....

Obama is right he didn't deserve it....this one was not his fault, but quite embarrassing...even my liberal freinds are like what the......................

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Wong:

Most Americans don't have the time or inclination to sort out the machinations of the Nobel committee. Only those already aligned with the rabid anti-Obama crowd are distressed. The rest of America will react with momentary astonishment and then pride that one of their own was so honored and that will be it.

The talking heads on TV, Halperin, Marcus, Brezinski, Scarborough, among others,with nothing less than a full attack of inner-beltway myopia, focused obsessively upon some imagined scale of political calculation, so full of themselves in their arrogant certainty, have bestowed upon us their divine truth.
The Nobel prize, launched like an arrow from Oslo by uncalculating buffoons upon our President can only inflict upon him untold horror. Listening to them, one wonders how he will ever survive.


I don't think they have a clue, and on this particular issue, they are particularly clueless

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Brad Forsythe:

Stillow:

I wasn't talking about world reaction, though the hope he inspired around the world, and the resepct from the world he brought to the U.S. is why he received the award in the first place.

Based on the daily trackers, which albeit is just a one day sample so no definite conclusions can be made just yet, folks seemed to like Obama winning the Nobel Prize, or at the very least, didn't care. That was the only point I was trying to make.

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tjampel:

I actually care about American foreign policy, not Nobel Prizes. Obama's foreign policy speeches and initiatives have raised the stature of the US in the world (the bar was quite low of course). I do believe that we can no longer "go it alone" in this world, and having the respect of other leaders makes assembling coalitions a lot easier. George H. W. Bush knew that when he responded to the invasion of Kuwait by getting all of his allies on board. W failed to do that in Iraq.

I think realist forign policy is the way to go. If the President were Dick Lugar we'd have a similar approach; Obama just happens to be a hated "Socialist" figure to 30% of Americans or so, yet, like other realist leaders of all political persuasions he's been applying a strategy favored by most other sovereign nations, as well as many political theorists and analysts. If you want to call him a wuss I don't care; free country; I'm a lot happier with my "wuss" than your "W" (or McCain, Palin, Cheney, etc.)

He's popular in the rest of the world. Of course the bar was set very low by Bush.

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tjampel:

That last sentence flew in under the radar; ignore it

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sjt22:

@ Stillow

The numbers are reasonable, especially given that this is a relatively small sample and its adults, not likely voters.

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Stillow:

sjt22

You have read my posts on cbs before so I know you know why I think they are junk. They shouldn't even have a license to be a network anymore after the stuns they pulled.

One of my freinds who is a flaming liberal...a staunch hillary fan turned obama after he won the nomination told me...and I am quoting her. "He hasn't even done anything, why is he winning anything."

If you watch the live announcement people in the room started laughing. I saw some british news guy go around the streets of London asking what the normal folks thought and most of them were laughing.

How embarrassing. IMO all he has done is pass a so called stimulus bill that has taken us from 7.5 unemployment to nearly 10...increased the deficit from 500 billion to 1.5 trillion.

Nobel prize? How about moron of the year....of course jimmy carter and al gore won it too, so they have a habit of giving it to loony toons anyway.

Amazing, one of my freinds sent me a youtube video of thousands of people standing in line in detorit waiting for $3,000 checks from the g'ment. The reporter asked this one lady where the money is coming from and she said obama, thats why we voted for him, for the money!!! Ahhhhh, you libs are soemthing else, stupid people, doing stupid things, voting for stupid leaders......the democratic party, gotta love them!

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tjampel:

Obviously, when you get away from the 24/7 political news cycle in the US; when you get out into the world, there's a feeling that our country's approach to solving world problems has changed...for the better. Who's foolish enough to challenge polls with large samples which have confirmed this. People in the rest of the world feel a lot better about the US right now.

Now, if Republicans are correct the rest of the world is either evil or hopelessly naive, or a bunch of wusses. W believed this and acted on those beliefs. I think it was to our detriment.

You all have every right to think that Obama's realist foreign policy, his push towards nuclear disarmament and disposal of warhead, his and his complete repudiation of the Bush Doctrine = NOTHING other than appeasement to the rest of the world, whose interests are not aligned with those of our country. But I, for one, do care how the US is perceived by the rest of the world. I care because it affects economic policy, foreign policy, building coalitions, and negotiating with belligerent countries.

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Stillow:

tjampel

What has he done? Instead of telling me how stupid everyone who opposes obama is, tell me what he did to get the nobel prize? What, give a good speech? Hitler gave great speeches, did that deserve the nobel prize? He hasn't done anything.

The added danger in obama is that his supporters are rabid. His base treats him like a god king. Refusing to question him, refusing to question his motives, but rather just blindly follow him. For 8 years voices like Hillary Clinton and Al gore told me it was my patriotic duty to question my president and my g'ment....but all of a sudden when I do that I am told I am racist.

If you listen to the conservative base in this country, we tossed Bush out a long time ago because of his big g'ment liberal spending habits....but you guys on the left treat obama as the second coming. Very dangerous what you people are doing. FDR helped to fight abck naziism, Reagan helped free a billion +people trapped in communist slavery, Lincoln ended slavery in America by fighting and winning the civil war....those were great leaders who accomplished soemthing, Obama gives a good speech and everyone bows at his feet and worships him.

Some of you people have lost all ability to think for yourself, American cannot function without that ability. When you hand over your decision making ability to g'ment, we will die as a nation. When you stop questioning your g'metn and president, we die as a nation. We have everyone from school kids being taught to sing songs of worship to of obama to a nobel committee who disgraced itself by giing a award like that to someone who has done aboslutely nothin but give a speech or two.

Dangerous times we live in with so many liberals who have lost there instinct to question authority and instead embraced the eternal wisdom of one man, obama.

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Brad Forsythe:

Today's gallup poll at 56%. A Nobel bump?

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RAG2:

@ Stillow:

"Hitler gaves great speeches too"--but he never won the Nobel Prize--and for good reason.

By the way, I find it ironic that you right-wingers compare Barack Obama, a black liberal, to Adolph Hitler--a militaristic right-winger who HATED both blacks and liberals. If Obama lived in Nazi Germany, he'd have been on Hitler's "hit list"--and not in a good way. It's also ironic because right-wing talking heads like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are the REAL Hitler-wannabes--already referring to anyone who's different from them, doesn't match their criteria for "acceptable" people, or simply disagrees with them, as pure evil and responsible for every problem in America--even suggesting that the country would be better off if these people--liberals, Democrats, feminists, gays, minorities, and anyone else with whom they have an axe to grid--didn't exist. That's what Hitler did--he told people that other people (in that case, Poles, Jews, Communists, trade unionists, gays, blacks, gypsies, etc.) were to blame for all--ALL--of Germany's problems. By comparison, when has Obama relied on such fear-mongering, let alone persecution? When did he launch any ads comparing Republicans to vermin--like Hitler did regarding Jews?

As for Obama being "God-King"--no, we liberals don't blindly trust him; in fact, we've been quite critical of his slowness in fulfilling many of his progressive promises. But I recall that many, perhaps most, conservatives treated Reagan as "God-King"--treating him as if he cold do no wrong, and as if it were blasphemy for anyone to criticize him. They even wanted to diefy him by putting him on Mount Rushmore--which already has 2 Republicans (Teddy Roosevelt & Lincoln) and a Federalist (Washington), but only 1 Democrat (Jefferson) on it. If Reagan, why not FDR or Jack Kennedy first?

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RAG2:

PS. I'm glad that conservatives are going crazy over Barack Obama's getting the Nobel Prize. It's nice to know that they're as THIN-SKINNED as they excuse liberals of being. Besides, I know that even IF Obama had "earned" it--say, if Obama was in his 4th or 8th year and had successfully wrapped up Afghanistan, Iraq, and a number of other conflicts--they'd STILL think he didn't deserve it! You right-wingers better learn how to take stuff like this in stride, or you'll never make through the 21st century!

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Stillow:

Thanks for proving my point. Neither of you told me anything he has accomplished other than have unemployment rise to 9.8 under his watch and tripling the deficit. If growing a deficit is all you need, ten Bush should have won several years in a row.

By the way, the NAZI party was the national "socialist" party....Hitler was a militant left wing extremeist, not a right wing extrmeeist as you think. G'ment run health care, nationlzied control over private industry....just a couple of his socialist agenda items...anyway, we are way off topic.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what he has done.

Don't your knees ever hurt from worshiping this guy so much?

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Stillow:

Ya know whats funny, we conservatives used to say the same thing about you liberals in 2000-2005 about Bush and how crazy he made you libs....until we abandoned him starting in mass in 2005....because he tunred out to be just antoher big g'ment liberal.

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Aaron_in_TX:

Conservatives stopped respecting the Nobel Prize quite a long time ago when it was given to the likes of Mohamed El-Baradei, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, and Yassir Arafat. Their reaction was deplorably predictable, despite Obama's self-deprecating reaction to it. They simply cannot believe that slightly more than half of Americans, and a large proportion of Europeans like Obama. To them, that is a disqualification.

I wasn't particularly happy about Obama winning it, since I knew the conservative reaction would be exactly what it was, as Stillow proves.

Please, please, please, no Hitler comparisons. Hitler was a unique phenomenon resulting from the German economic and geopoliical situation in the 1920's and 30's as well as peculiarities of German culture from the the mid-19th century forward. As an historian, it drives me insane. I can't stand when anyone uses Hitler as a comparison to any American politician.

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Stillow:

I was not comparing him to hitler...just referenced he was a great speaker...reagan was a great speaker, so is obama. i am sill waiting to find out what he has done. Perhaps I am wrong here, but here is my count.

Gitmo - still open
Iraq war - still going
Afghan war- abotu to be escalated
health care - cannot control his own party to get it passed
dont ask dont tell - still there
curbing unemployment - it continues to rise
controlling deficits - he has tripled it
stop influence of lobbysits - hahaahahahah
respect aborad - hmmm, all the nations aborad are about to dump the dollar
investing in green energy - nope, not yet

The list goes on but you guys get the picture, its coming up on a year and he has done nothing but pass a failed stimulus, I mean, thats it...and a few good speeches. His key #1 issue health care, most polls show he doe not have majoirty support for his reforms.

Heheheh, amazing....coming up on a year and he has done zilch...except have a beer summit.

You guys are killing me with this blind obsession for him.

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bigfoot9p6:

Stillow:
I am no conservative, but I can imagine that if I was I would be no fan of Obama at all. I just want you to consider something though...If W hadn't been president you never would of heard of Obama. The American people tend to vote for a president who does not have the previous presidents weaknesses, and therefore we elected a big-town academic liberal. If McCain had been elected in 2000, I am guessing H. Clinton would be president now. If you do not like liberals as presidents you should think about what the backlash will be next time you nominate a know-nothing backwoods redneck. Like a Sarah Palin.

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Stillow:

a backwoods know nothing redneck.........very classy....very classy. Your mom would be proud.

Right now I am just hoping we survive this disaster that is obama....I agree with your logic, cus without Carter we would not have had Reagan.

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Clint Cooper:

Whoa! Stillow is still posting here??? This is indicative of how the GOP will waste its time over the next four years. Trust me, 2012 is going to be a total crushing landslide (again) for Obama. I don't think the GOP has come to terms with how much the fastest growing part of the electorate (the Latinos) hates the GOP guts and how much they like Obama. 2012 will be good times for sure!

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