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The only lib spin possible here is the party ID numbers. And I do admit it is GOP friendly. But even taking that into consideration, this has to make libs sick to their stomaches.

Sorry, Bigmike. It doesn't make me "sick to my stomach." On the contrary, it makes me laugh so hard, my sides hurt. They published this as a joke, right?

I'm assuming Fox doesn't reweight after it gets its results? If they poll 900 random people and 41% of them are Republicans, that's the way it stays?

Fox News is not respected,now who who believe Fox News after what they did last week?Fox News may get big ratings,but people only tune in to watch the clowns say something stupid

Fox News is the Jerry Springer of cable news. Only 1 percent of they're viewers are minority.Fox News will never be taken seriously,they're creditability was destroyed by Andrew Mr KKK.

Fox News is the Jerry Springer of cable news. Only 1 percent of they're viewers are minority.Fox News will never be taken seriously,they're creditability was destroyed by Andrew Mr KKK.

Usa Today reported last week 70 percent of the stories Fox News have done since Obama got in office,had to do with race and destroying Democrats.

The only respectable person on Fox News is Chris Wallace,but i hear he wants out after his contract is up,because Wallace is tired of all the wing nuts on Fox News.

I don't know why Faux needs Opinion Dynamics. They could just use Rasmussen, which they often do. 41% Republicans? Right.

5 posts in a row, melvin? If you instantly dismiss any poll from fox then why are you wasting everyone's time with your hate-filled childish rants?

Only 31% oppose the AZ law, 72% say the federal government is not enforcing federal immigration laws, and 45% want the illegals deported. Lock and load. It's time for citizens to take care of this problem that the federal government is causing. Thank God the 2nd amendment hasn't been repealed by Obama and the uber-liberals yet.

I posted this on the WI thread as well.

900 respondents

737 whites 81%

104 blacks 11.5%

59 "other" (hispanic?) 6.5%

Is this the demographic of America in 2010? No, but it is the demographic in the "Leave it to Beaver" world of Fox news and their viewers.

Estimated % of ethnic groups in US in 2010:

White 65%
Hispanic 16%
Blacks 13%
Other 6%

Someone said in another thread that Hispanics consider themselves white. But how convenient that Fox does not give the actual number of "white" Hispanic respondents. I doubt that it is anywhere near the true % of the population.

Interesting tid bit. Obama's approval has actually gone up slightly among Republicans since April. A trend? lol

What will happen with this poll is that lazy reporters and commentators from the Mainstream Media will fit it right into the current narrative that a Republican landslide is building.

Is it just me or does anyone else think that it's time to remove Melvin from this site? His constant racist rants are despicable and have no place here or anywhere else.

Interesting poll. I'm going to make a prediction: in a year, Obama will be polling 55+ and Speaker Boehner will have ground public support for the GOP to dust with policies too far-right for America and attacks on HCR that lack a coherent vision of what to replace "Obamacare" with.

FOX screwed up the party ID to such a huge extent, they have outrageously high MOE compared to sample sizes, and yet this is the best they could come up with to smear Obama? 43/50? Oh, and +11% GOP, very funny.

I can't get over their 16% independents of which they have an 8% MOE. What a junk poll. 41% GOP? In what alternate universe?

Guys, there might not be more registered republicans than democrats, but if this were a likely voter model, it would probably be accurate. Face it. It doesn't matter if the Republicans don't take back the house. Obama can barely get legislation passed with the 58 or however many dems he has in the senate. Imagine how much he'll get done with only 53 or 54. And if Republicans take back the house......it's all over. I mean, other than repealing healthcare, what does it matter whether the republicans pick up 3 or 8 seats. If they pick up only 3, Obama still becomes like a lame duck, or else he has to become more of a centrist. Everything he tries will get blocked otherwise.

TeaPartyRules am I missing something about Melvin. Where is he being racist?????

VermontWisdom: Let me see if I have your point correct:

racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism racism.

Fox News is racist, republicans are racist, the tea party is racist, Arizona law supporters are racists, opponents of healthcare destruction are racists, conservatives are racists, anyone who doesn't think Obama is God is a racist, anyone who isn't you is a racist.

Does that about sum it up?

melvin is a complete lunatic, no doubt about it. He illustrates spectacularly the left and their lack of intelligence and sanity.

Jamesia,

Polls rarely break out the MOE among the party ID. Do you think a poll of 500 voters (instead of 900 in this poll) has a lower margin of error even with a higher Indie party ID?

I think the lefties just need something to complain about. They see the writing on the wall from the crazy leftist and progressive policies destroying their chances this fall. They see their failing savior being exposed as the fraud many knew he already was. They see their Dem leaders and other nutty representatives (Grayson, Pelosi, Franken, Rangel) and have nothing going for them. Thus, they can only write about 3 things: rasmussen, Fox, and racism. They are as transparent as Wedgewood crystal. Kind of pathetic really.

Real_American what on earth are you talking about?

First, you don't know me so I cannot expect you to know whether I think everyone who disagrees with me is a racist. That is simply not true.

But if you do not admit that Fox News ( Glen Beck saying Obama hates white people. The hysteria over the new black panther party) The Tea Party supporters ( Claiming Obama isn't an American but a Kenyan, carring pictures of him dressed as a witch doctor) do not play to deep seated racial biases in this country, you are fooling yourself.

I do think that there is racism and prejudice among all ethnic groups and it should be dealt with. But let's stick to the issue here. The issue in this thread, is whether or not the demographic breakdown of this poll is valid. It isn't. Does that mean the pollsters are racist? I don't know. But I know that people who may not be racists, who want to win political races , appeal to racial bias in groups they are courting. Let's not be naive about this.

Suuuurrree!!!!

All of you right-wing nuts dont want to hear the truth about your racist Republican party.You don't hear Democrats talking about abolishing the 14th amendment.The Republican party is afraid of the Demographic change in this Country,that's why they want only Natural Born Citizens to vote in Federal Elections.Bill Cunningham told a caller on his show,if the GOP stops people who wasn't born here from voting in Federal Elections,it would take away 30% of the Democratic vote.

I'm really confused how there are several polls that don't seem to understand the concept of random sampling. A real poll would be 20% Republican, 30% (I think) Democrat, High 40% Independent and the rest other. That's how you get an accurate picture of the nation. The margin of error for this poll is more like 10%.

Vermont wisdom you are right. The people like Fox and Rasmussen want to conquer America with their hate filled, white supremacist agenda. They can call me a racer all they want, but there is a clear pattern in these polls, especially Opinion Dynamics that has our Democraphics all messed up. At least Rasmussen uses the likely voter scenario. Fox is full of crap in their polls and full of crap in what they try to call journalism.

There is quite a bit of heat being generated. When it comes to the topic of race that is not surprising. Here is my take.

You are not a racist, just because you oppose President Obama. Let's face it, Republicans have been opposing Denocrats since I can remember. And why would that change now? You don't like the national government being involved in health care or bailing out the auto industry, that's fine. We can disagree on policy. But if you try to "spice" up your opposition with extraneous and irrelevant issues that play into racial animus, then you are either a racist yourself or you are pandering to racial hatreds that are smoldering just below the surface.

White Americans gave Obama a higher % of their votes than any Democrat since LBJ in '64. We are not a racist country, but we do have a heck of a lot of racists who poison the well of public discourse on a regular basis.

What the heck is Fox trying to prove here? In what universe do REGISTERED voters out-number Democrats?

Now, I'm willing to accept that in this political environment registered voters may prefer Reps over Dems, but out-number them? No, no, and for good measure, no again.

This is an outrageously flawed poll simply because of the Party ID. Perhaps if this was LV screen could take it more seriously, but a RV screen with Reps out-numbering Dems and Inds?

Come on.

With that out of the way, I'll make a few observations on this poll in a separate post as soon as I'm done analyzing its internals.

Russ,

Do you honestly think Fox tells Opinion Dynamics whom to poll? I mean, come on...

They do not weight the sample. They say it at the end of the release.

Never mind, this poll isn't even worth the effort. As pointed out above, the Race breakdown is just completely wrong. They have it:

Whites 82
Blacks 12
Other 6

Yeah...I'll pass.

Real American, I am curious what your name refers to. Specifically, what is a "fake american?" Perhaps someone with a little more pigment in their skin, living in a location where everyone is not exactly the same cookie cutter married white christian living in a cookie cutter suburban house? Is that a "real american?" Are real americans required to watch Glenn Beck eight times a day while giving oral pleasure to rush?

No self respecting pollster or new organization would put this out under their name. Bad sample equals bad data or garbage in garbage out.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_tony_blankley/cry_racism_and_let_slip_the_dogs_of_politics

Cry Racism! and Let Slip the Dogs of Politics
A Commentary by Tony Blankley

In the last fortnight:
1) The NAACP called the tea party racists; 2) Andrew Breitbart called the NAACP racist; 3) Shirley Sherrod called Republican opponents of Obamacare racists; 4) Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack called Shirley Sherrod racist; 5) many in mainstream media called Andrew Breitbart racist; 6) Howard Dean called Fox racist; and, 7) it was revealed that liberal journalist Spencer Ackerman proposed calling Fred Barnes and Karl Rove racist.

Thus, through a confluence of bizarrely unlikely events, the vicious act of falsely accusing people of racism became a laughing stock. It went from being a career killer to a punch line; from villainy to vaudeville; from knife in the back to pie in the face.

It started at about noon Monday when Andrew Breitbart publishes on his website an edited video of Shirley Sherrod (giving a speech to an NAACP audience this spring), which he describes, in part thusly: "Sherrod describes how she racially discriminates against a white farmer. She describes how she is torn over how much she will choose to help him. And, she admits that she doesn't do everything she can for him, because he is white. Eventually, her basic humanity informs that this white man is poor and needs help. But she decides that he should get help from "one of his own kind".

"She refers him to a white lawyer. Sherrod's racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement."

The week before, the NAACP, without evidence, had attacked the tea parties for alleged racism in its rank and file. This is part of a running
smear now about a year old, by prominent Democrats such as Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and legions of Democratic Party support groups that the Tea Party (now identified with by about a third of the country) is racist, Nazi, un-American, etc.

Breitbart strikes back, with evidence (in the form of the video of the audience reaction to the moment in Sherrod speech before she talks of racial reconciliation) demonstrating anti-white racism in a NAACP audience. The story of the week is thus launched.

Notice, by the way, that he alerts the viewer that "Eventually, her basic humanity informs that this white man is poor and needs help." It's in
the video and it is in the text of Breitbart's original post on the topic. But the mainstream media selectively edits out this exonerating fact in virtually every story about Breitbart. So the subsequent charges against Breitbart by the mainstream media that his editing was misleading was itself misleading and wrong.

In a seemingly unrelated story just after midnight Tuesday morning (July 20) Tucker Carlson's Daily Caller reported on leaked emails from the liberal media cabal Journolist in which, when the Rev, Wright issue first emerged during the 2008 campaign, one of the participating liberal journalists, Spencer Ackerman, proposed defending Obama by using a racial smear tactic:

"If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us.
Instead, take one of them-Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares-and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction."

At last, we have the smoking gun that proves to the American public that at least some liberal reporters are quite prepared to make false charges of racism to advance their liberal political agenda-and to conspire with other like-minded character assassin journalists in the so doing.

So far, there are just two web site stories. But then the White House panics, and turns a couple of, until then, minor web stories into one of the worst political weeks for any White House since Nixon's many sad examples of terrible political weeks in 1974.

According to Mrs. Sherrod, she is forced to resign her post immediately at Department of Agriculture under pressure from the White House
which was afraid that Glenn Beck was about to report the story of her NAACP speech. (In the Obama version of FDR "The only thing we have to fear is the Glenn Beck Show itself-- -nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. "

The compliant NAACP then itself apologizes. The next day, more of Mrs. Sherrod's speech becomes available, where she describes how she over comes that first instinct of racial bigotry three decades ago and helps out the white farmer. The white farmer's wife then goes on CNN and says what a nice and helpful lady Mrs. Sherrod is.

The White House panics again and instructs the Sec. of Agriculture to apologize and offer her job back to her. The NAACP then withdraws its
apology and says it was "snookered" by Breitbart (even though it was their event with a room full of their members available to the NAACP last week.)

Then some more of her speech-after the reconciliation of the races section-is made available and includes the following sentences: " I haven't
seen such a mean-spirited people as I've seen lately over this issue of health care. (Murmurs of agreement.) Some of the racism we thought was buried -- (someone in the audience says, "It surfaced!") Didn't it surface? Now, we endured eight years of the Bushes and we didn't do the stuff these Republicans are doing because you have a black president. (Applause) " (Text courtesy of National Review).

In other words, she is accusing up to 70 million Americans (registered Republican voters) of opposing Obamacare because the President
is black-rather than because we disagree with the policy-as we did with Hillarycare in 1994. That is a broad-brush bigoted attitude by Mrs. Sherrod against all of us who opposed the president's healthcare policy. She implicitly accuses all 70 million of us of being racist.

Then Mrs. Sherrod goes on CNN with Anderson Cooper and says she thinks that Andrew Breitbart wants America to return to slavery for the
blacks. And that is the last mainstream television seems to want to present of Mrs. Sherrod live and unedited. After dominating the news for the week, the eloquent Mrs. Sherrod is not invited to a single Sunday show.

And so did the rank cynicism of overplaying the race card turn that dreaded knave into a joker.

Tony Blankley is executive vice president of Edelman public relations in Washington.

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Last time I checked the title of this post said: "US: National Survey (Fox 7/27-28)"

Why are you posting that here? What does it have to do with the poll?

Then again, I feel just "wonderful" about the "Independent pollster" Rasmussen continuing to have opinion commentary on his site.

bigfoot9p6:

Thank you. People like you, melvin, farleft, and a lot of the others show the true colors of the race-baiting hate-filled Obama lovers.

real_american:
Please change your moniker.

It sends the message that there are Americans who do not belong. Worse, it can be easily taken to mean that you consider yourself one of the select and that "real" Americans exclude a whole lot of folks. We need all of the allies we can get, including Hispanics, blacks, gays, and even the rare clear-thinking liberal or two (that's a teasing joke, thin-skinned people).

It seems to me that you paint yourself into a corner and you let your tag outshout what you have to say.

I suggest "Proud Conservative" or "Proud American."

Sure, some liberals will bridle and claim that you are suggesting that they are not "proud Americans." Your answer is that saying you are proud does not require that no one else be proud any more than saying that you are tall implies that everyone else is short.

Specifically, what is a "fake american?

Obama and melvin.

Since when did being real become politically correct?

Nope - that's my screen name. Deal with it or ignore it. Doesn't much matter to me. I'm tired of bending over backwards to comply with the PC police.

real_american:
I am interested in an exchange of views between conservatives and liberals. When one goes out of their way to insult the other, it degenerates into a boring shouting match.

You can read the responses you get and see that your screen name is taken as an insult, mainly because there are those who call those they disagree with un American or non American. It is not a PC issue because no one is asking you to use a euphemism.

Been there, done that, seg. It was queen of the liberals, Nancy Pelosi that called me unamerican last year for opposing the healthcare bill. It was the liberal vice president who said that people who don't want to pay high taxes are unamerican. It was Harry Reid who said that people who support the tea party are unamerican.

So spare me the BS about the american/unamerican/real_american crap.

If I offend people like bigfoot9p6 who then goes off on a rant about white christian people giving Rush Limbaugh blowjobs then that's his problem with his sick twisted mind - not my problem. If I make hate-filled race-baiters like him foam at the mouth then so be it.

You cons talk just to hear yourselves talk. A lot of words; very little content. A lot of paranoi; very little compassion. A lot of lies, name-calling, and strawmen; very little truth, respect for those who disagree, or humility.