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US: National Survey (Pew/NatJournal)

Topics: National , poll

Pew Research Center / National Jounal / Society for Human Resource Management
5/13-16/10; 1,002 adults, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Pew: report, toplines; National Journal: post)

National

State of the Country
28% Satisfied, 64% Dissatisfied (chart)

Job Rating
Congress: 13% Excellent/Good, 82% Only Fair/Poor (chart)
Pres. Obama: 39% Excellent/Good, 58% Only Fair/poor (chart)

From what you've seen and heard so far, do you think the Senate should or should not confirm Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court?
33% Should, 21% Should not, 46% Don't know

Party ID
32% Democrat, 23% Republican, 35% independent (chart)

 

Comments
DFW freethinker:

Elena Kagan=Harriet Miers

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jack:

I hate these polls that ask whether a President is doing a good, fair or bad job, and then lump the "fair" and the "bad" together in the same category, despite the fact that "fair" means "average" and should be in the middle of good and bad.

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Farleftandproud:

No, Harriet Myers really wasn't qualified for the job. She was a personal assistant to George W. Bush, and would have indeed been more of a centrist than Alito.

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Mark in LA:

"DFW freethinker:
Elena Kagan=Harriet Miers"

Yes, they are both female, which appears to be very deep analysis for DFW Freethinker.
Beyond that similarity, Kagan is regarded by both liberals and conservatives who know her well, as an intellectual giant who was exceedingly effective as a University Dean.
Miers is regarded as an intellectual midget, by even the conservatives who interviewed her after her nomination to a Supreme Court.
But, DFW Freethinker is correct again, they both have vaginas - so they are identical.

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sjt22:

@ DFW

False. Miers never played softball.

Also, she was never solicitor general of the Supreme Court.

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sjt22:

By which I meant Solicitor General of the United States.

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Field Marshal:

LOL.

How about the biggest comparison; they both have no judicial experience. I'm not saying that disqualifies her, i'm just saying its a big similarity. She's only been Solicitor General for a year but i guess if you can be prez after just two years in the senate, you can be a SC justice after a year as SG. Otherwise, i think DFW is correct. They are both intelligent, capable women who are qualified for the SC.

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Mark in LA:

I do not think it is accurate to say they both have "no judicial experience".
Miers, to my knowledge, had no judicial experience.
As Solicitor Geneneral, Kagan has a fair bit of experience arguing cases before the court.
Kagan also clerked under Thurgood Marshall, which is big-time "judicial" experience.

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Field Marshal:

Solicitor Generals do not adjudicate, they litigate, specifically, they supervise the DOJ litigation in the federal appellate court.

If you count that as judicial experience, then every lawyer who has ever litigated a case has judicial experience, including Harriet Meirs who worked for nearly 30 years as a litigator. In addition, Meirs clerked for a US federal judge in the 5th district circuit. Don't see clerking as judicial experience but again, just comparing Kagan and Meirs, their resumes are pretty similar.

Again, i think they are both qualified. I personally like Kagan's stance on late-term abortion. It gives me hope that she is on the right side of humanity on the issue.

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Shannon,Dallas,Texas:

Headline: 82% Disapprove

It kind of grabs your attention. Is it accurate?

Who care's? Polls aren't supposed to be accurate? They're supposed to generate interest and revenue.

FAIL . . .

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lat:

Hey Field Marshall,

Your party failed again last night! Where is this wave? Where were the "motivated gop voters" in PA 12? John McCain won this district in 08 and the dems won it last night. Go ahead give us the spin...blah, blah, blah. Here is the real spin your party is in complete disarray and has zero direction.

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Field Marshal:

Np spin. Burns lost. But i would bet big money burns wins in Nov when the PA GOP voters have a reason to show up in to the polls. I also found it interesting that McCain won the district but it carries a 2-1 dem registration advantage.

But Critz is a decent Dem. He hates the current administration almost as much as i do! In addition he is pro-life and pro-second amendment. So, as far as Dems go, he's a good one.

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Mark in LA:

Field Marshall,
I also agree with Kagan's recommendation on banning Late Term Abortions.

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lat:

Oh... I get it the gop had no reason to vote yesterday? Good one. You know Field Marshall I must give you credit for that outstanding line of horseshit. It's definitely clever. And despite the fact that I slam you and Stillow all the time I like you guys and you make it fun.

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Mark in LA:

LAT,
If Sarah Palin and Harriet Miers were halfway as smart as Field Marshal, then they would have been at least half-way credible candidates for their desired positions (Miers- Supreme Court, Palin - Empress of the World).
Field consistently puts forth well reasoned arguments (still-ow wrong), and his sentences and grammar are excellent -unlike someone else I am thinking about.
It's good to hear intelligent, reasonably respectful conversations about the topics at hand. Wagner and a couple others could learn something from Field Marshal.

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williame123:

@FieldMarshal

"just comparing Kagan and Meirs, their resumes are pretty similar."

Their resumes are similar except for their................ ACADEMIC PEDIGREES. Chief Justice Rehnquist also had no judicial experience before getting on the SC. What set him apart was his academic credentials. Chief justice Roberts had less than 2 years in the appellate system when he was promoted straight to Chief Justice. What also set him apart was his ACADEMIC pedigree.

Most conservative legal scholars didn't oppose Miers mainly because of her lack of judicial experience. They opposed her mostly for her tepid academic pedigree. Believe it or not, conservative scholars tend to be every bit as elitist, if not more so, as liberal scholars. There is a reason why all the conservative jurists on the SC are graduates of elite Ivy League law schools.

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williame123:

@Field Marshal

"Np spin. Burns lost. But i would bet big money burns wins in Nov when the PA GOP voters have a reason to show up in to the polls."

Nice spin! Isn't the more motivated party the one that shows up for special elections? Didn't Scott Brown win in MA? Didn't McDonnell and Christie win?

"I also found it interesting that McCain won the district but it carries a 2-1 dem registration advantage."

Despite the Dem registration advantage in the district, McCain won it and Murtha won it. The democratic party is heterogenuous and you know it. Democrats dominate Arkansas, Kentucky and other southern States locally, but those States tend to vote Republican in national elections. The reason for this schizophrenic voting pattern is that a good fraction of registered Democrats are very culturally conservative and do not agree with the national party on social and cultural issues.

It has been that way since the advent of the Civil Rights Movement and Feminist movements in the 1960s, with many Southern Democrats like Thurman, Shelby, Gramm etc switching to the Republican Party. This is precisely why the Republican Party of today is far more conservative and far less libertarian than the Republican Party of Eisenhower, Goldwater and Reagan. Those guys were mostly pro-business, pro-federalism and pro-strong national defense.

"But Critz is a decent Dem. He hates the current administration almost as much as i do! In addition he is pro-life and pro-second amendment. So, as far as Dems go, he's a good one."

He DOES NOT hate the Obama administration. He disagrees with them on some issues just as Chris Shays used to disagree with Bush on some issues.

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Field Marshal:

So you're saying a Dem seat stayed Dem? A district that went to McCain by a whole point but went to Kerry by 2. A district with a Dem registration avantage of 2-1. A district that was in a state with a hotly contested Dem primary with none on the GOP side. Yeah, what an upset!

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Field Marshal:

"Oh... I get it the gop had no reason to vote yesterday? Good one. You know Field Marshall I must give you credit for that outstanding line of horseshit. It's definitely clever. And despite the fact that I slam you and Stillow all the time I like you guys and you make it fun."

Facts are clever yes. You should try using them sometime instead of the scholarly rhetoric like the horse**** word you used. What makes this fun is seeing you get all agitated and squirmy when you detect racism, which is anytime someone who disagrees with you opens their mouth.

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Field Marshal:

"Most conservative legal scholars didn't oppose Miers mainly because of her lack of judicial experience. They opposed her mostly for her tepid academic pedigree. Believe it or not, conservative scholars tend to be every bit as elitist, if not more so, as liberal scholars. There is a reason why all the conservative jurists on the SC are graduates of elite Ivy League law schools."

Well, that is your opinion, not fact. Personally, i think a person can be on the SC without judicial experience and without going to Harvard or another Ivy. As my professor once said, law school has nothing to do with intelligence because law is subjective. Lawschool is for the people who can bullsh1t the best.

Certainly true in Obama's case!

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lat:

Field Marshall,

You are ok despite views. Lol!

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11thGenerationAmerican:

As my professor once said, law school has nothing to do with intelligence because law is subjective. Lawschool is for the people who can bullsh1t the best.
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That's what people who can't get into law school say to make themselves feel better.


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williame123:

@FM

"As my professor once said, law school has nothing to do with intelligence because law is subjective. Lawschool is for the people who can bullsh1t the best."

Well if the law is subjective then why are conservatives always whining about liberal judicial activism? LOL.

Also, since the LSAT is a multiple choice test, how does bullsh1ting help ypu do well enough on it to get into an elite law school? Do you get to sweet-talk the grading machine? You need to get a tuition refund. Your professor is/was obviously a moron!

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williame123:

@Field Marshal

"So you're saying a Dem seat stayed Dem?"

Well, if you guys can't win districts with a PVI of R+1, then how do you plan on taking the House?

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This poll seems strangely put together here. Counting the answer "fair" as a disapproval seems very strange.

It should be noted that only 27% answered that Obama was doing a "poor" job, 39% say Good/Excellent and 31% say Obama is doing a "fair" job.

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