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US: Obama 49, McCain 43 (Gallup 9/27-29)

Gallup
09/27-29, 08; 2,729 RV 2%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews

National
Obama 49, McCain 43

By PH Staff on September 30, 2008 3:08 PM |

 

Comments
Viperlord:

Oh dear, I hope boom hasn't had a heart attack, it's no fun when there are no ignoramuses.

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miatch:

Boom, you still certain this all gets back to 48-48 by the end of the week? Been on intrade today?

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PortlandRocks:

I know Boom has till Sunday for a tie! ROFL
His predictions are always dead wrong.
Where are all the Rasmussen state #'s from yesterday? This site is so behind.

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sebastianguy99:

Why are Pennsylvania and Colorado still yellow? Why is Missouri still light red?

Is it methodology, deference, or just plain god awful slow reaction?

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boomshak:

Dow up +422. Good polling day for McCain tomorrow.

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boomshak:

Tomorrow's Predictions:

Gallup O+4
Rasmussen O+5
Hotline O+5

All McCain needs to do after the VP debate is O-1 and M+1 and we are right back to a statistical tie by Sunday.

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Isher:

Boom I am going to talk about you like everyone else.

No, seriously, whether the dow's up or down isn't going to change an undecided's vote. Whether people are worried about the long run will, and that's not going to change tomorrow. Even if a bailout's passed, people are going to be worried about jobs (still the biggest worry by far), esp. in rustbelt states like... all the yellow ones.

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macsuk:

boomshak

How does the Dow being up help McCain? I thought he was for the bailout before he was against it before he was for it after he was not sure about it just before he said he would support it.

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Tyler:

"Statistical tie" by itself is a 100% meaningless term.

What you mean when you say that a result represents a statistical tie is that the probability that the candidate leading in the result is leading in reality is less than X%, but you're not specifying what X is.

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Atomique:

LOL.

Please, Republicans, keep telling yourselves McCain will win this thing. In fact, don't even bother voting. It's not even worth it. This thing's in the bag for you, OK? McCain and Palin are clearly geniuses with nothing but great ideas, and the American people will come around sometime in the next 35 days.

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burrito:

@PortlandRocks

All the Rasmussen polls have been update in their respective States (i.e. you must click on each of the States to see them) ... this was explained by Mark on his morning update ...

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/morning_status_update_for_930.php

@sebastianguy99

visit the above link ... there is an explanation about this ...

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boomshak:

A READER AT A MAJOR NEWSROOM EMAILS: "Off the record, every suspicion you have about MSM being in the tank for O is true. We have a team of 4 people going thru dumpsters in Alaska and 4 in arizona. Not a single one looking into Acorn, Ayers or Freddiemae. Editor refuses to publish anything that would jeopardize election for O, and betting you dollars to donuts same is true at NYT, others. People cheer when CNN or NBC run another Palin-mocking but raising any reasonable inquiry into obama is derided or flat out ignored. The fix is in, and its working." I asked permission to reprint without attribution and it was granted.

UPDATE: The Anchoress hears similar things. And reader Eric Schubert: "The Edwards debacle was proof enough of where the heart of the MSM lies, and lack of curiousity of the press about Edwards probably cost Hillary the nomination. And that shameful episode offers a warning to the MSM. What if Obama does have a skeleton in his closet (such as a shady deal or outright bribe) that is revealed after he wins the election? While the chance of this scenario is remote, imagine the backlash against the MSM if it could be shown that a reasonable investigation by the MSM would have easily revealed this secret to the public prior to the election?"

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Viperlord:

Please boom, not a single one of your predictions has come true. Ever.

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boomshak:

@Viperlord:

So you are saying that the market up 400 points and rumors of an impending deal on the economy WON'T help McCain tomorrow

Oh, ok, lol.

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PaddyMac22:

polls are interesting, but the fact is they are often inaccurate. Do you really think the republicans are not going to pull a rabbit out of a hat before the election. of course they will, especially if they are trailing in the polls. I would guess that there are many of white americans that will be voting for the first time, or the first time in a while, because of the canidates.

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Justin:

The PA trendline looks just plain wrong to me at the default setting.

Also, it's been almost two weeks since we've seen any polling in Indiana. Odd.

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Save US:

I doubt anything on the economy is ever gonna help McCain...

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boomshak:

The October Surprise:

Israel bombs Iran's Nuke facilities, ESPECIALLY if they think Obama will win.

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boomshak:

If we get some buy programs on close, we could end up +600 on the Dow today.

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boomshak:

GOOG +35 today.

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boomshak:

@miatch:

"statistically tied" by Sunday nimrod.

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Adrian B:

Point 1 - even if there's a deal on the bail-out it wont suddenly right the economy. That is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Point 2 - the VP debates are meaningless, however well either candidate do - they never change votes (remember Quayle vs Bentsen).

Point 3 - McCain will get no credit for a deal, if one does get passed, because he was clearly trying to benefit from the crisis by his campaign suspension (even 80% of right-wing commentators agree it was a stunt), and then when he tried to swing the votes he showed he had no leverage.

Point 4 - by 2:1 people blame the Republicans for this mess (rightly or wrongly) and they will punish them at the polls.

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boomshak:

@Adrian B:

Point 2 - the VP debates are meaningless, however well either candidate do - they never change votes (remember Quayle vs Bentsen).

No, actually if Palin performs well, McCain could pick up 10 points amongst white women.

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PaddyMac22:

Of course the economy has the oppurtunity to help McCain. The message of reduced spending will resonate with many americans. Regardless of factual history and data, McCain will turn this economy question into his favor with many. Maybe not all. But many. ---My poll of 10 people at a restaurant 2 hours ago at lunch (yes i talk to others). Are you a working class american? All answered yes. Will your taxes go down with Obama as President or McCain? 6 McCain, 2 Obama, 2 i don't no, and why are you talking to me at lunch?

Florida

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boomshak:

OMG, BRUTAL NEW MCCAIN AD! WOW!

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/30/good-new-mccain-ad/

Best ad McCain has ever run - and he uses Bill Clinton's own words to do it.

Wow, just wow.

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boomshak:

Wow, I just watched it again. THAT may be the BEST AD of the entire political season.

There's hope yet!

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Justin:

Good for a laugh:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-palinreligion28-2008sep28,0,3643718.story?track=rss

Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.

Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage...

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Dana Adini:

even new battleground poll is blue

Obama 48% +2

McCain 46% -2

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DaylightDisc:

I come here every day to see the comments here. Its sad to see the right wingers on here pulling anything and everything hypothetical out of their butt to counter the reality that Obama is winning. Desperation is showing....'Israel will bomb Iran Nuke facilities' for example.
Your party and candidate was close once but is fading.

The general public (not the poll geeks here)see the numbers and they come away with Obama is winning and is steadily increasing his lead. Its a fact. Its just that simple.
And when people see their candidate (MAGoo in this case) falling behind, there may be a apathetic malaise that sets in that causes them not to vote when they know they are going to lose.

Dont get me wrong, I enjoy the back and forth about the legitamate weightings and methods for polling. You all inform me very well. Im just saying that trying to pull out 'October Surprise' speculation is anithetical to your logic.

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cmbat:

@boomshak-

You continue to be in LA-LA land about all of this.

Why does Ayers matter if Palin's church does not?

Why does Acorn matter if Keating does not?

Why does FannieMae matter when both sides took funds from Fannie?

The idea that MSM is in the tank for Obama is ridiculous. They let the Ayers thing going on for months without going after McCain's religious nutjob.

The ACORN issue is a non-starter. You can rag on that group all you want, but they weren't responsible for the mortgage crisis and they have helped out a lot of people.

The real coverage is on all of the stupid pet tricks that McCain keeps performing. Maybe if he'd man up and start acting Presidential, the world would consider him as such.

People like you are a joke.

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PaddyMac22:

Boomshak

Great ad. We need to hope people dont check the facts (because i know, and i'm guessing you know) but we need others to be blind to this. You are right. Great Ad. And back to my point about McCain using the economy as a speaking point.

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Dana Adini:

Boomshak

those comments are old news. Funny thing is that Obama beat Hillary becasue all of the repulicans who crossed over in open primaries becasue they hated/feared her. Now he's going to kick your collective behinds.

cruel fate

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boomshak:

cmbat = delusional moonbat

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Isher:

@boomshak

OMG BRUTAL NEW AD OMG

Did you just wake up?

The ad's sortof lame. It has nothing substantial against O, the bringing up of Clinton bashing himself won't matter to anyone, and McCain's so anti-regulation and so behind in money that all the spots against him recently will have more of an impact (not just because they have a decent production value and were done by non-idiots, but because they'll be more widely dispersed).

In fact, this one will have more effect than that one:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Obama_ad_sells_defends_healthcare_plan.html#comments

Wow, just wow.

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boskop:

@boomshak
I luv ya. i mean it.

look, oil is down. people arent getting booted from their homes. subprimes represent only 14%. we still dig earth, grow food and covet what the next fella has in his living room.

that's human nature - so we may get a downturn in useless paper being traded in a panic, but whatever it was that built rome to last is still in us.

WHAT DID SHE SAY?

I mean, we cant stop ourselves from moving on. the economy is strong because we have itchy fingers. we got here because the poor person coveted the big house and couldnt afford and we'll get out of it because we covet. PERIOD.

so who the hell cares about the recovery bill?
if it doesnt pass, oil plummets and everyone is happy they didnt have to revamp their cars with water bottles and conversion CNG.

otherwise, the bill passes and people start groping after this and that and drive the economy up up and away.

So let's talk OBAMA// I call him the Nutch who wants his Nitch.

First, what precisely is his core? beyond sheer salivating ego, that is.

I see him him bouncing from news cycle to news cycle playing it like a drunken paladin trying to shoot a snake weaving in the grass. he keeps shooting after it thinking this turn is the most important one, when really it's the next and he tries to take aim again. very exhausting.

SO, he tries to win the day but what drives his thesis? Somtehing that sustains his legistlation, his foreign policy other than, gotcha, george w bush! i mean really.

I cant see him staking out a claim and waiting it out for the long term on anything. he just wants to win the round at the expense of his mental integrity and the long term effects of
constantly jabbing. he's the kind of boxer that wears themselves out by jumping around and striking constantly hoping to land one.

you know that kind. they turn green and collapse by round four.

come on barack, cool it. what the hell is your style beyond wanting to just win for winning's sake?

well, now let's see. there was that lady friend of his who told him to go out and make his anti war speech so he could win the senate seat in Chicago. But it was a jab. He punched into the air, ONCE.

but it wasnt sustained footwork. he never marched with sheehan, he never bellowed loud and clear beyond his nitch. he never stuck his head out beyond his state seat. All he ever was was a NUTCH looking for a NITCH.

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ticketstub:

@ boom

calling cmbat a delusional moonbat doesn't answer any of the questions asked. Those first few questions posed are relevant I think, and deserve an actual answer. I'm not trying to attack here, but if that's such a ridiculous thing for cmbat to say, explain to me why...that's fair, yes?

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PaddyMac22:

daylightdisc,

you make it sound simple but do you remeber 2000, and 2004? if you think obama and the dems are just going to walk away with this election, you are wrong. republicans are that good. stevens might even win alaska for the senate seat. think. stevens may win alaska. amazing but true.

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BOOMFAIL:

To be honest, I expected McSame's ads to be much worse by now. As Obama can speak directly into the camera with positive messages about his plans while looking very presidential, all McSame can offer are negative attacks. I still believe he will get much nastier. He hasn't caught on that negative ads for him aren't working, and the blame game seems stale to most. Buck up and offer what can be done to help the country. Remember we aren't supposed to question why we were mislead into Iraq. Don't talk about how we got there, right.

McSame knows Losing sucks.

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ticketstub:

@ boskop

For arguments sake, lets say we concede that Obama is "bouncing from news cycle to news cycle." Can you really with a straight face say that Palin/the Columbia trip/"suspending" his campaign isn't McCain chasing news cycles left and right? It certainly seems like that's what that is to me.

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macsuk:

boomshak

In case you didn't notice Obama beat the Clintons once and can do so again. Have you noticed in his moment of desperation all McCain has is taking statements out of context and making an ad out of them. It makes you think that the explosive Rovian type surprise does not exist.

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burrito:

After listening for several days to all the blabbering coming from boomshak, now I understand why so many Republicans think that the selection of Sarah Palin for the Vice-President position was a good choice … It is my impression that incoherence, false assumptions, unreasonable predictions, senseless statements and uneducated conclusions are highly regarded by this Party … one could say that George W. Bush is a fine example of my conclusions on this point …

But I must give credit to boomshak. In these perilous times that we live, some of us often look at life and the future not very positively … but here, in Pollster, we have boomshak who tries (very hard, apparently) to make us laugh every day with his nonsense …

I think that this is the trademark of this Party (the Republican Party) … this is not politics … this a COMEDY TOUR !! That is why comedy programs such as the Daily Show and SNL do not even have to do any hard work on obtaining or providing any material … they can simply use, either clips (such as in the Daily Show), or just verbatim (such as the SNL skits) … even the most serious hosts of the most serious television shows (I saw the other day Tom Brokaw trying to contain laughter) seem to be involved in comedy (such as Katie Couric) … is this the strategy of this Party? “There is no substance in what we say, but we will make you laugh” ?

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Isher:

@Boskop

You're almost as out of touch as McCain. Please go back to school and take a course in economics. And it's spelled niche.

#1 Reason people are losing their homes? Health Care bankruptcy

#1 Reason Republicans will vote for Obama? Health Care. McCain will raise taxes on Health Care and then give people tax credits to get health care. In other words, it'll cost more. Why? Because he's clueless.

Poor people trying to get houses is not why we're in this mess, and market correction is not going to fix the fact that speculation on borrowed money on overpriced homes is the problem, not poor people who lost their homes last year.

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nomorerepubs:

McCain cannot afford to get nastier. People do not like McCain, even the one's who are voting for him don't like HIM.

W. even though he was and is a snake seemed likeable and even a little charming and he used surrogates to be nasty and so the Rovian sleeze machine was able to do their worst with Gore and Kerry. They had majorities in states that they could illegally control and they managed to steal the elections, But with such a cantakerous and un-charming candidate as McCain as well as their loss of majority status in many states I don't believe they can do it again.

Someone said that the Repubs are not just going to let Obama walk away with it they are that good. Well the repubs are that good. It is an absolute disgrace but they are the best sleeze merchants I have seen in my life. But I tthink this election cycle is different, we have had enough.

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cinnamonape:

"The October Surprise:

Israel bombs Iran's Nuke facilities, ESPECIALLY if they think Obama will win."

Of course this would have to be given a "green light" by Bush. And would be the greatest miscalculation since the invasion of Iraq.

It that would set off a nice conflagration in the ME...which our men and women on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan likely to pay the price. Just when the surge was "stabilizing things, but fragile". Just what we need is retaliatory riots against the US in Iraq. And the Malaki government would very quickly fall.

And the US would be hung out to dry by Europe....who would not support the US allowing such an attack.

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PaddyMac22:

McSame, thats funny. I'm going to use that.

McCain will continue, and negative ads do work. They work very well. Take a look around you. Talk to some ordinary people. This works. You want to believe it is a "no-brainer" but it is not. Just talk to people, they will let you know. How many really know the facts? Maybe 5%. It's funny but sad, so dont dicount the republicans. McSame is a vaible canidate and president. Just ask.

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Batony:

"Before the Democrats' affirmative action lending policies became an embarrassment, the Los Angeles Times reported that, starting in 1992, a majority-Democratic Congress "mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their purchases of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers. Operating under that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been aggressive and creative in stimulating minority gains."

Under Clinton, the entire federal government put massive pressure on banks to grant more mortgages to the poor and minorities. Clinton's secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Andrew Cuomo, investigated Fannie Mae for racial discrimination and proposed that 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low- to moderate-income borrowers by the year 2001...."

I know we are not suppose to talk this...and the fact that the illegal immigrants who purchase homes are leaving..nevermind.

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sherman:

McCain has blown it twice now:

1. His VP pick is no longer helping him.
2. His campaign stunt with the bailout bill has backfired spectacularly.

We see polls showing ties or Obama leads in FL, NC and VA. These are must-win states for McCain. He's already done so much negative campaigning nobody believes anything he says anymore. It's not over yet, but McCain is making it harder and harder to climb back out of the hole.

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Commander_King:

I think it is time that Boomshak be banned from this site.His insane comments are getting annoying.

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Commander_King:

I think it is time that Boomshak be banned from this site.His insane comments are getting annoying.

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Commander_King:

I think it is time that Boomshak be banned from this site.His insane comments are getting annoying.

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PaddyMac22:

nomorerepubs,

yes, that good. believe what you want, fool yourself. you have to much faith in your neighbor.

yes that good.

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cinnamonape:

McCain just said on FOX that he's considering suspending his campaign again until Congress passes another bailout bill! LOL! "I'm really gonna get involved THIS time...and get the votes!"

Of course, if he does that means the Palin-Biden debate is "off".

What the he** is going on with this guy?

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Tyler:

This site would have about 10% the traffic in the comments section if it weren't for boomshak and his obstinant tinfoil-hattery. Leave him be. :)

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burrito:

@cinnamonape

McCain says : "I'm really gonna get involved THIS time..." ?? LOL, ROFL, ROFLMAO !!!

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boomshak:

@Commander_King:

Without me, this whole website would be one giant liberal cluster-f...

Well, you know.

Anyway, I make it fun :) What good is a Forum where everyone agrees?

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sherman:

Sorry, one more thing. It is not the mortgages of poor people that are causing this crisis. Please do some research. The crisis is being caused by middle-class people who tried to buy more house than they could afford. The banks didn't care and gave them whatever money they asked for. The re-finance game stopped and those same borrowers, who assumed their salaries would rise more than their payments, couldn't afford their houses. If it were just poor people, the system was built to handle those defaults, mostly in houses under $300k. It's the McMansion set that's causing the financial collapse today (you know, 500k to 700k houses that they built everywhere).

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boomshak:

NEWS FLASH! Just reported on CNBC:

Republicans may save this whole thing by convincing the SEC to give up "mark-to-market" accounting, thus making the bailout unnecessary.

If this goes though, Republicans could get credit for saving the whole thing!

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Commander_King:

For some reason I get the feeling you Boomshak are the only one who wants them to get credit.

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DecaturMark:

Don't forget the housing speculators were buying houses with no credit with the hopes of flipping them quickly in a rising market for a profit. It made everyone think that if they don't buy now, they will never be able to afford a home. So they purchased a home at an inflated price hoping that the home prices would continue to soar. The brokers were betting on the same thing. It did not.

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Tyler:

Agreed - there is nothing inherently wrong about encouraging lending to poor people, minorities, and people with bad credit... as long as the loans are of appropriate size, have an appropriate interest rate, and have an appropriate down payment.

The problem that led to this crisis was giving out loans that were far too big, or had an absurd teaser rate, or required far too little (or no) money down based on the assumption that the borrower could continually re-finance the loan whenever the payments were about to increase.

That kind of ridiculous lending wasn't at all limited to the poor, minorities, or people with bad credit, and it wasn't driven by encouragement to lend to them - it was driven by the ability of the mortgage broker to easily absolve himself of all risk immediately after making the bad loan by quickly pawning it off on someone else.

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glober:

@ Boomshak

So Boom, is there anything the Repubs did wrong in the last 8 years when it comes to the economy, foreign affairs,ethics, health care, finance? They must have did something wrong to be so far behind in the polls. Remember this is a center-right country (until Nov 4th at least)
The Dems did plenty of mistakes, they weren't that bad, but they were mistakes.
Tell me Boom.

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miatch:

@Boom

You are right, your madness is useful. Did you want to comment on intrade?

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Tyler:

@Boomshak

So wait - are you seriously claiming that you think the global economic crisis can be averted by changing accounting methods?

I think I'll posit that if this problem could be solved by rearranging spreadsheets, someone would have done that already.

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kerrchdavis:

I, for one, am eagerly anticipating the Republicans saving something for the first time in 16 years :)

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nick-socal:

@Boomshak, If what CNBC is reporting actually comes to fruition (you often get excited about something immediately before thinking about it) then so what? I guess that's good for those Congressional Republicans in their own election races back home. But it still ignores the fact that it was Bush and his administration who wanted the $700 billion bailout. And it was McCain who was for it before he was against it before he was for something like it again. I'm not saying Obama wasn't for it either, but come on. If it turns out to be as simple as the SEC changing a rule, how dumb does that make Bush, McCain, and Obama look? Real dumb. And so where's the net gain for McCain in this?

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DecaturMark:

@Tyler

"I think I'll posit that if this problem could be solved by rearranging spreadsheets, someone would have done that already."

Someone did do it already. It was a company called ENRON!

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Commander_King:

Don't count on it...the only thing they will try to save is their political careers.Note: McCain's countless stunts to try and take momentum from Obama despite the fact that his stunts could hurt the country.

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Mike_in_CA:

boomshak,

Republicans aren't going to get credit for saving the economy, even if they actually do. Therein lies the rub for McCain. The more he tries to help save the economy, the further he drops in the polls.

Public perception is difficult to change. This may infuriate you, because it may end up being wrong. but it's the truth. It's just how politics works. Republicans are blamed for the mess, and just because they tweak one part of one bill, the public ain't gonna let them off the hook.

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Mike_in_CA:

and also, boomshak,

just because the DOW goes up, or some other absurd metric, doesn't change underlying fundamentals. Public opinion is rigid, and often inflexible.

Exhibit A: Throughout the month of July Obama has ~3-5% lead in the polls. Now, beginning of October, he has about 4-6% lead in the polls. And growing. The FUNDAMENTALS don't change.

Wild polling swings are more often than not float with the MOE. I was a statistics major in college.

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falcon79:

DAMN DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY ALL THE RECENT STATE POLLS ARE NOT UPDATING ON THIS LIST IN POLLSTER??
ITS KILLING ALL THE FUN OF POLL WATCHING TO NOT HAVE THE POLLS UP :(

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PortlandRocks:

So cute Boomshak googling all day trying to find the silver lining for McCain. It's over buddy.

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AlanSnipes:

Boomshak,

Do you have a job or are you independently wealthy and are angry that a democratic administration may raise your taxes? You appear to have a lot of time on your hands to post inane comments. You don't believe in facts, that's why you are a Republican in the first place.

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BOOMFAIL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcyzsQH0QgY

Come on OHIO! Don't let them make get you discouraged with 10 hour waiting times in Democratic areas again this time! Make sure everyone gets out early to prevent another repeat of 2004!

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boomshak:

@Mike_in_CA:

We'll see. CNBC is talking about the Republican Plan on mark-to-market non-stop right now.

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boomshak:

@AlanSnipes:
Boomshak,

"Do you have a job or are you independently wealthy...?"

I am independently wealthy and have nothing better to do all day than argue with you moonbats :)

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boomshak:

Woohoo! Republicans have saved the economy! CNBC is ORGASMIC over this!

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Shannon,Dallas,Texas:

@boomshak

"No, actually if Palin performs well, McCain could pick up 10 points amongst white women"

She's gotten as many white women as she's going to get. The euphoria is over. If she performs poorly, which I expect she will, she will bring the ticket down another point or two. Otherwise, she's not going to be any benefit going forward for John McCain. Rule number 1 for V.P. candidates is "do no harm". She's already hurt the ticket and his chances.

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nick-socal:

@Boomshak. If this whole "the sky is falling and we're headed for a Depression doom and gloom" mantra turns out to be solved by a change in how the SEC accounts for things then there will be a lot of people who look dumb and a lot of Americans scratching their heads. AND a lot of questions. How does this benefit McCain?

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Batony:

I believe both parties hands are dirty in this mess. Sure the Republicans will take the heat, but neither party hands are clean in this. I am bound by contract not to mention my employer's practicesin this, but let me just say there were some nice bonuses going out.

If John McCain "suspends" his campaing again...just quit. I mean he doesn't see that no one bought his stunt last time, his poll numbers tanked immediately.

And let me say aren't we all lucky to have lived to witness the worst President in American history? What a disgrace.

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DecaturMark:

The old Mark-to-Market was the accounting practices used by Enron and other enorgy concerns in the 1990s. Congress changed the rules to Mark-to-Market to prevent these types of abuses. An now we want to go back? How crazy is that.

http://www.cfo.com/article.cfm/3002524?f=related

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PortlandRocks:

What would Republicans do without these voters?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/09/30/pallone.obama.sign.cf13

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PortlandRocks:

I know so many Americans who watch CNBC. LOL

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nick-socal:

Do you honestly think NO ONE had thought of something as simple as changing a rule at the SEC? And that is going to solve all these apparent problems in our economy? Remember, the Democratically led Congress HAD to take up the bill per the Presidents request. It's not like they just decided to make up the $700 billion bailout themselves.

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PortlandRocks:

This amazing excitement Boom speaks of isnt even on CNBC's website LOL This guy is delusional. He's so HUNGRY for good news about his failed party.

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boskop:

@boomshak

have you heard anything uner the radar on the two ships seized by the somali pirates?

there's some confusion on the one out of iran. some of the pirates are dead from skin abrasions etc.

let me know if you have the scuttlebutt on it.

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PortlandRocks:

BOOMSHAK woah..turn on Fox News. McCain just collapsed!

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nick-socal:

How would mark-to-market change the fact that the loans the banks and lenders have on their books are bad? Why would that suddenly make the lendees be able to pay their obligation?

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nick-socal:

@Portland. I don't have access to that. What happened?

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Viperlord:

Wow, you guys actually thought boom was taking anything he said from a article somewhere? I thought all along he was making it up.

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boomshak:

Even if you like Obama, THIS has got to creep you out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA

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kerrchdavis:

Obama just saved a baby from a burning building with his left hand and fixed the economy with his right! OMG! Turn on CNBC guys, they're having an ORGASM!

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Tyler:

SUSA just posted a poll for Georgia

Obama 44
McCain 52
[M+8]

which is not too surprising and in line with previous results. But the good news is the Senate poll that came with it:

Chambliss (R-i) 46
Martin (D) 44
[Chambliss+2]

This shows a distinct nosedive in support for Chambliss. He was polling at +17 in a SUSA survey just two weeks ago (Rasmussen polling confirms this trend over a longer period of time).

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BOOMFAIL:

OMG! OMG! Republicans save the world. The sun is shining. Happy days are here again.

Then he woke up.

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Justin:

Survey USA

New Jersey
Obama 52, McCain 42
Lautenberg(D) 51, Zimmer(R) 38

Georgia
Obama 44, McCain 52
Martin(D) 44, Chambliss(R) 46

Ohio
Obama 48, McCain 49

Indiana
Obama 45, McCain 48

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DecaturMark:

Tyler

Did you also notice in that GA poll that in early voting Obama had 64% and McCain had 35%? I think that is a precursor to things to come in other early voting states like OH.

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boomshak:

@Tyler,

Wild swings in a SUSA Survey? What else is new?

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boomshak:

You know, I have to say, Catie Kouric is one condescending b*tch.

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boomshak:

@kerrchdavis:

"Obama just saved a baby from a burning building with his left hand and fixed the economy with his right! OMG! Turn on CNBC guys, they're having an ORGASM!"

Man I really get under your skin, don't I? lol.

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DecaturMark:

In/Adv has O 51 M 45

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kerrchdavis:

@boomshak

Nah, you're just daily comedy. It's funny messing with people like you. You're the laughingstock of this entire forum and you don't have the brains to realize it. :D

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