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In 3 of todays 6 nationals Obama is +50% :-) According to BOOM he is still statistically tied with McSame

Help me John. We're going down. You betcha!

The numbers here are right on the money for the survey period, but that's likely more by good luck than good management, I think.

+7 lead for Obama? curse those liberal pollsters. What's that you say? Battleground is arguably the most conservative pollster around? They had McCain +2 when everybody else had Obama +6?

Liberal pollster: FAIL

Say it ain't so Joe!

IndependentThinker:

@sotonightthatimightsee

"GO AHEAD AND CHERRYPICK YOUR POLL, FOOL!

HOPE YOU'RE AS UPBEAT WHEN THEY CALL MOST STATES FOR MCCAIN ON NOV. 4TH LOL..WOULD PAY TO SEE YOUR DUMB FACE!"

you're a fr**king bitter As*hole ...
While you are accusing me of "cherrypicking" the Gallup poll you are doing the same by dismissing from your list the Ras one showing +8 for Obama. Actually you're the one who is cherrypicking polls cause you're making a list while ignoring the Ras one.I was announcing a just-released poll, check the time idiot

Go ahead, who cares that you're going to vote for Bush 3 times in a row, it won't be enough to put McPalinocchio over the top

Imbecile!

Hokie Dokie Mr McShame!

It has Obama up.... therefore this can't be right....

FAIL

It will be tied by this weekend... :))

Here's what you can expect from McCain tonight. If you want to see a "Maddog Tannon" routine, you'll be disappointed. McCain can't do that at a town-hall type of setting. He'll have to play the wise old grandpa who's years and wisdom will carry you through a crisis routine. In fact, get ready for this... McCain will actually try to turn the tables completely and may even say things like "Friends, (creepy grin) now is not the time for partisan bickering and smear campaigns. We have important issues to tackle. And I'm prepared to do that from day 1 of my administration." Yes.. just you watch. John McCain tonight will actually decry negative campaigning and plead for "sticking to the issues."

Battleground had the closest results in 1992, 1996, 2000 AND 2004. They were the only pollster to nail 1996's margin exactly, and were off by 0.10% in 2004. This is one to watch. Seriously.

If they have Obama ahead 7%, that's a big deal.

i predict good times on these threads election night!

Palin inciting racism.. lovely..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/campaign.wrap/index.html

gosh darn it, are we losing again John?

@dave101
Second that! However we still have to work hard.. we are in good position, few seconds left, a short field goal away.. but we still have to do it!

One thing to pay attention to is that GWU does not do Friday and Saturday.

I don't actually believe in pollster bias (at least for main outfits). They all *try* to get the most accurate results. But the there are many factors in getting a good sampling/weighting model, and different models produce different "leans". These people corrected a key part of their model when a criticism was made, last week, but their actual sample is very small for the survey period (which may not matter if -- as seems to be the case -- the real numbers are very stable).

That's why intelligent aggregation is the only sensible course of action. Today's crop of polls seem to be in line with yeterday's, though I haven't done the weighting yet.

Battleground +7 means it is probably Obama +12! This is amazing news - it gets better every day.

Gosh dang it, I guess McPalinocchio (best one yet) is going to tie this one up with one of those "Friends, Barack Obama wants to send your children to a school where they learn about sex and islam all day" "I know I don't have proof, since when does that matter??"
MCSHAME/FAILIN '08

Q. What does Obama and Bin Landen have in commom?

A.They both have friends that have bombed the Pentagon.

@ Greg in Charlotte

Q What does John McCain have in common with Osama Bin Laden?

A - He helped get him the weapons to start becomming a militant!

@greg in charlotte

Q. What do McCain and Al Qaeda Terrorists have in common?

A. They both can't fly a plane without crashing it.

NEWSFLASH!!! Obama's friends, Acorn headquarters is now being raided by the Feds. Several boxes where taken away for evidnece.

greg in charlotte:

You've posted the same thing twice, and corrected the spelling once that I've seen, and you have not had proper spelling in the names, even in the CORRECTION! You're obviously a very educated individual.

Just for future reference, it's Barack Obama, and Osama Bin Laden. Doesn't make your accusation relevant or true, but that's how you spell the names. I won't even start into the myriad of inaccuracies in your statement.

thanks for the spelling lesson. But you get the point.

@ KErchDAViS!!!

You are one funny mofo!!!

Weighted average margin for today's nationals: Obama +7.17 (yesterday +6.96).

So Obama improves. Smear backfires?

Girls the point of the Q and A thing is to be funny. Sorry try again.

"greg in charlotte:
thanks for the spelling lesson. But you get the point."

I do, but you obviously don't. The point is that your statement is absolutely full of flaws. You're a complete idiot, who's only skill is using the copy/paste function to annoy us with crap spewed out of the ass of the propaganda websites that you visit. Please spare us your idiocy. We're not interested.

@drinkwine

LOL :D

greg in charlotte:

"thanks for the spelling lesson. But you get the point."

Yes we do.. you're a blithering moron.

I once heard Obama say "I don't care if the baby is still alive, just drop it on the floor or something"

true story

@greg in charlotte

Are you lost? I'm sure there are forums out there for you to discuss bull**** with other trolls, wing nuts and red necks.

greg in BLUE NC is a stupid racist idiot, you betcha. Can't wait to see NC as one of the first announced states on November 4th to go for Obama.

Here's a special treat just for the loser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H25lz7gchaw

I suspect McCain's numbers are going to fall off a cliff when the media reports that he was on the board of a private group that supplied aid to Osama Bin Laden.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/07/mccain-on-tuesday-preside_n_132653.html

greg from Charlotte

How is that McCan't ground game over in North Carolina...???? HAHAHAHAHAH non-existent.
Good luck in 2012! better yet 2016!!!

He's your canidate not mine.

@greg

I once heard McCain say that he didn't care if his wife was crippled, he was going to cheat on her and leave her anyway.

Oh wait..he actually DID that.

My opinion on McCain's hard hitting strategy:

While I am socially very left, and foreign policy wise very conservative, I was leaning Obama but was still open to McCain until about mid September. He blew it when he parachuted into the congress bailout negations. I lost respect for him because it was all make believe leadership (he doesn't even sit on a banking or finance committee). Now I consider calling Obama a guy who pals around with terrorists as gutter politics.

McCain is going to lose more than this election. His maverick status is gone too.

Maverick = guy who loses elections by being a moron.

Thanks Greg for the jokes. As a result I just sent theObama fund another $100 and the Hagan campaign in North Carolina $100 dedicated to you. Keep it up.

Before you vote for Obama you should be force to watch a live birth abortion.

You Libs would probably enjoy it. First the baby is born screaming in pain, bleeding, gagging for breath. But you can't help the tiny baby you can only sit there and hold it til it dies. Sometimes the baby will live for about 45 minutes. I think you all should volunteer at your local hospital to hold a few of these babies for their short stay here on earth. then see if you would still support your man Barry. At least then you would know what your voting for.

@cinna

Good idea. I think I will do the same right now.

Q: what's the difference between greg in charlotte and Osama Bin Laden?

A: one is an illiterate, propaganda spewing troglodyte, while the other is Osama Bin Laden.

@MN

lol! How ya been?

I don't care what you say about me, I'm not running for president. I think all the cold weather in MN effects a man's judgement.

@MN Love that you busted out the "Trog" on him. Excellent.

I agree with you Greg, that is horrible. But please read this, at a Catholic Hospital.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40465

It seems that this practice allows hospitals to perform this procedure to avoid calling it an abortion.

Please post more information on this subject if you have any.

Sorry all. I posted the wrong link to the story about John McCain supplying aid to Osama Bin Laden. Here is the right link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/why-mccains-time-with-cou_n_132470.html

Yeah, I'm sure the majority of the US is being brainwashed into voting for the evil liberal....

Obama gains 17 pts in Western NC after his visit to Asheville, leads 54-37! Now this is not a 'scientific' poll like Ras, Gallup, etc, but still.

sorry, link:

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2008/10/power-of-showing-up.html

greg in charlotte-
Seriously do you give a rat's ass about the children killed and injured by US bombs and missles in Iraq and Afganistan?

We know your answer. "Screw'em they're ragheads!" Isn't that what you would say.
Or you would say that they should be grateful cause we are bringing them freedom. So let's not have anymore lectures on morality.

You dumb cracker!

@greg in Charlotte...

Maybe. The cold weather idea would at least explain how Sarah Palin ever got elected to anything.

New PPP Ohio Poll , Obama up by 6

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Ohio_1007785.pdf

Bonzi: Thanks for that, I loled. On the subject of morality, perhaps he would care to lecture the troops in Iraq for contributing to Obama over McCain by a 6-to-1 ratio? Maybe he would tell them they are all evil liberals and should be honored to stay there indefinitely against the wishes of the Iraqis?

So greg in BLUE NC, are you suggesting abortions will rise when Obama is in office vs. what they have been under Bush? Are you really afraid that Obama is going to make all the women have abortions, or just the white women in your eyes? If you actually paid attention to the position of the candidates instead of only watching FIXED NOISE, you may actually learn something instead of seeing things with Palin goggles on all the time.
Pathetic Mcainiacs.

@Greg

I think you're a great Obama recruiter. If I was a McCain supporter I'd certainly switch after listening to you. Keep up the good work!

greg in charlotte - I go with the republicans on abortion... keep the government out of it. Oh, wait, that's regulating wall street they want the government out of. I almost forgot....

off topic: does anybody get that geico commercial with the caveman playing tennis?

A good question for Obama to ask McCain tonight: Senator, can you name any difference between you and George Bush on the economy?

@dave101:

"off topic: does anybody get that geico commercial with the caveman playing tennis?"

No. It is totally stupid, but we are talking about it aren't we? I think the idea is make something so stupid and annoying everyone talks about it.

@Viperlord:

"A good question for Obama to ask McCain tonight: Senator, can you name any difference between you and George Bush on the economy?"

Actually, I think there is about a 1000% chance that will be asked.

Bush's policies didn't wreck this economy. The Democrats refusal to rein in Fannie Mae did. Everything else grew from that.

dave101,

I don't remember that particular ad, but I think that their point is: "even a caveman can do it." I really can't tell :-)

the current credit crises stems from two primary catalysts when combined. 1) one of the greatest over supplies of credit (very low interest rates since 2001) in modern market history. It was a credit bubble waiting to pop. Combine that with 2) unregulated and opaque subrpime securitization market (of which Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were only an acerbating part of, not the primary cause.)

The credit bubble led to a mini housing bubble (I say "mini" because if it wasn't for the securitized mortgages, we wouldn't need a bailout - real estate markets have been worse before, with out the toxic fallout we have now), which blind sided the securitization market, and poof, we got the credit crises.

IMAGINE THIS:

It is 2006. The Democrats are campaigning. Their platform is this:

"If you elect us and give us control of Congress, in two years:

1. We will be in the midst of a global economic meltdown.
2. Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers will be bankrupt.
3. Unemployment will be 6.2%.
4. We will be in a major recession.
5. Our entire banking system will be collapsing.
6. We will have to do a $700 billion dollar bailout on the economy.
7. $2 trillion of American retirement funds will be wiped out in a week.

And in conclusion, we promise not to take credit for any of it.

Vote Democrat!"

Can you just imagine? Seriously?

You know I feel very bad about abortions but I also feel really bad about how the Reps try to play with this dramatic subject and manipulate people. Reps listen to this: NOBODY is for abortions, and a huge majority of people believe it is a terrible failure. Do you
guys really think Dems and liberals are "pro-abortion"?!! What a nonsense. Democrats just try to see things in a pragmatic way. Here is what Obama says: WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS EACH YEAR. And we all agree on that. When an abortion takes place, it is never for pleasure. Stop putting all the religion into that, and start seing things in a human way please. Stop using these babys and these women for your cruel political interests.

I repeat. Superficially low interest rates and unregulated securitization markets are the primary catalysts (see above) for the current credit crises

I just hope like hell that Barack Obama's grand promises are better than the Democrats were in 2006.

Promises, promises.

In 2006, we had a great economy:
4.6 GDP
4.7 Unemployment
12,000 Stock Market
$2.35 Gas

and the Democrats promised they would make it even better.

F*cking liars!

@boomshak

Hey moron, I thought I asked you to prove your stupid innuendo. I can point to the legislative decisions that caused this mess. Show me the "democratic poison pill" that you are claiming.

I keep asking you keep not answering. Who are you Sarah Palin?

@boompalin

What nothing yet? You gonna' wink at me now? Where are you FACTS?

Don't take it personally, boomshak runs away when required to provide proof.

Oh please, while the Democrats have had a majority in Congress for the past two years, between vetoes and filibusters nothing significant has been accomplished that didn't go along with Republican wishes. It's not as if they got elected and immediately passed the Real Estate Market Tanking Act of 2007.

It's also worth noting that the subprime mortgage crisis actually was beginning to stir as early as '05 and '06, in the form of high default rates on those mortgages. That's before the Democratic congress was even *elected*. And that congress was in power for less than six months by the time New Century started tanking. Do you seriously believe that ANY Congress, Republican or Democrat, could have driven the market from Good to Screwed in just six months?

@[nemesis]:

"Don't take it personally, boomshak runs away when required to provide proof."

Lol, no actually, I have a business to run. Now let me read back and see where someone asked for proof:

Ummm, nemesis, help me out here - what am I supposed to offer proof about? I can't find it.

@OneAngryDwarf:
@boomshak

"Hey moron, I thought I asked you to prove your stupid innuendo. I can point to the legislative decisions that caused this mess. Show me the "democratic poison pill" that you are claiming.

I keep asking you keep not answering. Who are you Sarah Palin?"

My point is that if the Democrats had run on THAT platform, NO ONE would have voted for them. Now that we have this steaming pile, they are taking no credit.

@OneAngryDwarf:

Let me give you an analogy:

You own a house with lousy plumbing. The toilet doesn't flush right, the pipes leak and the bath water never gets very hot.

Ok, so you fire your current plumber and hire a new on who promises you he can fix everything that is wrong.

2 years later, the whole house collapses because the plumbing has all exploded and flooded everything.

You say to the plumber, "What the hell did you do to my house?!"

The plumber responds, "Hey, it was messed up when I got here!"

Then you respond, "I know, THAT'S why I hired you!"

MORAL OF THE STORY:
Now tell me how that is any different that the Dems claiming no credit for the mess we in now.

poor boomcrap, his heads about to pop!

@boomshak:

You keep saying that the economy was “great” until the Democrats “took over” in 2006.
Then answer the following:

1) Which branch of government actually runs the government, i.e. “executes” the laws passed by Congress and writes regulations to implement those laws?

2) Who appoints the Secretary of the Treasury?

3) Who appoints the Chairman of the Federal Reserve?

4) Who appoints the Chairman of the SEC?

5) Who appoints the head of any other agency involved with regulating the economy?

6) How many House votes does it take to override a Presidential veto?

7) How many Senate votes does it take to override a Presidential veto?

8) How many votes does it take to invoke cloture (i.e. stop an actual or threatened filibuster) in the Senate?

9) How many seats in the House of Representatives are currently held by Democrats?

10) How many seats in the Senate are currently held by Democrats?

11) George W. Bush is a member of which political party?

Here’s a real analogy that may help you. Prior to 2006 there was minivan filled with Republicans. Every time they came to an intersection they took a right. In 2006, two of the passengers in the very back seat of the minivan were replaced by Democrats. They continue on with the Republicans driving and every time they came to an intersection the two Democrats in the back of the minivan said “take a left” but the driver of the van ignored them and kept going right at greater speed until eventually the minivan crashes. Now you’re trying to blame the two passengers in the back whose advice was ignored for causing the crash.

The Democrats are no more in control of the government than they were driving the minivan in the analogy above. Your cause and effect argument is fallacious and holds no water at all. This is basic civics and basic logic. You still don’t get it.

@Napoleon Complex:

List the legislation proposed by Democrats in the last two years that Bush vetoed which would have prevented this problem?

If Democrats aren't responsible for ANYTHING, why are the there?

@boomshak:

We've already had this discussion and I've already showed you the legislation. What is it about Articles I and II of the Constitution that you don't understand?

The fact of the matter is that anyone who claims that the Democrats don't bear some responsibility for the current economic mess either is purely partisan or just hasn't done any actual looking into the matter.

That said, while the Dems did have a hand in it, what was far more integral to this collapse is the past 30 years of Republican economic thought and capped off by the past 8 years where Bush lead by thinking that tax cuts for the rich, fewer regulations and advice for all us regular folk to "go shopping" would cut it. It didn't and here we are now.

There's plenty of blame to go around, and the Dems aren't without some fault. but the majority of it lays on the Republican policies since good old Reagan.

Well, Gallup just came out with its tracker -- not a pretty sight for Palin/McCain