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11 point swing...

Nothing new. We know aready that McCain is toast and by keeping up his slime more and more indies will see the light!

NEW OBAMA/ACORN AD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dlnt9maBJA

Keep up the KKK rallys McCain/Palin! We are loving the results in the polls!

Astounding, and in line with one month swings in most other polls.

Wow Boomcrap and Kipnip must be trolling at Hannity's website. Where have they been "dog gone it"!

boomshakWindBag! Where ya been? Read for a sleeewwwwww of desperate you tube posts I C!:)

I note that RCP has asjusted their electoral map. WV is now a toss-up. VA is now leaning Obama. Remaining toss-ups are NV, CO, MO, IN, OH, NC and FL. RCP count is Obama 277, McCain 158, Toss-up 103.

With no toss-up states, RCP has NV, CO, OH, NC and FL going Obama; McCain would win MO, IN and WV. Total without toss-ups Obama 353, McCain 185.

By the way, for people watching GA, RCP has Georgia as McCain.

This is the key:

Obama appears to have broadened his coalition of support and made inroads with groups that have not reliably embraced him over the course of the long presidential campaign. He now leads McCain among both men (54 percent to 40 percent) and women (50 percent to 41 percent). He now wins every age group of voters—including those over 65 years of age, who back him over McCain 49 to 43 percent. Supporters of Hillary Clinton, as many as a fifth of whom had at one point told pollsters they'd support McCain over Obama, now back the Democratic nominee 88 percent to 7 percent.

INTERNALS OF THIS POLL SO FRAUDULENT THAT EVEN OBAMA SUPPORTERS MUST LAUGH:

Republican 25 (26%)
Democrat 38 (40%)
Independent 31 (32%)

So this steaming pile of bullsh*t gives Democrats a 14 POINT SAMPLING ADVANTAGE.

What utter BS.

Double digit polls by the weekend, oh ya baby!

Landslide Baby Landslide

@ Boomshak

Thanks for giving us a great example of why Obama has opened up a borderline double digit lead nationally.

@Boomshak
I'm a pretty hardcore politico and I can tell you I have no idea what ACORN is. McCain has completely lost his bearing about who he needs to win this election. He needs the independent voters, not the harcore wing. He's really spinning his wheels with this stuff.

Boomshak: "So this steaming pile of bullsh*t gives Democrats a 14 POINT SAMPLING ADVANTAGE."

Which is right on line with their 10-15 point voter registration advantage.

So, what do you Obama supporters think of the UNBIASED 14 point sampling advantage in this poll?

You will also note that this sampling advantage generated the SAME EXACT RESULTS as Gallup. You can only imagine what his sample looks like.

BS. Stinking rotten, MSM-biased BS.

You people are fools.

Rasmussen says that Democrats have a 5.6 point sampling advantage and that is based upon 20,000 calls over six week.

This poll overshoots that by almost 10 points in favor of Democrats.

Utter tripe.

boomshak that ACORN ad was FLAT STUPID. People will be getting their 401K statements next week. Then they see this piece of **** commercial and they will say "WHO CARES... WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY MCCAIN? YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL FOR 8 YEARS, and prior to 2006 for 10 years in congress! Good move McCain. BRILLIANT!:)

Guess Gallup and Research 2000 not so much the outliers afterall, hey boombatty?!

Boom, not talking about the polls and issues anymore? I see you drank the McCain kool-aid ...

BOOM I hate to spoil your excitement over ANOTHER failed poll but I believe National #'s for Republican registration are somewhere around 26-28%! People are EMBARASSED. Look at the high # of independents. This is reasonable.

Odds are Newsweek's next poll will show a tightening. I'm sure Obama is up strongly, but this poll's internals are strange. Obama doing better among men than women?

Not likely.

Did someone say they "don't know who ACORN is"?

WTF? ACORN has been all over the news for VOTER FRAUD in 16 different states. What rock are you people hiding under?

boomshak what was the voter ID advantage in today's FOX NEWS POLL? Huh?:) Obama up 7 baby! But tell McCain to keep campaigning EXACTLY how he has been. We love it!

@BoomShak

No need to get angry amigo ... The real poll is on Nov 4th and the racist democrats will burn their own candidates when it comes to D-day ... They have already shown their colors with Clinton ...

Boom they found 60 registrations with fake names. You do realize RETARD that these people wouldn't be able to vote? Don't you? ROFL

no wonder boomshak likes McCain. They have something in common:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g

RAGE!!!
TEMPER!!!

BoomWINDBAG thinks "Mickey Mouse" and "Bon Jovi" will be able to walk into a polling station and vote DEM! LOL God these people are so desperate and pathetic. It's fun.

WOW, just WOW. McCain just said he's going to find the cause of Autism. And the ultra-right-wing nutters say that Obama thinks that HE'S the messiah. Give me a break.

@NW Patrick:

"BOOM I hate to spoil your excitement over ANOTHER failed poll but I believe National #'s for Republican registration are somewhere around 26-28%! People are EMBARASSED. Look at the high # of independents. This is reasonable."

You are a f*cking idiot my friend. Rasmussen, based upon 20,000 calls over 6 weeks has determined that it is 39% Democrats, 33.6% Republicans.

This poll is complete garbage from a Magazine 100% in the tank for Obozo.

You guys better be careful, you keep this sh*t up and you are going to depress your own turnout.

VivalaRevolucion the "Racist Democrats" have PAID for their stance in the 60's on civil rights by losing the South year after year. What planet are you from man? Seriously EDUCATE. YOU CAN DO IT!

Boomshak,

If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:

Obama 50% McCain 44%

See something? Democrats are united behind Obama. His lead, just like in Rass, is the exact same advantage in Dem. party ID.

Look at this:
Among Hillary supporters, Obama 88% Mc 7%

Democrats are United now. Thank you McNasty!!!

@NW Patrick:

Today's Fox Poll was bullsh*t. Rasmussen has McCain at 45 and Fox has him at 39? Bullsh*t.

Did you all see that weak new ad from McCain about Acorn? LOL Funny stuff.

Did they even research the situation? I mean, the information is right there in front of them and they refuse to get it right.

We have an economic crisis and McCain is afraid to talk about it or offer up any worthwhile solutions.

There he goes again, putting party first and country last.

BoomRetard,

They self identify you idiot. It's a random sample of Americans. If you are an independent and going to vote for Obama, you may say you are Democratic. If you a republican mad at McCain you may say independent. The chips fall as they call.

Get a grip. There is not a conspiracy against the entire republican party with every poll in America. Or do you believe that there is? What pollster is accurate? Name it you coward...All you are in a ****ing lame excuse generator. Piss off, or read a book, or do something to smarten up besides hang out at freerepublic or redstate you sorry ass.

[Norm] Coleman told reporters that he would not be appearing at a planned rally with McCain this afternoon. Could it be McCain's sliding polling numbers in Minnesota? His attacks on Obama? Coleman said he needs the time to wo
rk on suspending his own negative ads.

"Today," he said, "people need hope and a more positive campaign is a start."

-there are some intelligent people in the GOP.

BOOM! STATE ELECTION OFFICES, on a national average show DEM advantage ABOVE 10%. This is not a pollster. This is REGISTERED REAL VOTERS.

boomshak you're so sad. This is just 1 poll yes. The fact of the matter is this race is OVER. Your party will get it's ASS KICKED from governerships, to the presidency, the congress...Nov. 4th you should go hide. Seriously. This will be a mandate from Americans of historic proportions. And you know it:)

Me engaging with a troll:

@boomshak. Even if you don't buy the internals of party representation, the fact that Obama went from 46 to 52 over the last month since the last poll by Newsweek (as the internals would have been consistent over the two polls) is meaningful and represents a significant gain.

OK, MORONS, WHAT THE HELL IS OBAMA'S BRILLIANT PLAN FOR THE ECONOMY?

1. Dramatically raising taxes on the small business that employ the MOST people? That's brilliant!
2. A tax credit of $1.40 a day for working Americans? That'll pay the bills!
3. Incentives for small businesses? Unless they are more than the taxes it is a net loss of jobs. If they offset the taxes, why do the taxes?

What else? What other brilliant plans does Obama have that no one else has?

Good for you Coleman. Looks like REASONABLE GOP members will begin to RUN from McCain. He's gone mad!

Boom-
In case you didn't notice this is an RV poll, ie. no filter. People are dumping the Rep party like they were lepers! It's called the bandwagon effect. Once people think one side is going to win they start siding with that party because they don't want to be identified with the losers.

BoomRetard,

You ignorant ****. Read the internals. Voters self identify. The chips fall where they will in this poll. People will say they are democrat even if they may be independent but voting for democrat. Or a republican might say they are indepedent if they are pissed at McCain. It's a sample based on calling Americans randomly.

Is there one pollster you believe you whiny bithc? Name them...Who is not in this vast conspiracy of yours?

Read a book...Do something to smarten up besides reading free republic or redstate or staring blisfully at fox news.

Your friend,

Mystic Laker

PS. Do you like the new asshole we are ripping you? I hope you do, because I am enjoying it you ignorant ****.

boomshak get mad Boom! Convince us the Republican party will suddenly do better after 8 years of UTTER COMPLETE FAILURE. RECORD Debt, jobs down, world opinion against us, an illegal war, Cmon! Tell America why THIS TIME they will be different! YOU CAN DO IT!

Thanks to McNasty's attacks democrats are railling around Obama. McCain is demonstrating that he is NO MAVERICK, that he is cozy enough with the most radical wing of his party. Nothing brings people together than having a common enemy. In this case, McCain took off his mask and let us see him for whom he is: just another Neo-con/anything-goes Republican.

Thank you McNasty :-)!!!

This is interesting. It's called McCain’s Rage. Even the former head of the Arizona Republican Party doesn’t want Lil’ Napoleon near the nuclear button.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g

If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:

Obama 50% McCain 44%

See something? Democrats are united behind Obama. His lead, just like in Rass, is the exact same advantage in Dem. party ID.

Look at this:
Among Hillary supporters, Obama 88% Mc 7%

Democrats are United now. Thank you McNasty!!!

Come on Boom! Tell us what positive change McCain and Palin are going to bring us...Please, you ignorant baboon.

Come on boomspin! Persuade us McCain-Palin will do anything but make our situation worse@

boomshak:

1. Dramatically raising taxes on the small business that employ the MOST people? That's brilliant!

Do some research. Copy/Paste from the drudge report doesn't count.

2. A tax credit of $1.40 a day for working Americans? That'll pay the bills!

$1.40 a day works out to $510, which is a big deal. That's a good chunk of a months rent for a lot of people.

3. Incentives for small businesses? Unless they are more than the taxes it is a net loss of jobs. If they offset the taxes, why do the taxes?

If you buy the BS about 50% of small businesses getting a big tax hike, I don't think there's much we can do to help you.

@Boomshak
The Rasmussen tracker is a poll which includes LEANERS. The Fox poll today did not include Leaners - got it?

BOOMSHAK.... you are racists, piece of sh*t! Also, it is obvious that you and the Mccain supporters are DESPERATE!! How does it feels to chase straws? Mccain is acting so freaky ERRATIC, jumping from one issue to the next! It is also laughable. And this thing with the Newsweek cover of Palin??? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME????

Boom, you loser, I don't know a single person other than you currently self-identifying as Republican.

Looking at these pathetic Republicans over the last few days reminds me of Ralph Fiennes' character in Shindler's List, who yelled "Heil Hitler" even as the chair was kicked out from under him while on the gallows. Give me a break, people!

palin was a Dstudent in highschool and it showed on her sat exam!
Stick t obeing a hockey mom toots....

http://buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores

@thoughtful:

You are a smart guy. You can't POSSIBLY think the 14 point sampling advantage to democrats in this poll is fair. You take that out and this poll is right where Rasmussen's is, +5.

This is pure, 100% propaganda. get ready for liberal rule, this is what it will be like.

palin was a D student in highschool and it showed on her sat exam!
Stick t obeing a hockey mom toots....

http://buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores

William F. Buckley's son just endorsed Obama

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-10/the-conservative-case-for-obama/

STOP WITH THE RACIST ****! Boom hasn't made any racist comments that I know of, Gregmoron is the racist. But carry on disproving his neoconservative talking points.

carl 29

Great point. In the end it took McCain being McCain to totally unite the Democratic party.

@boom....

Don't you understand. This is not weighted. This is how the 1000 people identified themselves. What don't you get? What is so hard about it?

What is becoming more apparent in the + 5 RAS may be an outlier.

Liberal rule? What is this, a quote from a conservative propaganda pamphlet? We've seen how well conservative "Rule" works, lol.

pardon my french...but hell yea!!!

@[nemesis]:

In this City of Idiots, you are Mayor.

Try to follow me. Obama says he will raise taxes only on individuals making more than $250,000 a year.

Most those "individuals" are actually small business owners filing as Sub S Corps. Since they make over $250,000 a year, they are the bigger companies.

And what do the bigger companies do? Duh, they emplo the most people. And what do employers do when you destroy their profits with taxes? They LAY PEOPLE OFF dumb ass.

Geesh, I guess being a moron IS a prerequisite for being a liberal!

Boy, Rethugs are sure ANGRY, aren't they?

Lose with some grace for crying out loud, gosh darn it!

Look at this:

BASED ON VOTERS WHO HAVE SEEN McCAIN ADS

a. Are too negative
yes 56% No 41%

Has seeing these ads made you more likely or less likely to vote for McCain, or have they not made much difference either way?

6% More likely
18% Less likely

Obama gets a net positive on the message of his ads.
==============================

BASED ON VOTERS WHO HAVE SEEN OBAMA ADS

a. Are too negative
Yes 29% No 68%

BASED ON REGISTERED VOTERS

18 More likely
9 Less likely

McNasty gets a net NEGATIVE for the message in his ads.

Boomshak...go jump off a bridge.

@Boomshak

I'm not happy with the Gender results in this poll, the ID isn't so much of a big deal as Republicans are thin on the ground at the moment.

I think that you agree that Obama has at least a 5 point lead. That's a landslide on Nov 4th.

@Viperlord:

"STOP WITH THE RACIST ****! Boom hasn't made any racist comments that I know of, Gregmoron is the racist. But carry on disproving his neoconservative talking points."

Excuse me, but what did I say that was racist? Tying Obama to the fraudsters at ACORN? That isn't racist, that's a fact jack. They are under investigation for voter fraud in 16 different states.

boomshack, correct me if I'm wrong, but one conclusion we can draw is that regardless of party affiliation or who does the polling Obama appears to be beating McCain in a landslide. The landslide is defined by a 7-11 point margin, depending on the poll you take.

RCP is sure gonna look purdy once the old polls fall off this weekend, you betcha!

Boom can you not read? I said you weren't a racist.

@thoughtful:

You guys do realize you are shooting yourselves in the foot with these BS polls don't you?

Yeah sure, the moonbats would show up on the surface of the Sun to vote for their Communist Leader, but the Independents, the ones you need? If they see Obama ahead by 11 they won't bother.

Meanwhile these bogus polls utterly piss of the Republican base.

Keep doing it.

Boom,

The Fox poll allows for the choice of both other or undecided and doesn't ask which way you might be leaning if the election were held today. This is a more traditional way of polling than what Rass and Gallup use in their tracking polls. I do agree that Rass is a more reliable pollster than Gallup though(both are Republican leaning organizations).

George W. Hoover!

Stupider and stupider, that seems to be boom's pattern here.

@Viperlord:

"Boom can you not read? I said you weren't a racist."

You just need to write it better.

So Boomshak. Ok let's calm down. We had your tax policy for 8 years. Now what? HOW DID IT WORK?

Isn't BUSH the one turning our country into Communists with all the control over Banks, etc.??

If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:

Obama 50% McCain 44%

See something? Democrats are united behind Obama. His lead, just like in Rass, is the exact same advantage in Dem. party ID.

Look at this:
Among Hillary supporters, Obama 88% Mc 7%

Democrats are United now. Thank you McNasty!!!

No you deluded neoconservative jackass retard, it was perfectly clear. I very clearly said you hadn't made any racist comments.

@boomshak

You know I have never berated you, and I have congratulated you in the past for your more sober and cogent comments. You are not showing that side right now.

OH MY GOD! Now Michelle has ties to Ayers because "his wife worked at her hospital." LOL

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_campaign_goes_after_mic.php

SO WHY IS NEWSWEEK CREATING BS POLLS LIKE THIS?

It is simple. Obama's internal polling is showing that McCain's attacks on Obama's character are working.

So he calls Newsweek and asked them to create this silly poll. The idea is to make McCain think that hsi attacks aren't having an effect and give them up.

But McCain has his own internal polling and he KNOWS it is working.

You yourself quoted "Boom hasn't made any racist comments I know of" Do you really not know what that means?

boomshak:

You're kinda jumping to conclusions calling me a liberal. I personally feel gay marriage and abortion are wrong. I just don't think it's right to push my religious beliefs on somebody else.
I consider myself an independent, as I always look at all candidates and make an informed decision. I also take the time to research new stories to see if they are indeed true before I spew crap all over the forums, which is, I guess, one thing that distinguishes us.

In Rasmussen Obama's lead is also equal to Democratic party Adv. This means that Democrats are finally united behind their candidate. See why McNasty is on his knees adoring the Right: He has no hope on bringing Hillary's people to his fold.

BoomFail,

Bush is a ultra nationalist fascist just like his Grandpa, Prescott Bush(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush) and not a communist.

boomshak he also called Zogby, Gallop, Rasmussen, Hotline, and GWU right? ROFL
You are the funniest little man I've ever met.

All these polls are made up. McShame is really WINNING by 10. The MSM just doesn't want you to know that. The economy is fine. You all are a bunch of whiners! I'm ANGRY!! Reformer. Maverick!
PUKE

@m913:

Sorry, but BS POLLS base upon REDICULOUS SAMPLES just for the purposes of PROPAGANDA really really piss me off.

The problem is, this utter bullsh*t poll that is in no way scientific will lead every single news program all night with NO DISCUSSION give to the sample size.

People will swallow it hook lije and sinker and thast f*cking PISSES ME OFF!

nemesis I think divorce is wrong. If you want to protect marriage, why don't straight people QUIT DIVORCING?

boomshak,

Those attacks are helping to bring democrats home. Now Obama adv. is the exact same as Democratic party ID. even according to Rasmussen.

Boom, you think Newsweek does Obama's bidding? OK, now you've entered tin foil hat area. You should get some help, soon, dude.

BS polls like right wing Zogby? Neoconservative Fox News? Polls you yourself have cited in the past Are you really suggesting they're covering for Obama? Please.

ROFLMAO!

Boomshak at his absolute best today. You gotta hand it to him people! I'm still waiting for that tie he was predicting for last Sunday.

boomshak

Man you need to borrow a pill from Cindy McCain!

If this helps boomshak: I used to be a Republican, through March 2000. I read George W. Bush's economic policy statements in early 2000 and became very conflicted. By 2004 I had seen enough and registered Democrat. It's OK to acknowledge, as I did in a period of soul searching, that one's longtime party has left one. I've been there. I'm not one to say the Democrats are perfect. But until the GOP shakes loose its religious demons, it's not a party that a genuine freedom loving conservative can love. I share that in case it helps as a catalyst for your thoughts.

Wingnuts are a bunch of ANGRY, irrational loons. Blah Blah Blah

Have I mentioned.........

Landslide baby Landslide

"WTF? ACORN has been all over the news for VOTER FRAUD in 16 different states. What rock are you people hiding under?"

Looking at the facts, ACORN's minor transgressions in voter registration appear very slight when compared to various Republican efforts to suppress the AA vote, stop recounts, spread rumours that unpaid parking tickets or foreclosure disqualify from voting, etc. etc.

Frankly it amazes me that the Republicans can't come up with anything more substantive than this. They've really thrown in the kitchen sink and the McCain campaign is floundering without a plan.

Seeing the Republicans in a state of panic is very rewarding.

Boom probably right on the sample being to high....
RCP shows it at 10.4
National registration shows it at around 10

Still leaves Senator McCann down 8pts witch is probably right.

The only thing we don't know is what % of Republicans are now calling themselves independents and how many independents that are now calling themselves Democrats...probably 1-2% based on the economic crisis.

I was before gallup before I was against it. I was for Rasmussen before I was against it.

Cherry picking swine.

NW Patrick:

I also agree divorce is wrong. Again, it's for religious reasons, and I don't feel that it's right to push those beliefs on anybody else. I didn't say anything about "wanting to protect marriage." I, personally, tend to shy away from candidates that push banning same-sex marriage or abortions, purely because it's a little arrogant to try and tell other people how they should live their lives.

BTW, I have a relative in a same-sex marriage. Again, his choice. I don't hold it against him.

Also, I've read articles that ACORN is not deliberately perpetrating fraud or anything of the source, in their rush they're just not doing close to a adequate job of cracking down on false registration.

@boomshak

there is a very real danger that Obama will not get his folks to the poll if complancey sets in.

On the other hand Repub turnout in the face of a hopeless caused led by a guy McCain who is really lacking, may be very low.

Personally Repub turnout low Dem turnout high - big overwhelming 395 EVs Obama election - that's my forecast.

@Evolve

But boom won't believe anything other than the 5.7% party affiliation difference that Rasmussen predicts.

Even if there is the possibility of record AA turnout, record youth turnout, a HUGE enthusiasm gap, a great GOTV effort and perhaps the greatest ground game in the history of mankind, nothing can change the fact that THE DIFFERENCE CAN ONLY BE 5.7%.

Personally, I don't give a rats ass. With the most conservative estimate of party affiliation difference, Obama still leads by 5-7 points which is:

LANDSLIDE BABY LANDSLIDE!!!

Boom harp on the media all you want. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A PARTY LOSES ALL CREDIBILITY.

I'm guessing Obama's EV count to be in the mid to high 300s.

Boomshak, those people self-identified themselves, the poll wasn't conducted based on party ID. So show me how the demographics are skewed towards people identifying unfairly towards the Democrats or shut up. The Republican brand is not popular at the moment so while this poll is likely a bit too high in favor of Obama is childish to attack every poll that doesn't go your way. But what else to expect from you.

We let Boom drive the Narrative far too much in these discussions. So instead lets talk about how happy people are with the republican economy and how polls like this one reflect actually human dissatisfaction with the Bushtoberfest.

Bushtoberfest is defined as a period of time where the world wide financial markets fall completely apart due to deregulation and incompetence. Then the stock market drops 3000 points.

Please credit me when using the word Bushtoberfest in future posts.

Viperlord:
"I'm guessing Obama's EV count to be in the mid to high 300s."

I second that...

OK, OK, F*CK JOHN MCCAIN - IN WILL NEVER DEFEND HIS SORRY ASS AGAIN:

Just now, on the campaign trail, THIS happened:

A serviceman stood up in the crowd and told John McCain that "he was afraid of the type of Supreme Court Justices Obama would nominate".

NOW THIS IS THE AMAZING PART...

To which John McCain said "People, we need to not be afraid of a Barack Obama Presidency. This, above all, must be a 'respectful' campaign"

I am telling you, once THAT little beauty gets out, 1/2 the Republican Party will go into UTTER REVOLT!

We have just been stabbed in the back by our OWN CANDIDATE! After all these townhall meetings where people have been BEGGING John McCain to GET TOUGH on Obama, that is the pussified response we get?

I will NEVER vote for Obama, but John McCain just LOST my vote.

And what the hell. He is running all of these ads calling Obama a LIAR and then he says "we need to not be afraid of Obama and run a respectful campaign"????????????

Seriously, McCain has done it. He has GONE SENILE!

Tonight, with that comment, McCain has just DRIVEN A STAKME THROUGH THE HEART OF HIS CAMPAIGN.

The hell with him.

I want Mitt Romney!

More proof of the "Newsweek/liberal" bias:

In 2004? W. Bush was the poor victim,

Newsweek (LV) 10/14 - 10/15
Bush 50% Kerry 45% Bush +5

History is repeating itself. The liberal mainstream media is "saving" the democratic candidate, again.

'To which John McCain said "People, we need to not be afraid of a Barack Obama Presidency. This, above all, must be a 'respectful' campaign"'

Looks like McCain decided to take a nostalgia tour on the Straight-Talk Express. It's OK, it was a short tour. He promptly jumped off again.

palins highschool grades and sat score!

http://buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores

Boom

How does Rasmussen verify party ID? What makes them the Authority? Do they check the respondent's voter registration card? They don't. Do you disagree that the country is a bit peeved at the Reps? If that is the case, perhaps people tell the pollster that they are independent rather than Rep.

boomshak,

If you were to think like a normal/mainstream person, you will see what the McCain campaign's own numbers are showing: This type of campaign is talking a toll on his own image.

nemesis I can only challenge you on your point. If you are for marriage between a man and woman ONLY for "religious" reasons maybe marriage should not be a government sponsored event? Right?

@kerrchdavis:

Yea I've watched Boom's post here for awhile now...in fact he's one of the main reasons I come back to this post, thou I have noticed when he's losing a argument he disappears.

He's still very entertaining :)

Liberal Majority Supreme Court.
That is all I have wanted. and That I will get by 2012!

DOWN WITH CONSERVATISM LONG LIVE LIBERALISM :-)

@boomshak

maybe McCain is starting to realize that running an especially negative campaign, as he has been doing all week, is KILLING him.

and Romney? lol! You want the guy that got destroyed by the guy that can't campaign worth a damn.

Just face it, it does not matter WHO you rethugs put out there. Obama would have found a way to destroy them all.

Landslide baby Landslide!

@boomshak

Man, you may argue the details of the pols but momentum and trend you can not...

It just makes sense...McCain talks about Ayers and other crap no one but his hysterical base cares about as the US Economy "fundamentals are sound" melts down in the worst since 1929!

Secondly, he took a complete Bimbo (I use the term for males too so for me not sexist) airhead as is replacement when he kicks it....

Put it all together and you have what you need to understand...so why don't you accept? We have to put you back in isolation again? ;)

NW Patrick:

Yes, that IS right. I think marriage is a religious event, and shouldn't have government interference. People can marry trees if it's part of their religion. I only ask that they don't try to consummate it in public.

boomshak

My guess is the Secret Service had a little chat with the McCain camp today. You do realize we do not get all the news out there every day!

@boomshak

McCain is trying to have it both ways he is inciting nutheads and who knows what these crazies are going to do, he's actually vconvinced some of these people that Obama is a muslim terrorist.

Now he's backing off.

Boom aren't you in NC? I would highly suggest you vote for BARR.

From the Conservative "Dallas Morning News":

"John McCain for the first time today signaled that it's time for him and Sarah Palin to stop their lynch-mob tactics. He gave a speech today and, in response to a supporter urging him to take the gloves off and start fighting, he said he'll fight, but he's going to be respectful to Sen. Obama. The crowd booed. McCain stopped them and insisted, no, we will run a respectful campaign.

McCain, at least, recognizes that the emotions his campaign has stirred creates exactly the wrong image he wants Americans to have of his campaign. I'm hoping the backlash against him has resonated and shaken him severely. You don't win elections by encouraging your supporters to yell, "Kill him," in reference to Obama, and, "Sit down, boy," to a black TV soundman doing election coverage.

There's a limit to the value of negative campaigning, and McCain finally sees how truly damaging it is. I'm sorry it took him this long to put a stop to it. I hope it's not too late."

Reasonable people, even Conservatives, were troubled by the McCain campaign's rethoric.

I can't believe your knocking a candidate because he asked his audience to be respectful towards his opponent.

That's a bad thing? I mean....really!?

*you're*

@Evolve:

First of all, I am NEVER losing an argumnet in here. These people have come unarmed to a battle of wits.

However, I have just had the last straw with McCain.

Telling is "we need to not fear and Obama Presidency, that he will do a fine job". At the same time he is running ads saying we need to be afraid of Obama?

I'm sorry, he has gone senile. I'll take my chances with a one term radical socialist that a friggin NUT!

McCain is officially toast once THAT comments makes it around the blogosphere.

I'm telling you guys, I know these bloggers and they will go BALLISTIC over that.

@boomshak

lets face it McCain is possibly the worst ever Repub candidate for the Presidency. But he's not really a Repub, he's a maverick.

@boomshak

"First of all, I am NEVER losing an argumnet in here"

roflmao, you have yet to WIN an argument in here. All you come to battle with is bull**** to spew and Fox news talking points. You don't have a shred of credibility, an iota of logic, a fraction of common sense.

On top of that, EVERY PREDICTION YOU MAKE TURNS OUT TO BE WRONG.

how can 1 person be so wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME?

pathetic. fail. race tied by sunday. fail.

I wish it had gone on and gotten nastier until the Secret Service arrested Palin for insight to riot and kill a presidential candidate....October Surprise!

Boom-
I think McCain never believed that Obama was sympathetic to terrorists. If he did he would have brought that out at the start. He was asked to say something he didn't believe. McCain should have never hired Schmidt and the others from the Rove team. They are the same cut-throat liars that ran Bush's campaigns.
I have no sympathy for McCain. He effectively became Bush in a selfish bid for power and he lost his honor in doing so. For once I am in agreement with the Boomer.

The hell with McCain.

@RussTC3:

You don't understand. At every rally the last few days, audience members have been BEGGING Mccain to get tough and fight the socialists.

Now he says, "no, we need to be nice and respectful". I am telling you, most of the people in that crowd probably said, "what the hell did he just say?"

Let's get Obama elected so we can wash out all these old idiot Republicans like McCain and get a youg, dynamic (and not stupid) crew in there.

If we take all 8 nationals so far and do a simple average, Obama is +8.1 for the day at 49.75%, with Uncle Fester on 41.9%. The weighted average will show a slightly smaller spread.

The polls have widely differing internals, which is why aggregating them gives the best take on the day. Whichever way you look at it, this is a fundamental repudiation of McCain's negative tactics and poor debate performance. There is no other plausible interpretation.

boomshak,

McCain knows that he already has the votes of people like you, and those in the blogsphere that you visit. The problem is that the type of campaign he is running send "normal/sober" people ballistic!!! Soft Democrats don't like this McCain. This campaign has Rove written all over it, and that will just alineate middle-of-the-road Democrats. McCain needs those people to win.

boomshak

I really do not believe you want someone to take a shot at Obama or beat up a couple of 20 year old volunteers in say Ohio or Virginia.

@zotz

whats funny is that McCain actually said "there is a special place in hell" for the schidmts and roves that ran bush's smear campaign against him in 2000. And McCain was a far better candidate than bush.

THEN, he goes out and hires them for himself. That is boomshak level hypocrisy!

SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT OBAMA:

Due to his many nefarious prior associations, do you know that Obama could NOT pass an FBI background check if it were given to him today?

He can be elected POTUS, but he would NOT pass the test given to the Secret Service that protect him.

Scary thought.

@boomshak

"SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT OBAMA:"

zzzZZZzzz.

@kerchdavis,

"there is a special place in hell" Yes, and that place is called:

The 2008 McCain Campaign :-) !!!!

@boomshak

Obviously, McCain is seeing that his nasty rhetoric is driving more people to Obama. I think he realizes that his candidacy is doomed and knows that a divided and angry country will be his legacy if he doesn't raise the level of discord. He also saw that his negativity is killing the Rep brand and affecting the downtickets candidates. Coleman passed on a rally with him and more and more candidates were probably issuing the same warning. They don't want backlash from his horrible strategy. Just my observations.

Boom,

Don't forget the filibuster proof majority in the Senate. It will be a wonderful first 2 years, health care for all, middle class tax cuts, an end to Bushtoberfest, investment in safe renewable energy, judges and an executive branch that will uphold and abide by the constitution. Sounds like heaven to me. The end of the conservative revolution is at hand.

ROFL - God, I wish I knew where this VAST DEMOCRATIC CONSPIRACY was organized!! It is one efficient Motherf*cker!!! It has BOUGHT every single polling organization in the United States!!! Week after week, they trot out this PROPOGANDA that the MSM laps up! Obama is ahead! Obama is ahead!

You see, girls and boys, if you study hard, get a liberal arts degree and work in the mainstream media, you can, too, become part of this wonderful conspiracy. Travel the world and make wonderful friendships wih people from other countries.

If you don't work hard, you'll become a talking head on Fox NEWS, complaining about this conspiracy that YOU'RE NOT PART OF! You'll vacation in either FLORIDA or TEXAS and meet small businessmen who do nothing but complain about paying taxes and healthcare costs!!

"Nation of Whiners"

@boom

"Fight the socialists"! Obama a socialist?

1. Try travelling. Not only is it fun, but it broadens the mind. You might even meet some *real* socialists, and realise how silly you sound.

2. Isn't it this administration that is socialising the banking industry (albeit "temporarily")?

boomshak,

Just like Bill Clinton in 1992?

@carl

lol, I know! what a joke.

boomshak:
"SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT OBAMA:

Due to his many nefarious prior associations, do you know that Obama could NOT pass an FBI background check if it were given to him today?"

Do you have any proof to verify your assertion?

Boom

His current negative attacks aren't working so this is the only direction he can go to close the gap. His current attacks fires up his base and gets played all over Fox news but will do nothing for him with the independent vote, they'll never see it....net gain zero

He has to come up with a economic plan that's not Trickel Down...it just doesn't sell to middle America anymore.

He has to hope the market rebounds before Nov. 4...which it probably will to some degree

He needs to push the negative adds that attach Obama and the Dems. to this finical mess...true or not they work

Lastly he has to look presidential and courteous in the last debate...no more tit for tat...CNN's tracker went down every time either of them attacked each other.

If he can pull these off WHITE America does want to vote for him... he' just got to get them to BELIEVE that he WILL do it.

I actually run the MSM wing on the vast left wing conspiracy it is a rather fun job, I write Keith's special commentaries, decide the result of polls and of course the part I enjoy most is mocking the angry right wingers who TYPE IN ALL CAPS.

Wait wait wait. boomshak, are you honestly telling us that you think McCain would pass a background check for the FBI? I've been contacted for a LOCAL POLICE background check, and McCain would've been thrown out as a potential employee for his ethics violations and group affiliations. That's LOCAL POLICE!!! Are you honestly telling me that you think HE'D pass an FBI screening? You're out of your mind.

McCain has a moment of decency at a rally, for which he should be applauded:
"I have to tell you. Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don't have to be scared of as president of the United States."

He was booed by his own crowd. Sad.

@Oldy75

That's you?! Keep up the good work!

McCain was doing well when Democrats were crossing over to vote for him. That's no longer the case. This rethoric fires up the base but sends the rest of the electorate to the other side. McCain cannot engage in a highly partisan/viciuos campaign, with its Rovian stamp, and keep his broad/Maverick appeal for soft democrats. It's got to be one or the other.

Yep we even have a special group just for creating gotcha questions for the MSM to filter Sarah Palin.

I can just see Boom with his Mitt Romney blow up Doll, "Help me Mitt Romney your my only hope."

Boomey, Do you think cokehead W. would be allowed in the FBI?

Of course not, he couldn't pass the IQ test

Alright folks, I've gotta run. Just designed and built an immobilizer and ignition system for my car, and I need to install it. Engineering of electronics circuitry is fun! :-)
I'll be back later tonight.
I leave you with this FactCheck.org article which completely shoots apart the recent Ayres garbage cooked up by the Republican party.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html

@Boomshak's criticism of internals

The Newsweek poll says that, including leaners, the Dem/GOP split is 52-40 among RV.

Nationally there are about 34 percent more registered Dems than Repubs. Seems fair to me.

Nate Silver nail it:

"Remember, any world in which McCain has a chance to win on Election Day is a world that looks very different from this one -- some significant event will have to have occurred to fundamentally change the momentum of the race."

McCain finally came to his senses for a minute in front of the angry crowd and they practically booed him off the stage.

Sad.

WHY I WON'T BE VOTING FOR MCCAIN:

I honestly fear that he is going senile. Earlier this week, he said "My fellow prisoners!" to the crowd and didn't drop a beat knowing he had messed up.

"Prisoners"? Thta's a VERY strange thing to say.

Now, after running all of these ads saying America needs to FEAR Obama and his supporters BEGGING him to get tough at rallies, he says "We need to not be afraid of an Obama presidency, he will do a fine job"?

Sorry folks that's not just stupid, that NUTS. I am serious, I do believe that at age 72 he is going senile.

Looks like I'll be sitting Nov 4th out as far as voting for POTUS (will still vote for Congress, etc).

I cannot, in good conscience, vote for a man whom I believe may be losing his mind.

P.S.,

When the hell did Obama EVER show any respect to McCain? Obama denegrates McCain every possible chance he gets.

@boomshak

"I am serious, I do believe that at age 72 he is going senile."

great boom. In the meantime, most of us here have been saying this for the LAST 6 MONTHS!

Some articles are priceless!!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/10/a-buckley-endorses-obama/

Boom if u don't think it's real all I can tell you that my next door neighbor registered GOP voted for Bush twice ("history will vindicate bush") calls himself a Neo-Conservative, voted GOP for congress in 2006.

Today he tells me for the first time that he's not surehe's voting McCain. Why???

The Economy has ruined his business and he says "Sarah Palin is the most unqualified candidate to run for VP in the last 75 years"
" I can live with the other 3 (being pres.) but she is plain stupid"

If this how republicans are talking.....

Kathleen Turner on Larry King said "I'll vote, not sure for who"

Boom this is real you just watched too many x files reruns

Hey, I didn't see the actual clip when he said it, did the crowd actually boo?

They should have.

Oh yes, another sign of senility. He is campaigning in states he CANNOT win and ignoring states he MUST win.

This is NOT rational behavior,

@boomshak

how bout every time he says McCain is a genuine war hero who we owe our respect and appreciation?

How bout when he acknowledges McCain is correct about certain issues?

how about by being willing to look him in the eye?

god, you're a joke.

@Dana Adini:

The economy si the Democrats fault. Fannie Mae started this whole mess and its all on them.

BOOMSHAK: P.S.,

When the hell did Obama EVER show any respect to McCain? Obama denegrates McCain every possible chance he gets.

WTF? No democrat refers to McCain without first pointing out their respect for his service. This is something McCain has never done. Point one time when McCain referred to Obama as a Hero.

Guess what? Obama is an AMERICAN HERO.

@kerrchdavis:

I'll forgive you as you obviously got shortchanged in the brains line.

Yeah, Boom the crowd booed. Just saw it on Hardball.

@boomshak

"The economy si the Democrats fault."

If you can't even acknowledge that both sides are partly responsible for the economic crisis then you are an even bigger idiot than any of us could have predicted.

and that is really saying something.

@miatch:
BOOMSHAK: P.S.,

"Point one time when McCain referred to Obama as a Hero."

That may be the funniest thing I have ever read in here (and that's saying a lot).

What the f*ck has Obama ever done that was heroic? Seriously?

Has Obama really run ads saying to fear Obama? Surely he has run ads criticising his judgement and his associations and saying Obama is not ready. I don't think it is inconsistent to say don't fear Obama.

Obama has changed his position on a lot of things and will probably act nothing like he says he will. But I think everybody can be certain of one thing that Obama will do without fail if he is elected. He will immediately start running for re-election.

Obama is favourite at the moment with a national lead of 5-7% but it is not all over. If Wall Street reverses over the next few weeks McCain might benefit. If it doesn't...
If the national figures get to 3% or less, certainly not impossible then the result will be uncertain up to election day.

You don't see going from food stamps to POTUS as heroic? I do.

Have the Republicans ever hear of the Election of 1932: Roosevelt (Dem) 472, Hoover (Rep) 59.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1932

Rasmussen Poll

Oregon O 54% M 43%

@miatch:

"Yeah, Boom the crowd booed. Just saw it on Hardball."

Lol, that is so pathetic, it is almost funny. You know, republicans never wanted McCain in the first place. Huckabee and Romney split all the conservative votes and we got McCain in the bargain.

I think we really hoped against hope that McCain had grown a set and would stand up for our values.

Now we learn that he is the same "middle-of-the-road" RINO pussy he always was.

I am telling you, after THAT comment, Obama may, in fact win all 50 states.

@boomshak

lol, i love how you make arguments that are proven completely wrong time and again. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being. You are a hypocrite, a cherry picking thug, a right wing hack and a first rate moron. But more than anything else, you are a jerk.

tell me Boom, tied race by Sunday? WHo was lacking brains when they made that prediction?

lol, scumbag.

Right..... And who was whining about it but didn't actually do anything when they had power? The Republicans. Who was in charge of the economy for 6 years and effed it up? The Republicans. Who was in charge of the Federal Reserve and urged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages? Alan Greenspan, the champion of the so called fiscal conservatism we've been seeing the last 8 years. Who didn't provide any government oversight? The Bush Administration. Who gets paid 15,000 a month by Freddie Mac? Rick Davis. Do I really need to mention who he is?

boomshak

u are an idiot.

The GOP had complete power from 2000-2006 White house, congress,senate. Doesn't matter what the dems thought or did the had the mandate from the people and they F@#$ked it up.

Fannie Mae...was fannie mae bailed out??? no wall street was. Fannie didnt make subprime loans, wall street did. Fannie bought conforming loans. true they were hurt and they were lax but nothing compared to what wall stret and the hedge funds did.

Fannie contributed to both Dems and GOP except GOP WAS IN POWER THEY HAD MANDATE TO GOVERN

Game over come back and talk to me in 2010

Even the Republican Commentators on FoxNews who usually support McCain were like, WTF?!

They were honestly dumbfounded. Each one of them had a look on thier faces like, "this race just ended, McCain just killed himself with one sentence."

The problem is that so many Republicans will now stay home that you guys will get huge majorities in Congress as well.

It almost makes me believe McCain is a Dem plant (well, not really, but you know :)

@viperlord

Hes a complete joke. I don't know what has crashed more in the last month, McCain's popularity or Boomshaks credibility.

He is pathetic. Ever seen one of his predictions? roflmao, what a joke!

You remember, Viper, when he used to reference intrade all the time? What happened to that?

lol, a hypocritical scumbag.

Don't forget his lack of reading ability, which explains a lot. He quoted me saying that he had never made a racist comment and accused me of calling him a racist. EPIC FAIL.

boom, it's not all McCain's fault. He has placed himself inside a Rovian echo chamber run by fools and thugs.

Then look at the Obama campaign -- there is no comparison.

I just hope he finds a way to retrieve some honor and dignity before his Nov 4 defeat. Both he and the nation would benefit.

Yeah, I've seen his ridiculous predictions, and his quick dumping of polls the instant they show results he doesn't like.

Oh, I can;t forget that aspect. Pretty much everything basic you would expect an intelligent human to be able to do he fails at miserably.

@Dana Adini:
boomshak

"Fannie Mae...was fannie mae bailed out??? no wall street was."

Yeah, Fannie Mae WAS bailed out to the tune of $200 billion. Where the hell have YOU been?

Obama won't get 472 EV's like FDR, but then back then the country had to hang around from October, 1929 to November, 1932 before they could vote. We're lucky. There are some people right now that can't get rascism (or whatever other reason for not voting Democrat) out of their pea-brain, stubborn heads. Three years of this would have them begging for change and give Obama just as big a landslide, but it WILL STIL BE a landslide nevertheless. I think Georgia might even go blue. Maybe my stubborn State of Texas might go blue, who knows?

JUST ANNOUNCED : NO SMOKING GUN THAT WOULD BRING ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES IN TROOPERGATE CASE!

Not that it matters now since McCain just threw the race, but good news for Sarah Palin.

@boomshak'

His point was that is was not just fannie, it was a whole pool of investment and insurance companies.

Are you stupid or do you intentionally take everything out of context?

Either way, you are a scumbag.

Boom,
u never answered me. Do you not think going from food stamps, to Harvard to running the best presidential campaign in history, to POTUS,
just a wee bit HEROIC?

$200 is nothing compared to to wall street, hedge funds and the banks who got stuck with SP paper. $200 as a percentage of Fannie volume is nothing

@miatch

he does not think so because he is a first class fool.

Dana Adini said: "Fannie Mae...was fannie mae bailed out??? no wall street was. Fannie didnt make subprime loans, wall street did. Fannie bought conforming loans. true they were hurt and they were lax but nothing compared to what wall stret and the hedge funds did."

Fannie and Freddie have both been bailed out. Please see:

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0527106320080909?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

@miatch:

Boom,

"u never answered me. Do you not think going from food stamps, to Harvard to running the best presidential campaign in history, to POTUS,
just a wee bit HEROIC?"

I dunno, when Obama releases his Columbia transcripts (which he has refused to do) I'll tell you how herois he was.

@kerrchdavis:

Does being the least intelligent liberal in the room give you some sort of purient delight?

"I dunno, when Obama releases his Columbia transcripts (which he has refused to do) I'll tell you how herois he was."

lol, what a stupid response.

@kerrchdavis:

So genius, why won't Obama release those? Can you think of a good reason if he has nothing to hide?

@boomshak

considering how every single thing you type is WRONG (just like all your pathetic predictions), having you question my intelligence is a HUGE compliment.

tied race by Sunday, boom?

Obama has been campaigning in states at a time no one thought he can win the electoral votes of these states (as Florida). These campaign events have to be planned carefully. I do not believe McCain is senile because he is campaigning in a state like PA.

A candidate must convince the voters and McCain does not achieve this. If you can you can campaign everywhere. And of course every campaign event has a nationwide impact.

"fellow prisoners": it is hard to campaign for months and months and months especially if the candidate is 72 years old. I believe he was tired and used a phrase he used in a speech
to prisoners of the Vietnam war.

McCain has an unstable and unpredictable character and his decision for Sarah Palin in some years will be seen as a bad joke but he is not senile let's be fair to him.

@boom

tell me...tied race by Sunday? was that last Sunday or this Sunday or some fictional Sunday you made up?

@Observer

Fannie and Freddie's losses vs. their volume were pale compared to the sub-prime. Obviously fannie and freddie held residential paper and even if they were all properly underwritten there will be losses because values got destroyed and people lost thier jobs.

However, this crises was percipatated by sub prime crises which which freddie and fannie were not the main cause.

bottom line GOP was in power it was their job to regulate......that's the bottom line

@boom

please tell us, are you predicting another tied race by Sunday? Will it be withing the MOE?

please boom, give us another one of your pathetic predictions.

tied race by Sunday, boom?

Surely McCain is doing exactly what Obama has been doing for a long time? He runs the campaign with attack ads, press releases and surrogates plus the classic VP 'attack dog' but personally stays above the fray. It has worked for Obama, why should it not work for McCain?

'Taking the gloves off' is all very well but what is important for McCain is to get issues into the news media and the Ads plus Sarah Palin can do that.

McCain will continue to be respectful as will Obama and that will carry over into the final debate but don't expect the pace of attack and counter attack to slow up. I still think the name on everybody's lips next week will be Rezko just like it has been Ayres this week. Wright to follow later.

Boom: Although Mccain might have lost your vote he might have gained thousands of others with this statement. I think Obama is a ruthless politician but a lot of people find it easy to see him as a good guy. McCain is going for the same thing. I think he is right to do things this way.

aight, I'm out of here. See ya later Viper. Boom, please let me know if you make anymore weekend predictions. I can't wait.

what a joke.

@Observer

You may be correct, but those who watch Fox News already support McCann...unless there's something new the regular media won't tough those issues. Independents and Democrats are more concerned about the economy which is covered 24/7 on the other networks. If and when their is something of substance they'll cover it. As for the other networks this stuff has already run its course. In fact the only thing covered is that McCann is running these attack adds because he's desperate.

I just noticed something - look to the northwest - there has been no polling in the Dakotas since mid-September, pre-crisis and when Obama was behind nationally. There has only been one in Montana and that changed the state from strong McCain to lean McCain. The Dakotas may, likewise, be closer by now. After Obama's national TV spot and with a few grand of his largesse thrown at them combined with a couple of rallies, is there an outside chance that these states could flip? That would be something, symbolically if not electorally

Evolve

What you say is true but there is a natural opening for the McCain campaign to exploit:

Ayrers threw a fundraiser for Obama
There are complaints from the Republicans about Obama's fundraising and where some of the money comes from.
Obama's reversal on taking public financing where he reneged on what he had promised during the Primary.
Back in Chicago Rezko was for a long time one of Obama's main fundraisers....

That factcheck.org report on Ayers is the last nail in the coffin of the smear campaign.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html

Now when Hannity or Laura Ingram (or McCain) brings up Ayers the Dems can pin this website on their forehead. NO EVIDENCE! There is no THERE there! Obama never attended a party convention for a party that advocated secession. He never sat on a board that gave assistance to death squads in Central America.

If McCain brings this up at the next debate Obama can rip McCain to shreds!

FRIGGIN INCREDIBLE!

At a town hall in Minnesota, McCain tried to tone down a week of raucus, angry crowds after one man stood up and said: "We want you to fight."

"The people here in Minnesota want to see a real fight. We want a strong president to lead us through the next four years."

"I think I got my marching orders," McCain said. But then he shifted tones.

"I am enthusiastic and encouraged by the enthusiasm and I think it's really good," McCain said. "We have to fight and i will fight but we will be respectful. I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments and I want to be respectful.

"I dont mean that you have to lose your ferocity. I just mean you have to be respectful."

A moment later, another woman stood up and urged McCain to speak up so voters "really have an understanding of who the candidates are."

"There's a difference between rhetoric and record," McCain said, adding that Obama voted to raise taxes 94 times. "He has the most liberal voting record in the United States Senate, even more liberal than Bernie Sanders."

Once again, McCain repeated, "I want all of you to tell your neighbors about the difference between rhetoric and record, but let's do it respectfully."

@Observer:

No doubt, there are a number of questions there. Most have been answered sufficiently enough for Dems and not sufficiently for Reps., I just don't think Independents give a hoot about these issues. In fact durning the last debate the CNN tracker nose dived every time either Obama or McCann attacked each other. We working class independents have been in this recession for years now, any we want to hear about the direction these two men plan on taking us. This election is too important to let either candidate steal our vote with this type of garbage.

@zotz:

None of this matters anymore. McCain just threw the election. On Monday he will officially lose Rush Limbaugh. Rush never liked McCain in the first place. This will be the last straw.

McCain is a pussy. I am ashamed he is our nominee.

I am willing to bet about 100,000 McCain supporters just pulled the signs out of their front yards.

Ha, he runs a incredibly sleazy and negative campaign and suddenly he gets respectful? Please. And his supporters STILL believe lies that have been disproved.

The problem is that McCain is senile (or beginning to be).

Question, when was the last time a candidate said something so outrageous as to be booed at his own campaign event? Has that EVER happened?

He is senile.

Factcheck do themsevles no favours with such a whitewash. They say:

"Even the description of Ayers as a "terrorist" is a matter of interpretation. Setting off bombs can fairly be described as terrorism even when they are intended to cause only property damage, which is what Ayers has admitted doing in his youth. But for nearly three decades since, Ayers has lived the relatively quiet life of an educator. It would be correct to call him a "former terrorist," and an "unapologetic" one at that. But if McCain means the word "terrorist" to invoke images of 9/11, he's being misleading; Ayers is no Osama bin Laden now, and never was."

That is a disgusting statement. A former terrorist is one who has apologised and renounced violence and tried to be a decent member of society. The only thing that distinguishes Bill Ayres from OSB is he was not so 'successful'. Forgiveness follows repentance.

Suppose OBL is interviewed in 20/30 years from now and says he didn't do enough terrorism? Should he then become part of 'mainstream' life and an accepted fundraiser for a national politician. Of course not. That is just as laughable.

Obama is not a terrorist and not a supporter of terrorism. But he, and the people who wrote this piece, are tolerant of unrepentant terrorists. I am not and nor are millions of others. That is a fact.

No, that is BS. I guess everyone involved with Chicago education was tolerant of terrorists then, including the Governor of the state, and the conservative Republican running the group. And so's the government for not putting him behind bars by that logic. Logically, there is nothing wrong wrong with what they said. They said it was a matter open to interpretation.

I don't agree with that interpretation myself, but that twisting of their words is so disgusting it's laughable.

"Rasmussen says that Democrats have a 5.6 point sampling advantage and that is based upon 20,000 calls over six week."

Boom- Rasmussen does not base his political affiliation model on his raw poll data. He bases it on some other set of criteria. And then he massages his poll results. That is what "weighting" is. If he reported raw reporting data he wouldn't need to "weight.

Oh, if we only had Rasmussen's raw data!

All these other pollsters are asking people either "What party are you registered as.." Or perhaps "What party do you most identify with..."

And those huge disparities that you see repeatedly in all these other polls are what people are reporting THEMSELVES. They are not "weights".

I'm back, and just in time for this:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_TROOPERGATE?SITE=KTVK&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Does not look very good at all for Palin et al.

"boomshak: Today's Fox Poll was bullsh*t. Rasmussen has McCain at 45 and Fox has him at 39? Bullsh*t."

So now I see your new technique. You are going to argue that McCain's numbers are the highest result he gets from one poll and Obama's is the lowest he gets from another?

Boom, it's whether or not they "push" the undecided voters to declare. If they "push" the respondant..."who are you leaning towards" they will get higher numbers than if they don't. It's quite simple to understand, really.

We have talked about this situation on this site for several years. You still don't understand it?

Look at Fox's undecideds...much higher...they didn't push. But the differential is about the same as all the other polls.

Palin report in PDF located here.

http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf

"obamaownsboomcrapnkiptin:
palin was a D student in highschool and it showed on her sat exam!
Stick t obeing a hockey mom toots...."

Actually she was a "self-identifying" D student. LOL!

The troopergate report just released suggests Palin overstepped her power as Governor.

We already have had a VP who doesn't understand the limits to his authority.

I think we don't need another.

Of course McCain's nominal supporters put him into an impossible situation. If he kept tolerating their antics, his numbers among independent and undecideds would continue to sink. But he also needs the Republican "base" to be as motivated as possible to even have a chance, given the enthusiasm among Obama's supporters.

So, basically, the Republican "base" effectively just threw McCain under the proverbial bus by making demands of him he couldn't possibly meet. Which from a broader perspective makes sense: he was never their favorite, but they supported him any way because they thought he could win in a tough year for Republicans. And so now that it looks like he won't win, they might as well just go ahead and blame him for all their troubles.

I just read about McCain finally exhibiting some decency on the campaign trail and thought, "uh-oh." Seriously. If he starts acting human again, he might have a shot at OH, FL, VA, etc.

The fact that McCain's sudden respectfulness sends "boomshak" into a hissy fit says a lot about ol' boom.

Looks like there is insufficient evidence for "criminal" prosecution. But impeachment is not a "criminal prosecution" and I thought the major concern was that her activities were unethical, not criminal.

It's like the difference between a tort and a criminal charge.

Sounds like they could still remove her from her position.

The possibility exists that McCain tempered his loyal supporters in anticipation of the release of the Palin report.

I think he may have known that his VP pick was a self-sabotage, or suspected it, but realized that when the report came out, his campaign didn't matter that much anyhow.

He also came to realize that he was inciting a race riot, and very possibly a fraudulent election.

We've had at least one of those in recent times in the US.

Frankly, if this election is fraudulent, truly fraudulent, then the 9/11 terrorists will have won, and you will see mass rioting and anarchy.

Since, I am hopeful that we still have a strong, viable country, I am grateful for McCain's wise remarks today.

Son of America's most notorious icon of conservatism William.F.Buckley endorses:
OBAMA!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/10/a-buckley-endorses-obama/?eref=politicalflipper

BTW Just a little context to the ACORN situation. There is no real strong evidence for the number of "false" or invalid registrations in an effort as widescale as ACORN's this election. But there are always some erroneous submissions in any voter registration drive. That doesn't mean that an erroneous submission is fraudulent, and it doesn't mean that every fraudulent registration is an attempt to commit voter fraud. It's a big leap from one to the next.

The best parallel to a campaign like ACORN's is with initiative and referenda signature drives. Many groups pay individuals or signature gathering firms between $1-5 for each submitted legal signature.

There is a direct correlation between signature rejection rate and the use of paid signature gatherers -- the more signatures you pay for, the higher the rejection rate.

Submissions from paid signature drives in Washington have a rejection rate of 18 percent to 25 percent, Handy said.

"Pure volunteer efforts tend to be lower, in 11 percent to 16 percent range," he said.

False submissions are so high that it is assumed that at least 10% of all signatures will be bogus, fraudulent, or ineligible. Does the Secretary of State then charge the organization with fraud? NO. In fact the Secretary of State offices merely request that submitted initiatives surpass a "super threshhold" and then they canvass a certain percentage of voters to make an estimate of illegitimate submissions. Almost all initiatives have an estimated 10% of more bogus signatures...it's when they get up over 15% that they may be rejected (depending upon the Super Threshold"

So to accuse ACORN of fraud is simply absurd. In fact THEY are more likely the ones having fraud pertrated upon them.

Speaking of voter registration drives, groups like ACORN are actually required to turn in every form they collect, even when they know they're fraudulent. Otherwise they could cherry-pick them by race, sex, party, etc., and that would be true fraud.

The good people of the world need to educate themselves regarding the truth about so-called "voter fraud" so as to quash the nasty rumors floating around... and focus on election fraud, which no one is talking about.

Honestly, McCain is now helping the Democrats win 2012.

What a fool.

slinky

He also came to realize that he was inciting a race riot, and very possibly a fraudulent election.

We've had at least one of those in recent times in the US.

I don't consider 1960 all that recent.

I hope all of the Rep 2012 possibles are paying attention. Attack early and often!

@BOOM:
All conservatives are senile, regardless of age :)

I DEMAND: LIBERAL SUPREME COURT!

Yesss!

To think but 4 months ago I really wanted to vote for John McCain. Shows how much the universe can change... because when I read this today, I thought "Even a guy like me, who has voted Republican as many times as Democrat, feels with total disgust and disappointment that this piece pretty much sums up exactly how I feel about my ex-hero, John McCain."

Time to Ask McCain: "Have You Have No Sense of Decency Left?"
Bob Shrum, Oct. 10 2008

THE HEADLINE OF THE ARTICLE SAYS "SARAH PALIN GUILTY OF ABUSE OF POWER..."

But that isn't the actual conclusion of the report. The ACTUAL CONCLUSION is here:

"I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Gov. Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as a commissioner of public safety. In spite of that, Governor Palin’s firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercie of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads."

No mention of ABUSE OF POWER. Nothing illegal. Merely a speculation that it "might" have had something to do with his firing.

And from THAT we get the headline "ABUSE OF POWER".

Welcome to what government will become under Obama. Lies. Manipulations. Spin.

"First of all, I am NEVER losing an argumnet in here. These people have come unarmed to a battle of wits."

Dang, you certainly aren't full of yourself, are you boom?

Geez.

@boomshak: Are you illiterate? Way to ignore the FIRST finding in the report:

For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.51.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Brach Ethics Act.

Your inability to mention this confirms your status as 100% troll.

McCain doesn't speak for his own campaign. That's what they said back in August and it's basically what he's saying now.

For the last week or so, McCain and Palin have been feeding the paranoia and hostility of the most racist, most bitter, and least intelligent Americans. Now McCain says he's not questioning Obama's patriotism again.

So is Sarah Palin now going to get civil at McCain's request? Or does she still speak for the campaign?

As someone mentioned, maybe the Secret Service checked McCain's bearings for him--something Sarah Palin may not be as good at as Joe Lieberman.

What a pathetic spectacle. McCain should see what he can do to keep Obama alive at this point.

The official shorthand is that she abused her power, but broke no laws in doing so. It's a far cry from the "full vindication" that McCain's camp is calling it, but it sounds like the end of the investigation, which is probably proper. Palin would hardly be the first person to use her position as leverage against someone beneath her, and while it's certainly distasteful (and further confirms what a lot of us feel about her character), it's not like any Democrats never engaged in such behavior. Frankly, it looks a lot like standard-issue political dirty tricks--the kind people in both parties routinely practice.

From the perspective of the campaign, it probably doesn't change much. At worst, it dampens her claims to be a tough-minded reformer, and it because it doesn't call for a criminal trial, it can't be readily dismissed as partisan. But I think folks on both sides of the aisle have already made up their minds about her, and this report won't dislodge much. As boomshak implies, the McCain campaign has much bigger problems on its plate these days.

to John Mccain

your race baiting is hurting in the suburbs and with mainstream america, and without you will loose badly, dumbass!

LEFTWING NUT-O-SPHERE FALLS FOR FAKE PALIN SAT SCORES:

This is to too funny. Somebody photoshopped Sarah Palin's SAT Scores to make her look stupid and the whole left wing nut-o-sphere fell for it hook line and sinker.

Here is the REAL SAT scorecard:

http://www.offoffoff.com/dawn/scholap.jpg

And here is the FAKED card posted by DailyKos:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/10/Picture_754.jpg

As you can see, her real scores were 700 verbal and 640 math, both very good.

You leftwing moonbats will believe anything. Get used to it though. This kind of deception will be common in an Obama Administration.

@Knyght:

Whether something is an "abuse of power" all depends on who is doing it. When Bill Clinton took office, he fired every single one of the District Court Judges and replaced them with liberals.

The MSM said, "this is acceptable, just cleaning house".

Bush let go of just a tiny fraction of that many judges and the MSM trumpeted it as a "blatant abuse of power".

If you read the decision, it is filled with "I think that", "it is my opinion that", "it seems that". And mind you, the investigator on this was a partisan Democrat chosen by an Obama supporter.

Bill Clinton was IMPEACHED for lying under oath, but because he "just lied about sex", it was ok. As a matter of fact, the MSM has declared that NO ONE is allowed to ever bring up his impeachment. Have you heard it mentioned even once during the campaign?

Sarah Palin never broke a single law and acted 100% within her discretion as Governor to protect her family, and yet that is an "abuse of power".

My question is how can she be acting "completely within her discretion as Governer" and at the same time be "abusing her power"?

Do the laws of Alaska make it legal for the Governor to abuse their power? No, of course not. So because she did not break any laws, she did not abuse her power.

It's all just more leftwing bullsh*t.

@change:

You are a racist.

ZOGBY: OBAMA BACK TO +4

Not that it matters. I think McCain has truly jumped the shark by saying "We can trust Obama as President" while running 30 ads telling us not to trust Obama (senility).

However, Obama's radical socialist house-of-cards could still collapse.

Ignore BS polls like Newsweek with their 14 point sampling advantage to Democrats. This race, as confirmed by Rasmussen and Zogby, is still pretty close.

"Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama 48%, McCain 44%"

"Race essentially unchanged in the three-day rolling average as the week of economic meltdown closed out with both candidates calling for calm

UTICA, New York – The latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll of likely voters nationwide shows Democrat Barack Obama enjoys a small lead over Republican John McCain, with little change coming in the last day of a three-day tracking poll of the race.

With the Dow Jones Industrial Average taking more than a 1,000-point swing Friday and Congress adjourned until after Election Day, likely voters were little moved one way or the other, the poll shows. About 9% remain undecided with 24 days until the election.

The rolling telephone tracking poll, including a sample of 1,208 likely voters collected over the previous three 24-hour periods spanning four calendar days – approximately 400 per 24-hour period from Oct. 7-10, 2008 – shows Obama holding a lead now of 3.8 percentage points, virtually the same as his 4.2 percentage point lead yesterday.

Obama enjoys a lead in the east by a sizable margin, while the race is statistically tied in other regions of the nation. The Democratic presidential candidate also continues to lead among independents – by nine points in this latest rolling average, down a point from yesterday."

UT-OH - POSSIBLE RICO (rackateering) INVESTIGATION OF OBAMA UNDERWAY:

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/clinton-supporters-sharing-evidence-for-rico-case-against-obama-campaign/

"There IS a RICO investigation of ACORN and the Obama campaign underway - this has now been established by the mainstream media. Right now it’s rumored here in Chicago that Patrick Fitzgerald is heading it (confirmation on that has not come yet). There is a lot of activity in Chicago right now, with a lot of IRS agents looking into the finances coming in and out of this city, and across state lines (this was established on Monday when the GOP issued emergency press releases that much of Obama’s campaign contributions could very well be illegal foreign contributions - what appears to be deliberately poor record keeping designed to hide the true identities and monetary sources of online donors is at issue here). We see in 15 states now that ACORN is being busted for attempted voter fraud, and for fraudulent, illegal voter registratons in the hundreds of thousands, if not a million. The article below states, and we have confirmed this with people who know for sure, that the people who gathered evidence of Obama’s fraud and voter intimidation techniques during the primaries against Hillary Clinton are sharing everything they have with the Republican Party and the federal government."

NOTES:
Don't know how much truth there is to this and it comes from a pro-Hillary site that HATES Obama, so filter as you like; however, we DO know that ACORN is being investigated in 15 states for voter fraud and there are whispers the whole thing is about to blow wide open nationwide.

Let me make it clear, ACORN and the voter fraud is 100% a Democrat Problem. There is NO Republican equivalent to ACORN. Obama has paid ACORN $800,000 this year to help him.

Can Obama bob and weave hsi way out of this one? Don't know. Just wish we had a better candidate with some real balls to go after Obama on this. Seems like at this point, McCain just wants to be liked more than anything else.

We'll see.

AND NOW FOR SOME SILLNESS FRON THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER:

Hey, at least they are equal opportunity abusers...

OBAMA GAY PORNO CZAR LINK

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/obama_gay_porno_czar_link/celebrity/65567

"This race, as confirmed by Rasmussen and Zogby, is still pretty close."

Have a look at the National trend tool on this site. Looks very close!

Rames1980:

Watch Rasmussen. He is the most transparent of all the pollsters and tell su exactly how he derives his party affiliation weightings (20,000 calls over 6 weeks with updates weekly).

Then, on the other hand, that National Trend Tool, includes polls like Newsweek that give democrats an additional 9 point sampling advantage ABOVE what Rasmussen recommend. You have to plow down to the bottom of the entire polling data to learn this and most people only consider the topline number.

Hey, John McCain deserves to lose this race, but Obama may still melt down and throw the win the McCain.

Yes boomshak, Sarah Palin's REAL SAT scores are under the name of Dawn... nice work there.

MORE ACORN FRAUD: THIS IS JUST GETTING REDICULOUS...

Stealing Pennsylvania: "Massive Fraud"
By Jeffrey Lord
Published 10/10/2008 4:09:45 PM

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=14034

A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.

Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.

Gleason was even more explicit.

"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."

"Voter fraud is no longer just a Philadelphia problem," Gleason said, with ACORN targeting key counties across the state. Counties specifically cited included:

* Delaware County: One of four key suburban counties that surround Philadelphia and are at the heart of the campaign by the forces of Senator Barack Obama to carry the state. In one instance, an ACORN employee circulating voter registration forms in Delaware County was featured on the Pennsylvania "Megan's Law" website, described as having been arrested for "aggravated indecent assault" of a child. Other ACORN circulators had prior criminal records for forgery and giving false information to a police officer, among other charges. Gleason has provided copies of complaints from actual Delaware County voters who were notified by the local election board of their "new" registration to vote. One voter wrote that he "did not complete this form because this information does not match my info at all. I have been a voter for many years. Did not recently register to vote." Said another: "I did not submit any application for voter registration…While the spelling of my name and address is correct, the birth date and Drivers License (sic) number are incorrect." And another angrily wrote that the "personal information" on a form submitted in her name "IS NOT ME." She added: Please have the county investigate this. I feel my identity is being compromised."

* Philadelphia County: The situation in the state's largest city is so bad the Philadelphia City Commission, which supervises the registration of Philadelphia voters, voted unanimously to "voluntarily" turn over its extensive records to the United States Attorney's office for prosecution.

* Dauphin County: Dauphin County (the location of the state capital) District Attorney Marsico said the situation was so bad in Harrisburg that one ACORN worker is now being sought by authorities for submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registration forms. The charge is 19 counts of perjury. One Harrisburg lobbyist, a voter for 30 years, had received notification she had recently filled out a registration form. The lobbyist went straight to the DA with her complaint. Marsico said that what was happening with ACORN "affects the integrity of the process" and that the volume of phony registrations made him "sure that others are going on" that have been undetected.

* Allegheny County: Pittsburgh. Here District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr. and county police Superintendent Charles Moffatt have just announced, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, that "they are investigating and considering charges against ACORN staffers and other voter registration groups."

* Centre County: The home of Penn State, which enrolls more than 40,000 students at its home campus. Justice Newman said there was a "massive effort" to fraudulently register students, with efforts aimed at "multiple registrations."

* Erie County: The county at the northwestern tip of the state with its largest namesake city, here too students at local colleges are being targeted in "student registration drives" designed to register voters 18 and over "multiples of times." Student registrants, registered to vote in their home states, had "pending absentee ballot applications" submitted so they could vote for president both in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. The Director of Elections in Erie has reported the telltale "same handwriting" on applications, according to Newman.

Marsico added that he believed the attempted fraud was being perpetrated in smaller Pennsylvania counties as well, counties where the resources to investigate simply don't exist.

Perhaps most humorously was the role of 21st century technology in tracking down several attempted frauds. Through the wonder of Google, aerial shots displayed the following:

* 2418 Curtin Terrace in Philadelphia is -- an empty field.
* 3103 S. 24th Street in Philadelphia -- ditto.
* 4543 N. 11th Street in Philadelphia -- ditto.

And so on. And on again.

Asked whether the Pennsylvania State Democratic Party had come forward to work with the GOP on the ACORN voter fraud issue, Gleason tersely shook his head. One source did say that much of the impetus for the fraud was "an Obama effort," as opposed to the Democratic Party as an institution.

All of this brings Pennsylvania into focus as yet another key battleground state where a serious effort is being made to, bluntly put, steal the presidency in a move reminiscent of the attempts made by the 2000 Gore campaign in Florida. Just as ACORN's efforts have been directed at key electoral states such as Florida, Colorado, Missouri, New Mexico Ohio, and Wisconsin, so within Pennsylvania have its efforts been targeted at key Pennsylvania counties. For decades the internal electoral math of the state for Republicans has been to overwhelm the heavy Democratic vote in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with strong showings in the Philadelphia suburbs, Central Pennsylvania, and western counties outside Pittsburgh.

Thus have ACORN's fraud efforts -- those at least that have been detected -- been directed at Philadelphia (where increasing the Obama total to counter less enthusiastic support from white ethnics becomes critical), Delaware County in the pro-GOP Philadelphia suburbs, Dauphin County (in the heart of Central Pennsylvania) and Erie in the Northwest.

Is it really possible that the presidency could be stolen for Obama by virtue of a massive voter fraud here in Pennsylvania? And elsewhere? ACORN seems to think so. One so-called "non-partisan" ACORN member, Gleason pointed out, has been captured on video tape saying the group's objective was to "beat McCain down." Not exactly "non-partisan" sounding, is it?

Newman, the retired Supreme Court Justice, was blunt on the evidence: "I don't want a president who does this."

ACORN clearly does. Makes you wonder: why?

boomshak:

Could you please enlighten us as to where you're finding all of this wonderful information?

The truth about ACORN:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/10/10

"Fact: Similar accusations were made, and attacks launched, against ACORN and other voter registration organizations in 2004 and 2006. These attacks were not only groundless, they have since been exposed as part of the U.S. Attorneygate scandal and revealed to be part of a systematic partisan agenda of voter suppression."

@[nemesis]:

"Yes boomshak, Sarah Palin's REAL SAT scores are under the name of Dawn... nice work there."

Oops, good catch, I misread the story. The scores attributed to "Dawn" were not Sarah's real scores, but that was the image that was stolen off the internet and then doctored to look like Sarah Palin's scores using photoshop.

So, in other words, the Sarah Palin SAT scores are a photoshopped fake, but we don;t know what her real scores are.

Sorry for getting that wrong in my post, as I said, just misread the story.

@Rames1980:
The truth about ACORN:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/10/10

"Fact: Similar accusations were made, and attacks launched, against ACORN and other voter registration organizations in 2004 and 2006. These attacks were not only groundless, they have since been exposed as part of the U.S. Attorneygate scandal and revealed to be part of a systematic partisan agenda of voter suppression."

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!?

Groundless? There are members of ACORN in prison right now for voter fraud. Watch this report from CNN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdAr7QtHG8k

LEFTWING NUT-O-SPHERE FALLS FOR FAKE PALIN SAT SCORES: PARTIAL RETRACTION

Retraction: The scores attributed to "Dawn" were not Sarah's real scores, but that was the image that was stolen off the internet and then doctored to look like Sarah Palin's scores using photoshop.

So, in other words, the Sarah Palin SAT scores are a photoshopped fake, but we don;t know what her real scores are.

Sorry for getting that wrong in my post, as I said, just misread the story.

-

This is to too funny. Somebody photoshopped Sarah Palin's SAT Scores to make her look stupid and the whole left wing nut-o-sphere fell for it hook line and sinker.

Here is the REAL SAT scorecard:

http://www.offoffoff.com/dawn/scholap.jpg

And here is the FAKED card posted by DailyKos:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/10/Picture_754.jpg

As you can see, her real scores were 700 verbal and 640 math, both very good.

You leftwing moonbats will believe anything. Get used to it though. This kind of deception will be common in an Obama Administration.

"Groundless? There are members of ACORN in prison right now for voter fraud."

The way I see it is that ACORN has been more the victim of fraud than an instance planning fraud. These incidents look like they're done by people wanting to make a quick buck off ACORN, and blown out of proportion by the GOP, who of course are appalled that low-income people are being registered to vote.