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VA: McDonnell 55 Deeds 40 (PPP 10/23-26)


Public Policy Polling (D)
10/23-26/09; 729 likely voters, 3.6% margin of error
Mode: Automated phone
(PPP release)

Virginia

2009 Governor
McDonnell 55%, Deeds 40% (chart)

Favorable / Unfavorable
Creigh Deeds (D): 38 / 49
Bob McDonnell (R): 56 / 36

Job Approval / Disapproval
Pres Obama: 42 / 52 (chart)

 

Comments
RaleighNC:

Z'OMG! I would love a 15+ point blow out!!!

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Stillow:

The GOP is killing the Dems this year in VA....Lt. Governor and AG are both going to be republican victories as well. Not to shabby for a dead party. These wins won't be tiny either, all 3 statewide races in VA look to be landslide victories for the GOP.

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wakeup:

Dear President Obama,
Thank you so much for the revival of conservatism.
Sincerely,
America

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Aaron_in_TX:

According to the crosstabs, hispanics in VA disapprove of Obama more than whites do, and blacks approval is only 78%. I find that a little hard to believe. It's way too heavy on baby boomers 45-64 - they are half the sample. Only 44% of respondants indictated they voted for Obama in the election where he got 53%, while 48% indicated they voted for McCain, when he got 46%. This poll also seems to be tilted toward rural people, but that may indeed be who turns out. This isn't about Obama supporters changing their mind - it's about them being complacent and stuck with a bad candidate, so they're not coming out.

Generally, when your party's supporters are engaged and the others are not, the engaged party tends to win. It's not rocket science.

The question regarding whether the Dems should have chosen a different candidate is instructive: only 34% think they chose the right person.

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Stillow:

Aaron, why is that hard to beleive? The Dems seem to think they have a lock on hispanics. They do not. You Dems seem to think no matter what you do or say you will just get hsipanic and black votes....it does not work that way. Just because they are hispanic or balck does not make them stupid as you think they are. They actually do think and have opinions.

You guys take the minority vote for granted, espeically the hispanic vote. I'm marreid to a hispanic and I assure you, they are stubborn people who are free thinkers. If you think you can just control them, you have another thing coming. You guys are in for a big big surprise....the way the Dems treat miniority groups will backlash on you and do so very very hard.

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Aaron_in_TX:

"You guys take the minority vote for granted, espeically the hispanic vote. I'm marreid to a hispanic and I assure you, they are stubborn people who are free thinkers."

It sounds like you're generalizing based on your wife, who I'm sure has somewhat similar values as you do or you'd never have been attracted to her.

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Aaron_in_TX:

"Just because they are hispanic or balck does not make them stupid as you think they are. They actually do think and have opinions."

Where did I say that? I just think it's a little odd for a group that went for Obama by 30 points to have had a 50-60 point swing in less than a year.

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Stillow:

Perahps because he is doing a lousy job...........he tunred out to be way more liberal than he calimed to be during the campaign. Contrary to popular beleif, hispanics are not flaming liberals....

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Shassy:

It is not the case that Dems think that have locked in minorities. Do you think it is coincidental that the conservatives have only one color?

Conservatives have opposed real reform in America on almost everything. They want to live in the 20th century. Well that is why many educated Americans do not align themselves with you. Call them elites but that is the case. Find me one scientist who is Rep/Con.

Those who align with cons do so for their pocket. Thus they preach tax cuts for themselves. Reagan more than doubled the debt of America with the tax cuts dazzle but you fail to talk about it.

Take a look at the debt of America since WWII and see which administration until the current collapse increased America's debt the most.Thus when you complain, it has no merit. Just plain old whine.

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Shassy:

You guys seem to have a short memory. Your idol pres Reagan increased the debt of America the most since WWII. And pres Bush and his son pres Bush continued the same trend. Were they dems? point to the period of prosperity(the markets and main street) in America during which the administration was rep.

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Stillow:

Reagan brought us out of a recession that when comparing numbers to numbers is worse than the current recession. He also talked about the debt many times, he did go along with a lot of spending the libs who dominated congress wanted in order to corner the coviets. Clinton, like Reagan was pro small g'ment, but he had the good fortune of having a conservative congress so spending wasn't out of control. Bush was fiscally a liberal so he spent money on everything he could think of. Nixon was fiscally a liberal too who favored big g'ment and stupid fiscal policy.

Tell Bobby Jindal conservatives are one color, tell cl,arance thomas, tell my wife. Liberals are teh only racists left i nthis country. Break everyone down in racial groups then you try to get the votes of thsoe racial groups...your racism will be your downfall i nthe long term.

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Shassy:

Ever wonder your party is on the verge of extinction? Reagan brought you from Recession? the recession started on his watch and he together with Bush spiked the debt. You are afraid to talk about it because that is the fact. None of your idols left the scene with a good picture. You can deny all you want but you cannot produce any cogent defenses.

America is such a big place to name two people of color and say my party is all-inclusive. That is laughable. People of color are not blind. take Asian-American for instance. They are the most educated group in America and then take a look at where their support lies.

When was real reform done in America and that was proposed by your idols? your unbridled tax cutting agenda only ended up with the highest income inequality gap in America.

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Stillow:

You said reagan cuased the recession? Ok, you just totally discredited yourself...thanks for wasting my time.

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Stillow:

No wonder you guys are getting a beat down in VA.......................

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Xenobion:

Gov races are useless I believe Stillow told me this about local State Senate/House races as well :)

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Shassy:

@ Stillow: do you understand what it means to say when something started and who started it? Dems have had a good run in VA and guess what? they run the in such a way that VA was adjudged the best managed state. If GOP wins, it will your turn to turn a better result.

After Clinton, Bush gave us a stark difference between good results and bad results. After Kaine we will see if it will turn out to be a buyers' remorse.

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Stillow:

Why are you wasting my time....You've proven to not know what your talking about. Clinton was a smll g'ment advocate, pretty fiscally conservative who worked well with a conservative congress. Bush was an ultra fiscal liberal...he couldn't find enough things to spend money on....I voted for Clinton in 1996 becasue he was a fiscal conservative and did not vote for Bush in 2004 because he was a fiscal liberal.

Get the D and R out of your rear end....its not about that, its con vs lib.

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Stillow:

Nice try X....almost, almost, but what I said is the party label does not matter in local races. Its much more con vs. liberal....

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Shassy:

@ Stillow: you rather do not know anything. You make hollow arguments. Clinton was a D. He implemented progressive policies. Conservatives did not cheerlead during Clinton's time. Give me a conservative administration that you liked in recent memory that had improved prosperity in America. Can you name one?

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Stillow:

Lets see the Reagan administration for one...created over 20 million new jobs, ended the recession fro mthe carter years...and itwa sa time of great prosperity for the middle class and they rewarded him with a 49 state landslide in 1984...and again in 1988 by electing Bush sr....the first time a party kept the WH for more than 8 straight years since WW2.

Clinton was a fiscal conservative...progressive policies? What, like welfare reform? Clinton was a msall g'ment fiscal conservtive....it was he who decalred the era of big g'ment OVER. Conservatives slammed him on his perosnal issues and social policies. I am talking fiscally, clinton was conservative....supported fair taxes, small g'ment and low federal spending. And like the 80's....the focus o nthose thigns led to wide spread prosperity!
Under fiscally liberal presidents like Carter and W, things got crappy.

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Shassy:

Clinton raised taxes on the rich right? fiscal conservative? He produced the longest period of prosperity in America. About Reagan, do you know much much debt he piled? fiscal conservative right? Bush senior? do you know how much debt he left? did you know that there was a recession under his watch? oh yes "the read my lips" quote. The point is that there is no conservative or rep admin with clean slate.

you go back to Carter's time but you do not know what caused the recession in 1982 do you? tell me. Again just go back and see which administration in recent history created wealth both in the main street and the market. You are not a student of economics so you do not know how economies work. Most conservative proposals belong to centuries ago. Not in this modern times.

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Shassy:

@ Stillow, how much is the Unemployment rate in your state NV? one of the worst right? over 13 percent officially. I thought states led by cons as you say do fine.

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Aaron_in_TX:

The only states doing fine are small rural ones like ND, SD, VT, MT, WY etc... that the recession doesn't effect too much.

In September, the only sizeable state in the top 10 lowest unemployment was VA, and I'll bet this is largely driven by gov't employment.

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Aaron_in_TX:

In fact, South Carolina and Oregon have almost identical unemployment rates - 11.6 and 11.5 respectively. So unemployment doesn't discriminate based on their vote.

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Stillow:

Shassy

Do you know anything? I mean anything about how g'ment works? See there is this thing called Congress and this other thing called the presidency, the two work together to pass laws and other policies. in the 80's Reagan had to go along with liberal spending from a liberal congress...in the 90's Clinton, even if he was forced into it had to work with a conservative congress which kept his spending in check. Under Carter and W you ha done party control and spending went psycho and severe recessions occured.

When was the last time a liberal decalred the era of big g'ment over? Obama makes clinton look like barry gold water. The 80's and 90's worked because the overall emphasis was on small g'ment....Reagan had to go along with liberal spending and clinton had to go along with conservative restraitns on spending.

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Shassy:

@Stillow: You have no clue what caused the recession on 1982. You blamed it on Carter and big government spending. That is a farce and completely incorrect. Go back and check the debt level of the US under Carter. It actually declined. The recession was caused by the rising oil price followed by volcker's contractionary monetary policy to "break the back of double digit inflation.

You are no student of economics. you only speak in terms of politics and quite rudimentary without understanding the subtleties and the latency of the problems. You think you can just reduce economic problem into one line zingers? no!

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