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Feingold is my favorite Senator. Ron Johnson seems like a good man based on what I've heard so far but the Senate needs maverick agitators like Feingold, and they don't have enough of them as it is.

I don't get Feingold. He doesn't vote for financial reform for being too watered down, but he votes for the watered-down health care reform (watered down due to White House deals with PhRma).

Those two votes are inconsistent. I think Feingold got scared because he saw that Johnson was closing in on him, so he decided that somehow developing cojones now (when it's too late) would win him brownie points. Looks likes that's not the case, because Republicans will remind the public that Feingold voted for health reform.

My advice to politicians is: stop being phonies. If you are going to be a real liberal be a real liberal all the time. Feingold should have sent a message to the White House by not voting for a bill without a public option and drug re-importation )Dorgan amendment).

So i won't cry for you Feingold if you lose to this Johnson. Johnson is much worse than feingold but again, we need real liberals in Congress. Right now there are no liberals in congress. No, Dennis Kucinich is not a real liberals. He only pretends to be a liberal when he endorses a bill that he knows is going to lose 1 million to one. Why did he cave to Obama and the centrists? Remember when Kucinich would tell us that the bill was crap without a public option? Well, one day Kucinich allegedly saw the light and decided that the bill was worth voting for. Your Congressmen are phonies.

Let's go back to Feingold. Did you know Feingold signed a letter condemning the flotilla that was sending food and clothes to Gaza because they "provoked" Israel forcing Israel to kill a dozen people? Yup, that's your typical "liberal" Congressman at work. By the way, Al "liberal" Franken signed that letter too.

In conclusion, there are no liberals in Congress.

I repeat Breitbart Rasmussen works with Fox News.Am hearing Shirley Sherrod is going to file a law suit against Fox News also in the coming days.

Russ Feingold will not lose. He is always in close races. He's actually probably up by 3-4% if we factor in the Raz effect.

"Raz effect" means that other pollsters will be publishing the similar results within the next week or two.

I would love to see Shirley Sherrod launch a lawsuit against foxnews... for what showing video of what she said, but not her entire statement. If thats a good ground almost anyone can sue michael moore.

These numbers will change once Obama cuts a TV as for Feingold. Still, defending a state like Wisconsin means Dems will spend less money in CO, DE, KY, OH, MO, and IL.

And I repeat: Andy Kaufman is alive and well and posing as melvin on Pollster.com

Please send Obama to Wisconsin. Obama is toxic. He should be spending all his time in NY and Cali fundraising, because he aint exactly packing the people in anymore. He might still be able to raise money though.

Obama's above 50% in Wisconsin, send him to Milwaukee and he'll do just fine at getting out the vote.

Yeah, what nick said.

I know I post this on every Ras Wisconsin poll but 87% total favorable/unfav for Johnson is just silly. He does NOT have anywhere close to 87% name recognition of November voters.

This is strange that is more than half of WI voters on this poll have a favorable job approval of Obama, it is strange that Feingold would have even more of a lead over someone who is virtually unknown, and is a big money politician with BP stock.

It doesn't ad up. PA in contrast, Obama hasn't been doing that well so when I see Sestak trailing it isn't a surprise.

I guess Obama can still have an impact in this state.

nick283:

Please send Obama to Wisconsin. Obama is toxic.

Posted on July 29, 2010 6:08 PM

Yeah, it's not like he has a positive approval rating in Wisconsin or anything according to Rasmussen. Oh wait...

And even if he didn't, tell me Feingold wouldn't like to have a fundraiser with Obama in a Dem-heavy area of the state anyway. A candidate in a close race can never have enough in the bank, and there aren't many better ways of raising money than bringing in a President, no matter how popular he is. People who are pissed off at Obama are going to vote for Johnson whether or not Feingold ties himself to Obama. Did Bush never do fundraisers for Republicans in states that were hostile to Bush? It's quite unsettling that so many people seem to accept talking points as verbatim.

Well, Jack, of course Feingold is a slimy, spineless coward on some issues. He is a politician after all. Nobody bats .1000 in political dealings. Or even .200 for that matter.

More Rasmussen BS

TeaPartyRules:
"Raz effect" means that other pollsters will be publishing the similar results within the next week or two. "

Let's keep track, shall we? Most importantly let's see the numbers on November 2.

Behind the curve in Nevada. Behind the curve in Illinois. Totally out of step in Florida. And had Paul ahead by 25 in Kentucky. That's Rasmussen.

There are 72 counties in Wisconsin, and Feingold holds a listening session in each and every one of them, at least once per year. That means when he's not in Washington, he spends his weekends and off days listening to the concerns of his constituents.

He was one of just 28 Senators that voted against the invasion of Iraq, and the only Senator that voted against the original USA Patriot Act. Ironically, he was also the only Senator that actually READ the USA Patriot Act before the original vote.

He's one of the most principled and genuine public servants in the country, and he certainly isn't spineless, as some of you have implied.

Agree Ziriz. Sometimes he's a little too holier than thou for my taste, but he's certainly not unprincipled.

It's a shame we no longer have the DailyKos/R2000 polls to assure us Feingold is ahead by 10 points.

Ron Johnson is a political novice with big bucks. Just like Whitman, Fiorina and others. I don't know why stupid ordinary Americans allow themselves to be bought.

"It's a shame we no longer have the DailyKos/R2000 polls to assure us Feingold is ahead by 10 points."

This is the funniest thing I've heard all day.

Hmm, as a Wisconsin resident, I would love for this to be true. I'm very skeptical though.
I have to question the point made above about Feingold's listening sessions. Yes he has them in every county. Hooray? Shouldn't that be the bare minimum expected from someone representing the people?

I always thought of Feingold as one of very few in Congress with solid integrity. Good kid.

Dave, it certainly should be a bare minimum. However, in practice it's a heck of a lot more than we see from most politicians.

George W. Bush spent more than 1 out of every 3 days of his presidency on vacation. Most of his "listening sessions" were filled with hand-picked audiences, with hand picked questions that were all friendly to him.

Feingold faces some very hostile audiences, especially in conservative parts of the state, but still volunteers his time to address the peoples' concerns.

I knew it! As I always said - Ras and Fox will drive the narrative early in the cycle, but as election nears, they start moving to a more realistic model.

Case in point: Fox/Opinion Dynamics just came out.

BObama approve/dis 43/50

Generic Ballot Dem 36, GOP 47

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072910_ObamaElections.pdf

Those sneaky so-n-so's.

I guess Fox and Ras are not paying any attention to whatever Gallup is doing with their generic.

StatyPolly:
"I knew it! As I always said - Ras and Fox will drive the narrative early in the cycle, but as election nears, they start moving to a more realistic model.

Case in point: Fox/Opinion Dynamics just came out.

BObama approve/dis 43/50

Generic Ballot Dem 36, GOP 47

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072910_ObamaElections.pdf

Those sneaky so-n-so's."

I haven't had such a good laugh in a long time.

37% Dem 41% Rep 16% Ind.

Of 900 respondents

737 White 104 Black.

What planet did they poll?

Earth to Fox News, much as you would like them all deported, Hispanics are the SECOND largest ethnic group in this country. Oops you forget them???? And how might they respond to your questions?? Never mind....

StatyPolly:
"...Fox/Opinion Dynamics just came out.

BObama approve/dis 43/50

Generic Ballot Dem 36, GOP 47

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/072910_ObamaElections.pdf"

I take it you agree with the party ID for this poll since you posted the results without comment.

Does this look like the proper LV distribution to you? Seems they either pushed independents very hard to affiliate with some party and then lumped them together with that party (which I think is not a proper way to present data) or they knocked off more Dems then I think are warranted, even given an enthusiasm gap---or both.

VWisdom,

"Of 900 respondents 737 White 104 Black."

That leaves 59 unaccounted for. But Hispanic is not a race. Not according to U.S. Government. Most Hispanics identify themselves as white, and a few as black. A small portion calls themselves "pure Hispanic.

Hispanic, Herspanic, Itspanic. I wouldn't worry about. There is plenty of panic in this poll.

TJ,

If you look at the bottom of the poll, you can see that they count the first 900 RV's they can find. It fluctuates freely with each sample. Doesn't look like they weigh it. At least to my untrained eye. This is an RV sample, btw, not LV.

Not sure how much they push indies, but Dem and Repub gap has almost closed completely in recent weeks, according to people who crunch a lot of numbers on daily basis. Gallup and Ras. Even Pew's and CBS's latest polls had the gap down to 2 and 3 points. 41-37 for GOP might be a tad rich, but I am willing to overlook it. Close enough.

Much of this poll actually looks very accurate. Doyle's approval is typically in the mid to low 30s, so 38 is pretty consistent if not slightly better for Dems. Feingold's favorable is 52%, about what it has been ever since he's taken office and typically a sign that he should not be in trouble. This poll seems fairly legit given the other parameters. Dems and trolls (melvin, I'm looking in you direction), it is possible that Feingold is in serious trouble, despite being a fairly likable Senator. Then again, so was Lincoln Chaffee.

I believe from what I have seen else where that the "house effecr" on Senate races is about two percent + Republican. Factor that in and the margin of error this is a very close race right now. With Feingold possibly leading by a point or two
In a normal race you would expect Feingold to run negative ads to bring Johnsons favorables down. But that's not his style. When it is this close ground game is critical. Feingold probably has the infrastructure to pull that off.

VermontWisdom:
The percentage of the population is irrelevant at election time. It is the percentage of RV and LV that count.

In 2008 Latinos were 9% of registered voters. I doubt it is much higher than 10-11% right now. That number will grow rapidly over the years, but right now it is crucial only if Hispanics are block voters, like blacks.

Note that the Hispanic support for Obama has been dropping all year. Last I saw it was 55% or so. I suppose it could be higher for other dem candidates.

As has been pointed out by others, over time even Mexican and Central American meztisos are likely to increasingly consider themselves white, which has happened with southern Italians and others over time.

As recent immigrants, they will be still be more concerned about welfare, free medical care, getting jobs with the government, etc. than most whites, but that, too, will decline over time if they are successful in rising up the ranks. Since Latino immigrants are starting small businesses at a high rate, a sizable portion is likely to increasingly be swayed by the concerns of small businesses, which is regulations, paperwork, taxes, employment rules, etc.

On the other hand, with an illegitimacy rate of 50% and a very high drop out rate from HS, second generation Latinos are in danger of developing a sizable underclass of unemployables. Immigrants have a low crime rate, but their children have a crime rate substantially higher than whites and Asians, adding to the underclass population.

The wild card here is affirmative action for Latinos, which is senseless since they have no history of servitude and Jim Crow laws holding them down. If it is not ended soon, Latinos will fight to keep it. Why would they not, even if they think it is senseless themselves (which they do)? The fight to keep affirmative action would give blacks and Latinos common cause and keep them together politically in the dem party. That is why dems will fight tooth and nail and cries of racism to keep it.

If you gave Appalachians and Minnesotans lower standards and quotas (in everything but name), they, too, would fight to keep their affirmative action, also. Why would they not? Hey, given that everyone else assumes that white Southerners are poorly educated and poor, maybe we should be given special advantages, also.

I agree with Senator Webb that race and ethnic- based affirmative action is a bad idea and should be replaced by poverty-based affirmative action.

I hold to my prediction that if affirmative action is not changed to remove Latinos, 15-20 years from now blacks and Latinos will dominate the dem party to a degree that drives out non-Latino whites, including most of the younger liberals commenting on this site. Right now the Obama government is expanding affirmative action greatly beyond previous boundaries (see the recent for finance and medical reform bills for largely undiscussed provisions).