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MA: 2010 Gov (Rasmussen 5/10)

Topics: Massachusetts , poll

Rasmussen
5/10/10; 500 likely voters, 4.5% margin of error
Mode: Automated phone
(Rasmussen release)

Massachusetts

2010 Governor
32% Baker (R), 27% Ross (D), 16% Cahill (i)
45% Patrick (D), 31% Baker (R), 14% Cahill (i)

Favorable / Unfavorable
Deval Patrick: 53 / 47
Grace Ross: 24 / 27
Tim Cahill: 35 / 41
Charlie Baker: 51 / 34

Job Approval / Disapproval
Pres. Obama: 63 / 37
Gov. Patrick: 48 / 50

 

Comments
Farleftandproud:

Who the hell is Ross? I am really getting sick and tired of these primaries against good governors. Deval has been running a state through hard times, but here is a situation I can accuse a Democrat of racism. I am willing to bet Ross is from South Boston, and I know from experience that some of those people (Not all) but some are extremely racist. That is why Matt Damon got the hell out of Southie. They are very closeminded. I had a roommate in college whose friend was from there and the guy was like a young Limbaugh when it came to race.

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brian:

Farleft, you should do some research before you post.

"Ross" is Grace Ross. She ran unsuccessfully for Governor in 2006 as the Green Rainbow Party nominee. She is not from South Boston; she is from Northampton. She's an openly gay community activist who works with low-income families. Her challenge is not considered to be a serious one, but rather a platform to promote her issues. She couldn't be further from your outdated and offensive racist stereotyping of South Boston.

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jmartin4s:

Grace Ross is running against Patrick in the primary but this is why I don't trust Rasmussen whether they show a good result for democrats or not. Living in Massachusetts I can tell you people even in the heart of Boston really don't like Patrick. If Cahill wasn't in this race it wouldn't even be competitive and Patrick would be DOA. Thus I do not believe that Patrick is doing this well nothing has happened in Mass to be giving Patrick an approval rating bump at all.

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Ned:

jmartin4s:
No one trusts Rasmussen when it does not show a result consistent with that person's own personal bias. Rasmussen was one of the first pollster's to show Chris Christie surging in New Jersey, they showed Marco Rubio surging in Florida. Just one week ago Susquehana and Quinipiac showed Arlen Specter thumping Joe Sestak, Rasmussen showed the race tightening. Now magically all other pollsters are showing single digit leads for Sestak or ties. Whether you like the result or not Rasmussen has been extremely effective in picking up on trends other pollsters have not caught. Add to the fact that these are mid-term elections, which make "likely-voter" polls more accurate. It is perfectly concieveable that in a state with a massive democratic registration advantage as there is in MA, that 48% can approve of Patrick's job approval.

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Field Marshal:

Brian,

Don't you know? He can't be racist. Only conservatives are racist for making comments like that.

Obviously you are behind on the progressive ideology....

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Farleftandproud:

Mass is a state I have resided in and went to college in, so I can get away with joking about it. It would be like being part Irish and getting away with an Irish joke. I wouldn't get away with ragging on a state like Arkansas or Indiana.

I am not exactly a big progressive green person either. Patrick has been one of the greenest governors ever and it is insulting this woman is running. She won't stand a chance anyhow in Mass, just being a woman. We know how sexist it is. In fact they are not my kind of people either. I consider myself a practical progressive. It is good to have primaries and have a debate of ideas, however I have seen some from the far left, starting with Ralph Nader do everything possible to assault both the Democrat and Republican. Any progressive in my opinion who throws away their vote and causes a Republican to win is a traitor. It sort of defeats the purpose of the cause. They will complain about how bad the Republican is, but when the Republican wins, they continue to attack the Democrat for being too moderate.

I consider myself a progressive, but sometimes to win state or national office you can't campaign like one. You have to move to the center.

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brian:

Field Marshal:

I'm pretty much a progressive myself, so I don't appreciate the sarcasm.

What I truly cannot stand, however, are blanket statements and stereotyping. That's why Farleft's comments touched a nerve. (Not to mention, he just didn't know what he was talking about and couldn't have been more wrong!) But your comments touch a nerve, too. I'm a liberal... and was perfectly willing to call out a fellow liberal for making a stupid, offensive statement like that. So even if you're only joking, please don't say that it's "progressive ideology" to believe that only conservatives can be racist.

Why do we always have to throw labels on everyone... And act as if everyone fits into neat little boxes in a crystal clear manner. In my opinion, this is one of the biggest problems in politics today.

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Field Marshal:

"What I truly cannot stand, however, are blanket statements and stereotyping."

I thought that was good sarcasm but it is also the truth!

You're a liberal, er, i mean, "progressive" and you cannot stand blanket statements and stereotyping? Then what do you like about liberalism, again, i mean progressivism since that is the platform of the movement. Basically, it's populism in disguise with no basis in reality. Thus, it needs blanket stereotyping and statements.

As Bernie Goldberg once said, progressives only care about populist slogans that fit nicely on a bumper sticker.

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Field Marshal:

And i stand by my statement that if a conservative made the statement Farleft did about Southies, every single lefties on the board would be CRYING racist from here until eternity. The double standard among liberals... again, i mean progressives, is astounding.

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Aaron_in_TX:

Rasmussen tends not to be very accurate in MA until right before the election.

Seems like Cahill has imploded. Not sure why.

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Farleftandproud:

Hey, I never said that only conservatives are racist. I also didn't do my research when I was guessing about the person challenging Devol Patrick being a blue dog from southie. In my personal life there are conservatives I truly love! Most conservatives, I disagree with their views but don't dislike them. Of course there are a few exceptions like Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Glen Beck and Senator Inhofe who I see few redeeming qualities, but I have pointed out quite a few rational conservatives like Kaye Huchison and Bob Sen Corker for example.

Labels are not right, however I think in many respects I have been more fair and reasonable than others on this blog. I even said that comparing any American elected politician to Hitler or Stalin is insane. Americans have no idea what it is like to be rounded up and thrown into prison and starved to death or sent to the death chamber, just for being of a certain nationality or disagreeing with your leader. In China any of us could be imprisoned for arguing our points.

When the party I support does stupid things, and those I basically agree with for the most part like Ralph Nader or green candidates tell lies and mistruths I speak out against them, just as much as I would when Rush Limbaugh blames the volcano in Iceland on American health reform, or when Senator INhofe refuses to even meet Sodamayor. Those are examples of lack of civility. Lets not forget the heckler last Sept. Did John Kerry or Chuck Schumer heckle Bush when he gave his 2006 state of the Union?

I was less critical of conservatives who simply were outraged at what they thought were the high costs of HCR than those who in my book made up nonexistant lies like "death Panels". It is civil to be concerned about our National Debt, it isn't civil for some like Michelle Bachmann and others to speak to the same crowds that are also making threats on liberal politicians and carrying drawings of Obama as Hitler or a African tribesman.

The bottom line is I am on guard and can't let politicians who are not civil get away with it scott free. They have to be held accountable.

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Coldfusion:

I have been trolling this site for months now, and I haven't registers until today.

I have to say Field Marshal is such a joke. Yeah, he always right, conservatives are always right, liberals are always wrong, have nothing to add whatsoever, and the Dems will loss 200 House seats in November!

HA HA!

What I do gain from reading him, however, is that he reminds me that humans still have a long long way to progress still.

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Coldfusion:

I have been trolling this site for months now, and I haven't registers until today.

I have to say Field Marshal is such a joke. Yeah, he always right, conservatives are always right, liberals are always wrong, have nothing to add whatsoever, and the Dems will loss 200 House seats in November!

HA HA!

What I do gain from reading him, however, is that he reminds me that humans still have a long long way to progress still.

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StatyPolly:

Hey, ColdFission

Isn't there a minimal age requirement to post here?

BTW, you make a lousy troll, since you've never posted, and trolling a site requires posting inflammatory statements to draw attention to yourself. But.. you may have a future.

You oughta run back and check the sandbox. I bet that really mean kid is playing with your toys.

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Field Marshal:

Coldfusion,

Talk about a joke. Are you on recess or is it homeroom time?

The joke is that i post here to make fun of some of the liberals with my posts about their hypocrisy and race-baiting. However, some of my posts are to have actual debates and conversations with intelligent people on both the right and the left that refuse to use the same old tired talking points, name-calling, and rhetoric.

Clearly, you are going to be apart of the former.

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Aaron_in_TX:

Still waiting for anyone who has any insight as to why Cahill is so low in this poll?

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jmartin4s:

You know I thought after I told that Newton mayor story the racist discusions would stop. I see it made no difference. That absurd line will always remain stuck in my head from the confused voter, "How cool is it that we have a black mayor, black governor, and black president all in the same town."

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Coldfusion:

I believe the term is "lurk" and not "troll", but I will not claim to be an expert in web-culture.

I think the real issue is how anyone wo quote from Bernie Goldberg is clearly looking for nourishing positivity to spread in the world!

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Aaron_in_TX:

"How cool is it that we have a black mayor, black governor, and black president all in the same town."

It was probably cool because that town (collection of towns) is made up of mostly rich white people.

It's like having the cool black friend and going to a bar where mostly whites show up. Amazing how much more attention you get.

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seg:

Now, now. I think you conservatives are being too harsh with young (I hope) CoolFusion and not so young FarLeftAndProud.

Both are clearly romantic progressives (an almost but not quite redundant coupling), which means they need not think about what they say or make a coherent argument. After all, their hearts are pure, bigotry infects only others, and they are blessedly free of a self-aware ironic sensibilty.

Note that I am NOT saying all progressives are romantics: there might actually be one exception on these very pages. Sadly, some day he will become an entrepeneur and have to make payroll. It is sad because progressive beliefs rarely survive that experience for some reason. Perhaps that is why so many older progressives are so often career government or academic workers.

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StatyPolly:

Fission,

"clearly looking for nourishing positivity to spread in the world!"

This is coming from a guy/gal whose first and only post on this site had a single purpose - attack another poster personally. You need to up your game.

Seg,

Touché

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Aaron_in_TX:

"Sadly, some day he will become an entrepeneur and have to make payroll."

It takes at least $250,000 to start any kind of business. Usually more than that. And then some hardworking business people fail due to no fault of their own... I'd love to own a bookstore, but there's no way I could compete with either the Hastings in town or the Borders 15 miles up the highway.

I'm not sure why conservatives think "making payroll" makes someone superior.

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StatyPolly:

Aaron,

It doesn't necessarily take a lot of money to start a business. Many hugely successful businesses started as hobbies, with little or no initial capital. For example.

And no one said that making payroll makes anyone superior. Just in touch with real world realities.

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tjampel:

@FM

This is what both sides do. Your side is every bit as bad with it's "more freedom, less government, individual responsibility".

It may be true if the subject is non-abortion-related health care, where freedom to have no coverage and no treatment for otherwise terminal conditions (which is not available in ERs)is respected as a sacrosanct right.

However...at least for some Republican-controlled State Governments and/or past Republican-controlled Congresses one could make the case that (whether you agree or not):

it's the opposite if the subject is subsidies
it's the opposite if the subject is abortion.
It's the opposite if the subject is creationism
It's the opposite if the subject is gay adoption or marriage
it's the opposite if the subject is researching global warming
It's the opposite if the subject is spying on US citizen's cell phone conversations
it's the opposite if the subject is lawful citizens having to prove they're legal

So it seems to me that there's little point in trotting out generalizations about people or parties, because each person here is unique and their views may not conform to your (or my) stereotypes. It's also not a civil comment when you make blanket assertions about progressives nor is it when blanket assertions about conservatives are made in this forum. It's considered totally proper in Redstate or Daily Kos. This site is and should be different.

We've had some really good discussions recently in which posters on both sides of the political spectrum actually were able to have a conversation. I hope this may continue.


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Farleftandproud:

I am a romantic progressive and admit I go over the top at times on certain political figures I view as extremists, including Bob Mcdonnell, Mike Huckabee, and senate candidate Toomey. I think I try to view things in a philisophical sort of way, and how I would like things to be, rather than how they are. The reality, is that voters do not look at the actual issues a candidate stands for, and vote for them on one or two issues and don't see the big picture.

If I were elected to office, I would probably be a consensus leader, sort of like Obama on some issues like offshore drilling, energy immigration reform and middle class tax breaks. Something like health care reform however I would have responded to the support it had before all the attacks and town hall meetings. The status quo is NOT acceptable and I believe that at least 70 percent of the changes in the health care bill at least 65 percent of this country would support if they actually understood it. Nobody wants to be denied for pre-existing conditions and most Americans hate corporate monopolies.

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Field Marshal:

What makes McDonnell, Huckabee, and Toomey an extremist?

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tjampel:

In one conservative rating forum Toomey is the 22nd most conservative in Congress out of the last 1000 Congresspeople rated over about 10 years or so. Tom Tancredo is but one place ahead of him and, I believe he's marginally ahead of Kyl but behind Coburn. Rick Santorum...well, Toomey leaves him in the dust. Toomey is rated at 67. something Tancredo, 67...
Santorum is in the low 30s. I will try to find this URL .

Acording to ACU Toomey rates a lifetime 97% (making him the most conservative in the PA delegation), but this other rating system had a much wider distribution. Spector (mid 40s on ACU chart, rated near 0 on this other one; it's very sensitive to any taint of "librul".

Toomey will do his best to move to the center. It's the job of whoever takes him on to make him a big scary monster.

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Field Marshal:

By that accord tjampel, Obama is an extremist given he had the most liberal voting record in the senate in 2007 based on the few votes he didn't vote "present" on.

http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/voteratings/

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Farleftandproud:

Field Marshall: The reason I singled out Huckabee and Mcdonnell as extremists is because I think they try too hard or tried to hard to legislate morality and I think anyone who doesn't support gays in the military is out of date. Huckabee's statement about death panels troubled me, and his ignorant statements he has made from time to time on FOX condemning the right to be a liberal. It is like he would never listen to people who don't agree with him. Things he said made absolutely no sense like "Obama's health care plan would have led to Ted Kennedy's death".

Mcdonnell's confederacy day troubled me to push for it, and his cozy relationship with Cucinelli who has serious issues. A confederate flag in it's own way may sybolize bravery, valor and the pride of the past. To allow people to put it on their cars and homes is one thing, but this was clearly something he knew would anger people. Stripping certain laws that protected Gay and lesbians was also worrisome. I am straight, and proud of it, but know a lot of openly gay or bi-people, and even though they are a minority, it bothers me when any politican goes out of their way to take away their rights.

It is one thing when Chris Christie in NJ said he would veto a gay marriage law; I support it, but know it is still a contreversial issue. In much of New England, other than NH, most Republicans support civil unions but not gay marriage, which I respect.

I think I have to learn more about Toomey, and wait and see how he runs his campaign, but if he is anything like Santorum he won't win. When I saw that chart that said his voting record was more conservative than Jesse Helms, that sounds like an extremist to me. PA is too much of a culturally diverse state to take it in a direction of Oklahoma or Texas.

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tjampel:

@Field Marshal: When I retire to my cherry orchard I DEFINITELY have work for you as a master "Picker".

It's convenient, politically to accept one meme or another like "everyone knows that FDR screwed up the economy of the US" but, sooner or later, you have to face facts. Fortunately they are readily available. Here they are...for Obama's last full voting year in Congress:

From ElectoralVote.com; 2007 Ratings from liberal orgs

CDF=Children's Defense Fund
LCV= League of Conservation Voters

You ought to no the other groups by now.

ACLU 88%
ADA 75%
CDF 60%
LCV 67%
NAACP N/A
NARAL 100%
SEIU 90%
Mean 80%

Cardin, Feingold,Reed, and Menendez lead the pack, tied at 96%
Obama comes in at # 42, just behind Robert Byrd
Joseph Lieberman is just two places back at 78%
Olympia Snowe is only 5 places back at 75%

How about examining behavior? Isn't that an even better judge than mere ratings (happy to give you that fallback poosition). In the case of Obama, the "hard-left Socialist"; what's he done as President?

Obama cut deals with pharma in return for killing the amendment to HCR which would have allowed the reimportation of much cheaper drugs from Canada and would have saved us 120 Billion, opposed an audit of the Fed, tried to weaken derivatives legislation pushed by Grassley and Lincoln, supports FISA-related spying on cell phone conversations, is currently arguing for some restriction of Miranda rights for suspected terrorists, supports building nuclear plants, supports some offshore drilling, and just nominated someone for SCOTUS who is universally disliked by the hard left of the party...make that reviled.

Go ahead and call him a hard-left socialist if it sounds good to you. Real hard-left socialists just laugh. They hate him. I know a few.

Now, do real hard-right extremists laugh at Toomey? Why should they. He's voted exactly the way they like for his entire career. He ran the Club For Growth, for Christ's sake. That's as much a statement about what and who he is as Obama's skin is what his ethnicity is.

OK...now back to reality.

For Toomey to be standing there sandwiched between Kyl and Tancredo, there is a real question as to how people in PA will take that all in. Do PA residents want a Tom Tancredo? Do they want a guy who's ratings blow Santorum away?

You obviously like his chances. Stick with your horse. I'm betting on any horse that can get the message across to voters about who Toomey is; what Club for Growth is, and what it stands for. We'll see who wins.

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