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What, no polls for Wyoming today?
:-)

Oh no! There's goes Obama's chances for 50 state sweep.

Way to go my home state... 50 state sweep for Odumbo???? Atleast we in Idaho are not that dumb.

McCain/Romney 2008

Romney/Huckabee 2012

Believe it or not... the Senate race in Idaho is being closely watched. Republican "Larry" Craig (remember him?) is not running for re-election. Democrat "Larry" LaRocco actually has a chance.

This "Larry" ID was a humorous issue where Obama/LaRocco buttons were printed up but the manufacturer used the picture of "Larry" Craig.

How about Obama/Jefferson buttons for Louisiana? Is slick Willie J. trying to hitch a ride on BOs coattails?

Wow, McCain is 16% down from Bush '04 in Idaho--the same kind of slide we're seeing in MT and ND. McCain needs a lessen from W on how the West is won.

I don't know a thing about this pollster, but it would appear the Idaho Senate seat has officially entered the "bears watching" list. This is three different pollsters all showing essentially the same results: Risch around 41 percent and LaRocco around 30 with the third-party conservative pulling in the mid-single digits.

About 600,000 ballots were cast in Idaho in 2004 (Idaho Sec. of State), and there's been about 2 percent annual population growth there this decade (census.gov). So figure on 625,000 ballots this time. With three candidates, the Democrat could win with 40 percent of that, or 250,000 votes.

The Democratic candidate for governor in 2006 got about 200,000 votes. Can Obama and LaRocco increase turnout by 25 percent and make it happen? Voter turnout statewide in 2006 (off-year) was 60 percent, and in 2004, it was 75 percent and 75 percent is a 25 percent increase from 60 percent.

I don't know a thing about Idaho, but if the third-party candidate splits votes away from Risch, there could be a real fight here.

The Idaho Senate seat has officially entered the "bears watching" list. This makes three different pollsters all showing essentially the same results: Risch around 41 percent and LaRocco around 30 with the third-party conservative pulling in the mid-single digits.

About 600,000 ballots were cast in Idaho in 2004 (Idaho Sec. of State), and there's been about 2 percent annual population growth there this decade (census.gov). So figure on 625,000 ballots this time. With three candidates, the Democrat could win with 40 percent of that, or 250,000 votes.

The Democratic candidate for governor in 2006 got about 200,000 votes. Can Obama and LaRocco increase turnout by 25 percent and make it happen? Voter turnout statewide in 2006 (off-year) was 60 percent, and in 2004, it was 75 percent and 75 percent is a 25 percent increase from 60 percent. So: yes. They can get 250,000 Democratic votes.

As far as the third-party candidate, here's what we know: Ron Paul did very well in Idaho. The results in the primary were McCain 70 percent and Ron Paul 24 percent.

So, let's imagine LaRocca's ceiling is 40 percent, and the conservative/ Republican/ libertarian majority comprises 60 percent of the state. For Risch to win, he'd need 41 percent of all votes -- equalling 68 percent of the that center-right majority. Seeing how the Ron Paul types seem to have about a quarter of the center-right majority, Risch seems like he's in good shape. But if Rammell runs a good campaign -- and he's got as much money as LaRocca does ($250000) on hand ...

Naaaaah.

Sorry about the double-post. Is it possible to delete my first one? It was a draft, and I didn't know I was posting it.

You cannot compare these polls for McCain/Obama to Bush's 2004 election unless you account for the undecided voters (in this case 15% undecided and 14% either). That is 19% voters unaccounted for. Think about it.

I'm Greg Smith, President of Greg Smith & Associates who did the Idaho U.S. Senate poll about which you are reading.

I'd enjoy corresponding, or for that matter send you a copy of this and a Presidential poll we did earlier in the week (also in Idaho). To that end, my e-mail address is:

gregsm@quickidaho.com

Look forwrad to hearing from you!

How hypocritical can you get. All the Hollywood stars show up at the stadium for the speech. Wasn't this suppose to be about the common people that need wealth redistribution? Oprah Winfrey shows up with thick sunglasses with diamond studs on the side embroidered Obama. Does Hollywood get it? One would think that this extravaganza might just be Obama's undoing. The presidency of these United States belong to the people it represents. This kind of affair makes it look like a kingdom for the elite. It seems that the Obama campaign didn't learn from the Europe debacle. Also congratulations to Mr. Obama for making history tonight.

I don't know what decade you are living in. This isn't a rich/poor election. Hollywood is influence. Although Oprah is freaking rich she is a normal person in many ways and has one of the most watched television shows. This event is supposed to be fun and not some sort of speech to the proletariat about taking up arms to fight against the man. Obama's campaign is grassroots and very unconventional with a lot of technology influencing his fund raising.

I feel bad for the guy. This was a poorly written speech. He couldn't deliver it with any energy. Perhaps I was expecting to much but this speech was all over the map and he was very difficult to follow.

I give up. I have to concede to all the doubters. Anyone that says Obama is not a "rock star". you are wrong. Obama is the biggist "rock star" on the planet.

I very much enjoyed the claws of Obama's attacks something I've been waiting for, for some time. McCain and his similarities to Bush seem to be sticking more and more everyday. I can't wait to see McCain's convention. McCain just doesn't have the energy to provide a platform.

@ player

Oh yeah, like the DNC is gonna be shaking in its boots because they have a candidate that people love.

P.S.
If memory serves me right, Republicans elected a President not too long ago that was a film actor. Celebrity... huh...

@Vandrop:
Hey, I just gave my personal observations. You can take it any way you want. I'm not a republican.

I expected a much better speech from Obama... especially after Hillary's great performance. Where's the feeling?

Repigs, especially John Sidney McCain III, are not celebrities?

If celebrity is defined as an appearance on a TV show, made for TV movie, or movie for theater release, John McCain, since 1998, has appeared in at least 47 different 'titled shows', and on some shows he's appeared multiple times (for instance, 12 times on The Daily Show, 8 times on Letterman, 9 times on Larry King, 10 times on Leno).

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0564587

And how much does Senator John Sidney McCain III respect women?

He once 'joked' about Chelsea Clinton at a Republican fundraiser, saying "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." He later apologized. It would have been better if he hadn't said that at all, though.

Chelsea Clinton is ugly.

Sergei Groinka said...
"Chelsea Clinton is ugly."

Spoken like a real chauvinist, as in "Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind" definition of that word.

You really should not speak things that uphold the stereotype that the Republicans are chauvinists, Sergei. Besides, even if she does not look like a supermodel, I'm sure she is more intelligent than most of the posters here, especially the Republicans whose posts here uphold that stereotype of that party.

@kiptin&player

how can anyone take you guys seriously when no matter what you always try to spin every that obama does as negative. you dont even give an honest opinion. it s just bash obama. i thought maybe you were only not voting for obama because you didnt like his policies.i could respect that. but all im seeing on here is hateful tirade after hateful tirade. you dotn even objectively look at the polls. objectively even i can see that neither candidate is on solid ground in the polls. but you wont do it no matter how the polls look. so to me you have a no real insight ino this election. just hateful rhetoric.

No one is bashing Obama. We are just pointing out that he is just too inexperienced to become the president. US economy is in some serious trouble. I don't think Obama has enough knowledge of national economy like Romney or McCain. Obama is quite intelligent and hardworking. Agreed. But to be the president of US, a lot more is required.

I'm glad we're discussing the Idaho polling here so thoroughly.

It's Palin

Odd with so much focus on Obama's inexperience, that McCain goes out to find someone with less experience than Obama. Why not KB Huthinson if he's looking for a female running mate? Can't wait to see Biden destroy Ms. Palin in the VP debate.

Hello backfire VP choice. Well at least McCain gets to hold on to Alaska.

What a smart move for McCain! I can't wait to see the next Alaska polls. In Alaska, Obama is toast!

Good Morning Sergei-
Did you see the news? Now what were you saying about experience?

Does McCain think he is going to get Hillary supporters by picking Palin? Hillary supporters didn't just want any woman. Hell, if picking a woman was such a great idea, Walter Mondale would have been President. No, Hillary supporters wanted Hillary to be vice-president, not just any unqualified woman.

I think I saw her in that Herbal Essences Commercial. You know that stuffy librarian that takes down her hair and takes off her glasses and shouts, "YES YES YES!"

Andrew-
Let's be positive about this. McCain with this announcement has finally told a funny joke!

Heh, I know you guys would slam her, but its a great move. I heard Obama gave a speech last night or soemthing? McCain took his steam. Palin is a solid conservative, good looking woman. I saw a talking head fro mthe Obama campaign this morning and he was stumbling on what to say, he had no idea how to attack Palin. A former mayor, current governor, conservative, pro gun rights, pro life, lots of kids, one of whom volunteered for military service. Sorry guys, but the wildcard pick has Obama a little shocked.....and every station is talking about Palin and no one is talking about Obama's speech.......McCain did what he wanted to do.

Reading some other blogs this mroning, the left is attacking Palin's experience.....are you kidding? She has more expereince than the top of your ticket. Mayor, governor, those are executive level seats. For Obama to make the argument of a lack of expereince should be an SNL skit. The fact that that was your first reaction says you know this pick is bad news for the Obamanation. First impressions are a big win for McCain.....could change as time goes on, but its a winner for him now...and he totally took the legs out of Obama's speech last night.

note the sexist already from the obama fans...

The only question is whether Hillary's fiercely pro-choice supporters are gonna jump on the bandwagon with this fiercely pro-life nobody. My money says no. It should help the GOP pick up Alaska's 3 electoral votes. Not sure what it will do for the important states like OH, PA, and MI though.

I love how people are making an argument that Palin has more qualifications than Obama. So if Obama is wildly underqualified for the job, she is less wildly underqualified?

Heheh, again you bring up expereince....hilarious. Something you said all along doesn't matter, now its the most important thing.....do you need a rag to wipe off the egg? The left looks totally foolish making that argument. Please keep it up.

The Obama campaign can call me if they need advice (which I doubt). What was McCain's strongest argument against Obama? the one that reasonated with independents? It was his lack of experience. Just read Sergei's post on this thread. McCain can never use that argument again.

Palin does not yet have two years tenure as Alaska's governor. Before that she was mayor of Wasilla, pop. 9000! McCain is a 72 year old cancer survivor. If McCain became seriously ill, do you believe that Sarah Palin would be qualified to lead this nation?

heheh, i don't mean to laugh, but your expereince argument cracks me up. All I can say is, PLEASE run with that.

Mayor of a town of 9,000 people and Governor of a state without any political clout. Experience indeed. The burden of proof lays on McCain to prove to America that she has the tenacity to govern more than 1 million people (Sorry Alaska).

Stillow, if you're the right speaking, then the right looks totally foolish saying Obama doesn't have enough experience and then picking a woman who has less experience than he does to be the VP, one step away from the presidency.

Much as the right would like this to be a "brilliant choice", personally I am relieved that it is not Pawlenty, which would have put Minnesota in play.

I am much more confident, now, that Obama will be winning this election.

What is Palin's experience on foreign affairs? Does being the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska uniquely qualify her as Commander and Chief to lead the fight againt the global war on terror and deal with resurging Russia. She is in tight with big oil, so I guess that's one important qualification to being a GOP nominee. A predict a bump for McCain, and then a landslide win for Obama in November. I thought it would be close before today.

@sherman

uhhh, Obama is the TOP of the ticket with no expereince. Palin has exectuive expereince, you can trash Alaska all you like, but last I checked its still a state. As VP she can learn more expereince under McCain....but like I said, I beg you to keep hammering her on expereince. It working, really, it is.

You guys are destorying yourselves. You are slamming her on expereince as #2 o nthe ticket....and Obama has less expereince and he is #1.....you guys are either totally desperate, or you need new kool aid. I guess she could have been an community organzor, but was mayor instead......c'mon...keep it up, your destorying your own guy and don't even realize it.

Saying we are destroying ourselves is laughable. Its your burden to prove her experience.

Last I checked her experience is

1) not very impressive as she governed a town of no more than 9,000 people.

2) Governed a state for 1 and a half years that doesn't reflect very similar values to the rest of the Country.

3) There has yet to be any sort of comparison of HOW her experience is more constructive than Obama's. She hasn't been in the fire of more contentious politics.

4) 0, none, not an iouta of foreign policy experience. Hell, less than Obama's by infinity.

5) Totally nullifies so many arguments McCain had over Obama. Sorry but the comparisons there even if you don't agree with them.

No dude, we're just pointing how your best argument against Obama is now totally off the table. Lol at 'as VP she can learn more experience under McCain'. She's like the Karate Kid, and he's Miagi.

LOL! Stillow, you're too funny! Right, we're destroying our own guy! McCain's the one making the case that Obama doesn't have enough experience, not the other way around. He just undercut his own argument. I don't see any rational logic coming from you, but don't let that stop you, dude. Let it rip! :)

She can learn the vice presidency lolz. Will she take night classes before McCain croaks and graduate on time?

Bill Kristol called this pick two months ago, but he was laughed at. I don't know what to make of this pick yet. However, I had rather the first woman president or the first black president for that matter come from the GOP. The reasoning is obvious. The candidate would be conservative and more acceptable as to the defense of this country. Also the candidate would have some religious backing which would be definitely needed.

You guys are now comparing Obama's expereince to Palins?

C'mon, you ugys are bloggers, you know how this stuff works. McCain has set Obama up. If Obama slams her on expereince like you guys, he makes himself look lame, because he has the same level of expereince if not less. the only difference is he is the top of the ticket, she is the #2.
Trust me, Obama isn't stupid, he will not attack her o nthis front because its like shooting himself i nthe leg. I realize your initial response is rpoabbly not the official response, I am sure the alking point swill be relased on her today soemtime which will have much stronger arguments against her. But the expereince front is a failure for you guys....you can't slam the #2, when she has more expereince than the #1 on your side and expect the people to not see how lame that looks.
My advice to you, is wait for the talking points and stop digging yourselves a hole. I assure you, Obama will not make expereince an issue.

Who says Obama has to make her experience evident? Clearly the media will make this an issue as the blogging community is already abuzz about it. The blogging community make McCain's AGE an issue and it got media coverage without any serious attacks from Obama. Palin wasn't vetted and so she'll be thrown to the dogs to discover her by the media. The writing is on the wall. She'll be vetted for experience like everyone in this campaign if Obama wanted to or not. The difference is Obama has been able to at least make a case about it for over a year. Palin has 2 months.

I turned the channel over to MSNBC. I couldn't believe that Andrea Mitchell was already slamming Palin. Boy, those people on that channel have given surrogacy a new definition.

Aside from MSNBC most other networks other than Fox have said that she's either a liability or an extreme risk.

Andrea Mitchell is in lust with Obama.

Stillow-
"Palin has exectuive expereince"

This is getting embarrassing. Alaska has one of the smallest populations of any state and it isn't clear that she was qualified to be governor of Alaska.

I just read that she believes that Creationism should be taught in public schools. After eight years of having an anti-science administration now we hear that it going to be MORE OF THE SAME. McCain chose a right wing nut to be one heartbeat away from the presidentcy! That's great!

Obama up 8 in latest Gallup Poll. Time to put these last eight abysmal George Bush years behind us and look forward to some real change in Washington.

Obama does not have any "foreign policy" experience (like Palin) so he says instead that he has "good" judgement. McCain has been going after Obama's "judgement" and not his experience. Pay attention.

Palin has administrative experience in governance. She had been full time governor since her election. Whereas, Obama has been campaigning almost since the day he became U.S. Senator. Do the math. Obama looks AWOL compared to Palin.

So is Obama now going to mock Palin as Annie Oakely? I hope so. This choice is a big plus for McCain in the West. And also in Indian Country... Palin's husband is Native Alaskan. Her husband being a union member (Steelworkers) and a commercial fisherman does not hurt with the blue collar vote.

Stillow:

At 12:54 you posted a comment claiming that Palin has more experience than Obama. Please explain.

Obama has served for twice as long in national office as Palin, and for a much larger state. Prior to this service, he was in the Illinois Senate for 8 years.

Palin has served for less than 2 years as governor of one of the smallest states in the country. Prior to this service, she was the mayor of a very small town.

Her speech was solid (better than McCain's introduction of her--which may become a problem for him). But did she come across as presidential? And is she qualified to be president if the 72-year-old McCain dies or loses his faculties?

Palin likely takes AK off the table; Obama may redirect money from this state--perhaps to MT, where he likes his chances. See:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/barack_mccains_margin_among_in.php

There is no reason to think that the first-term governor of AK--a small, distant, and eccentric state--will help McCain a great deal in any states other than AK. The recent M-D poll of FL found that she did not help McCain there. See:
http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0827/17312639.pdf

I wonder how long Obama's post-convention bounce will last? These chain of events (VP choice, GOP convention) have not happened before.

Let's praise Palin for all the accomplishments of Alaska that probably were due to the last governor like a budget surplus which Alaska typically always has (hello $1,500 annual residence rebate). I'll give her fighting corruption and taxing oil companies (Hmm seems very similar to an Obama policy frankly).

Palin does strengthen the base, I'll give that to McCain. Obviously, the question was whether to try to win more moderates or hope to energize the base. This pick doesn't get any more moderates on his side, but will it get more of the base to vote to offset that? Only time will tell.

Again....you guys can trash Alaska all you want. The fact is that she is a elected governor. You need to do better than trashing Alaska.
Of course the media will begin to say lame stuff like she might be a liability. The media, most of them anyway is i nthe bag for Obama and they need to help him out on this.

So far the rags on palin are:

1. No expereince...and loser issue if Obama tries to tackle it.
2. Alaska sucks.
3. Small towns suck.

Ok guys, I think you did your job, Palin is horrible.
McCain outplayed Obama today.

On a different note, McCain's strategy--announcing a surprise VP pick the day after the Dem convention--was excellent. This strategic move should step on Obama's bounce (8 points according to today's Gallup tracker), stopping it from growing any larger. Whether or not McCain gets his own bounce will depend on his convention. If Palin gives a great speech next week, and McCain gives a mediocre one....

Pawlenty would have been the better choice. He would have gotten MN and the base. I don't know if Hillary supporters are going to bite on this when Hillary supporters attacked Obama for experience.

It is in the details... read "executive" experience. Obama has ZERO.

But Palin in 2007 did visit Alaskan troops in Kuwait. Hmmm. McCain had to bully Obama to finally visit the Middle East.

Palin gives the West back to McCain. Westerners know who she is.

P.S. Alaska is NOT one of the smallest states in America. At over 656,425 square miles, Alaska is more than twice the size of Texas and is the LARGEST state.

Maybe you were talking about population. What does that matter in context of Obama? He has NEVER governed a town, county, or state.

KipTin-
Oh I get it. The McCain campaign never said Obama lacked experience. Well, thanks for spinning, sorry, explaining that.

You would have defended his choice if he had picked a KANGAROO, wouldn't you.

You guys are hilarious today! Keep going, I love it.

Hmm...Nobody said Alaska sucks. Nobody said small towns suck. Nobody even said Palin sucks. What I see is people saying that none of those things equates to the kind of experience that John McCain says Obama needs in order to be president.

Obama doesn't have to trash Palin. McCain, with this pick, has trashed her himself. It looks, simply, like a hail-mary play to try to get Hillary supporters. IMO, that play is likely to backfire badly.

I traveled to Mexico once and talked to a local. Hope that'll be on my resume when I become Vice Pres as Foreign Policy experience.

The west isn't going to fall in line behind this. At best McCain retains Alaska and possibly Montana because of gun rights. Noone has heard of this person, she's an unknown.

@KipTin:

"What does it matter in the context of Obama? He has NEVER governed a town, county or state."

Umm...neither has McCain.

Speaking of someone who has never governed a town, country, or state. Ladies and Gentleman, I give you John McCain. But he has spent many years in the Senate being on the wrong side of important issues like health care and alternative energy.

How does 1 1/2 years of "executive experience" as a governor trump Obama's 8 years in state senate and 4 years in the national senate? Palin if inaugurated would be the person with the least amount of public office experience to be president since George Washington. (I'm kidding though, but truly she'd be on the top 5 list).

Have we all been transported to the land of Oz? The left is slamming her on expereince, which is more than Obama's. Who's time i nthe senate is much less than two years since he's never there! She was elected mayor, but small towns don't count. She is elected governor, but Alaska is a small state, so it doesn't count.
You guys are desperate....apparantly small towns do cont sicne Obama is in Beaver right now.
She's a military mom with a son in active service....
This was a old fashioned politcal setup by McCain, he wants Obama and his minions to attack her on expereince, because it makes expereince a centerfront issue. Where Obama isn't even i nthe ball park with McCain....this is right out of the playbook...and Obama and all you supporters of his are falling right into it.
I suggest again, wait for the talking points. The expereince thing hurts Obama, not helps him.

Clearly the Palin pick has fired up Stillow! I guess that's what McCain was looking for.

Okay, Stillow. I give up. You're right. Fantastic VP pick. :)

"How does 1 1/2 years of "executive experience" as a governor trump Obama's 8 years in state senate and 4 years in the national senate? "

let's see .. the illinios senate is a part time, seasonal job ( 5 months a year, 3 days a week during those months). Obama never made a decision on that time.

4 years in the seante? .. during which time he
ran for president and did nothing else.

It is a lot worse than the question of Palin's lack of qualifications. This decision seriously brings into question McCain's judgement. That he believes that this person is qualified to be president shows that McCain's decision making skills are highly questionable. This was his first executive decision! WOW!

Fine I'll listen. What were Palin's accomplishments in the past 1 and 1/2 years that OVERWHELM Obama's experience since we aren't talking about number of years anymore but work on the ground. Your essay can't be more than 3 pages long lol.

"This is getting embarrassing. Alaska has one of the smallest populations of any state and it isn't clear that she was qualified to be governor of Alaska.:

gee, are you all the ones who defended the other small A state..arkansas.. .CLinton...remember?

keep talking Obama fans.. you're destiny is in revealing what you actually believe.
.. that obama is inexperienced..

I think the history mostly went this way:

Hillary ---attack experience---> Obama
McCain ---attack experience---> Obama
McCain ---picks Palin----
Obama ---You were talking about my experience?----> McCain

The argument is a double edged sword. Either Palin and Obama have enough experience, or they don't. They are both new on the scene and if you are going to attack Obama on experience then everyone deserves to attack Palin's experience and McCain's lack of judgment.

I admit, I am taking satisfaction in watching you guys grasp for straws. She energizes the party. The GOp has the stigma of being for rich old white guys, McCain being true to his history brings in a fresh, young face. The expereince thing is a total loser for Obama to attack, I hope he does, but he isn't stupid, so he won't. In 1984 the lady had no chance to win agaisnt Reagan. This will be the first time in history,a woman will be on the ticket of a team that actually can win. You lefties thought you had a monopoly on these types of thing. She is young, has a good american story to tell, a military mom....its a solid pick. She is going to aggrivate the left to no end...she's conservative so she appeals to the base....she can present conservatives to younger people and women......Obama wanted Romney, I assure you....based on all your lackluster comments about expereince, the size of Alaska, you totally have no actaul argument against at this time. That will change of course when the points come out on her, but McCain did what he planned to do, steal the thunder, generate discussion.
Keep grasping lefties.....keep grasping...

KipTin:

Commenters who are talking about the small size of AK are indeed talking about its population (it has only 3 EVs--and EVs do "matter").

As for Palin helping McCain in the West, it's possible. However, as someone who lives in the West, I can tell you that her name-recognition is not high here. Nor is AK representative of western states.

Finally, posts above have established that Obama has more experience than Palin. People can continue to write that she has more experience; but saying something doesn't make it so.

Obviously, McCain still has the most experience--he's 72! The reason McCain's VP pick is surprising is that it undercuts McCain's argument that Obama does not have enough experience. Clearly, McCain believes that Palin does have enough experience to be president--he has chosen her to be only a heartbeat away from the presidency. If she has enough experience, then Obama does too.

Tybo-
I wasn't trashing Alaska. Actually I love Alaska. But, from what I have read so far Palin isn't qualified to sit on a school board, much less be a governor. That was my point. She doesn't believe in science. That alone should disqualify her.

Keep dreaming neocons keep dreaming. It's hard to deal with hypocrisy but as a party that has touted family values and undergone over a dozen domestic related scandals in the past two years I'm sure you're used to it.

The polls will tell the reaction. I await next week with glee even if it in fact does bounce McCain.

Just an fyi on the population of Alaska, Biden is from Delaware which is "barely" bigger in population than Alaska, like less than 100,000 I think. Should we slam Biden for being in such a small state too?

VERY GOOD point... Stillow.

@zotz

FINALLY, much better.....that is what I was waiting for, the liberal nonsense attacks, she doesn't beleive in science.....now you're starting to get it....next I want to hear she brings down women, opposes choice, and is just a gun carrying animal killing right wing neo con.............

Biden helps Obama in PA, which has 21 EVs (and where Biden is campaigning today).

Well I think when we recognize that Biden has experience you can bring to the Bank as a Senior Senator that its something you want. You couldn't bring Palin to Money Tree without 3 forms of ID. Biden reflects many of the values of the Northeast. To say anything that Palin reflects values of anything other than Alaska (a state proud of its independent natured people) is stretching it like her resume.

Hey... zotz... Alaskans give Palin 80% postive rating. (AND why are you trying to inject religion into the mix?)

Hey... faithopelove... Read/listen very carefully... McCain is not using the "experience" argument. McCain is using the "judgement" argument because Obama admitted he did not have as much experience but had better judgement (Obama's same argument against Hillary). Get it?

McCain's base is energized. That is what he needed. And if Obamanation keeps bashing Palin with misogynistic comments (on all the blogs) then many more women will come to Palin's defense because they already witnessed Obamanation doing the same to Hillary.

Tybo-
Since you missed my 1:30 post this is what I said,

"I just read that she believes that Creationism should be taught in public schools. After eight years of having an anti-science administration now we hear that it going to be MORE OF THE SAME. McCain chose a right wing nut to be one heartbeat away from the presidentcy! That's great!"

By the way federal law prohibits the teaching of Creationism as a science.

I guess you guys are having an off day. Maybe because its a long weekend. I'm a righty, no question, but I expected real attacks against plain. Expereince, Alaska being small, these are weak and you all know it. Maybe on Tuesday when we all get back you wil lbe refreshed and have some real stuff. I want the liberal attack machine to slam her huge....so I can watch it all backfire. Tell her she is a war monger and her son being in active duty is a dog and pony show. I mean, I want the real good stuff from you guys.

I watched Joe Biden last year. I watched him on CSpan when he was the chair of FR and when Lugar was the chair. He isn't all that hes advertised to be. I found him seriously lacking. He can be brilliant at times but he is short on substance. Anyway thats my take on him. His claim to fame of breaking Iraq into three countries was a hair brained scheme. He seems to be susceptible to that kind of sexed up stuff.

There has been some discussion about Palin shoring up McCain's base. Yet McCain did not need help in this area. The reason pre-convention polls were close was that McCain had secured his base (getting about 9 out of 10 Republicans) and Obama had not (getting only about 8 out of 10 Democrats). One specific example: a recent CO poll showed McCain getting 96% of the Republican vote.

Palin may actually hurt McCain with his base due to the sad reality of sexism. A Gallup poll found 12% of Americans unwilling to vote for a woman. 18% of conservatives were unwilling to vote for a woman. Many conservative evangelicals do not believe that women should have authority over men. See:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/26611/Some-Americans-Reluctant-Vote-Mormon-72YearOld-Presidential-Candidates.aspx

"Well I think when we recognize that Biden has experience you can bring to the Bank as a Senior Senator that its something you want"

don't you mean Master Card, Bankrupcty "reform" and voting for Patriot Act 2...
all of which Biden supports.

Keep waiting for the backfire while ignoring the shot and you'll sure win this election. This is an easy scenario for Obama to have all the great women in the democratic party and Biden deal with. If its about powerful women, the democrats win the party. Elizabeth Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, and Snowe won't be able to keep up with Hillary, Pelosi, McCaskill, and Seblius on the attack.

@zotz

Your getting better with the anti science thing. I know the party of tolerance, choice and inclusion only wants to teach one side of modern day theory on "creation". Give me some more, you know she is a hunter too right? Does that help you, I need an attack on the 2nd ammendment.