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Quinnipiac: CO, MI, MN, WI (10-8/12)

Topics: PHome

Quinnipiac University/ Washington Post / Wall Street Journal
Two new surveys in each state, conducted 10/3-7/2008 and 10/8-12 2008
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
(Washington Post story, Wall Street Journal article, Quinnipiac release)

Colorado
10/8-12 (1,088 LV, +/-3): Obama 52, McCain 43
10/3-7 (997 LV, +/-3.1): Obama 52, McCain 43

Michigan
10/8-12 (1,043 LV, +/-3): Obama 54, McCain 38
10/3-7 (1,122 LV, +/-2.9): Obama 55, McCain 37

Minnesota
10/8-12 (1,019 LV, +/-3.1): Obama 51, McCain 40
10/3-7 (1,076 LV, +/-3): Obama 51, McCain 43

Wisconsin
10/8-12 (1,201 LV, +/-2.8): Obama 54, McCain 37
10/3-7 (1,081 LV, +/-3): Obama 51, McCain 43

 

Comments
CaptainPatent:

And these are the LIGHT blue states!

McCain's climb may have gone from uphill to vertical.

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Schill:

Barack Obama has erased traditional Republican advantages in four key bellwether counties that President George W. Bush won in 2000 and 2004, according to a new Politico/InsiderAdvantage survey. Each county is critical to the outcome in the battleground state where it is located.

In Reno, Nevada's Washoe County, Obama leads McCain by a 46-45 percent margin, with six percent undecided. Obama posts a wider 50-44 percent lead with five percent undecided in Raleigh, North Carolina's Wake County, and another 6-point lead in Hillsborough County, Fla., where Tampa is located. There, he edges McCain 47-41 percent, with 11 percent undecided.

Among the four counties tested, McCain leads in only one: Jefferson County, Colo., a populous Denver suburb. McCain is ahead there by a margin of 45-43 percent, with eight percent undecided.

At first glance, these Politico/InsiderAdvantage numbers might not look so troubling for McCain, who trailed Obama by 10 points in an ABC/Washington Post national survey, released Monday.

But these four counties are crucial battlegrounds in four of the most competitive states in the presidential race. In recent years, the Republican path to the White House has run through these areas

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mysticlaker:

I see no way for McCain to win anymore...None. If someone does, please let me know.

Kerry states + NW, Iowa, Colorado.

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BarackO'Clinton:

Race tightening in Michigan!!!

Obama in trouble!!!

Democrats better be worried -- McCain SURGE!!

fail....

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JFactor:

Again huge news for the Obama campaign. It was known that Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin were going blue but these results pretty much put that beyond any doubt.

And what comes to Colorado, simply stunning news for Obama. Three weeks to go and McCain is down well over five points, maybe even ten in Colorado. The odds of McCain winning the state are pretty much zero at this point.
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Schill:

Quinnipac has the credit to warn early of last week poll's avalanche when MCcain claimed its polls were laughable, I guess from McCain's speech yesterday he is not laughing now.

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Shannon,Dallas,Texas:

I loved the Mary Poppins reference:

"Sen. Obama's leads in these four battleground states are as large as they have been the entire campaign. Those margins may be insurmountable barring a reversal that has never been seen before in the modern era in which polling monitors public opinion throughout the campaign," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.


"The only possible bright spot for Sen. McCain - and you would need Mary Poppins to find it in these numbers - is that he is holding roughly the same portion of the Republican vote. But McCain's support among independent voters, a group he says are key to winning the White House, has collapsed," Brown added.

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jonny87:

anyone live in the 'battleground' kerry states? still seeing as many mccain ads in WI, MN, MI, PA,others...

see mccains laying out quite a few new proposals, no way will he be able to remember all that for tomorrow.

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GrampsMcCain:

As Roscoe P Coletrain would say on the Dukes of Hazzard "Good News, Good News!"

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GrampsMcCain:

Well, we didn't see Ras's numbers leaked on Drudge today, so I am guessing McCain hasn't closed anymore there, my prediction for Ras today O 51 M 45.

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mysticlaker:

I checked that too gramps...these folks are so predictable.

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jonny87:

me too gramps. anyone noticed how rcp have snuck on the dem corps poll without using it???

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mysticlaker:

Jonny...RCP says it won't use "partisan" polls anymore. It's really a bunch of crap - they should do what pollster and 538 does and just use everything. Put the stuff in a spreadsheet and use what you think is valuable...It still pisses me off, but at least I have accurate calculations. Defining who is partisan or not is impossible.

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muckinello:

Is Quinnipiac record historically accurate or are they "leaning"? In any event, the numbers are staggering!

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jonny87:

i thought they said that so didnt include a dem corps, then last week when the dem corps gap was only 3 points they err waivered on the 'partisan' policy

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carl29:

Looks like the debate didn't make that much of a difference. I think that in fact preferences are hardening.

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dominoid:

LOL at Roscoe P Coletrain reference!

RCP just turned Colorado Blue

Without Toss Ups
Obama - 313
McCain - 158

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gypsyl:

I live in the Twin Cities congressional district "served" (and I use the term loosely) by Michelle Bachman, who bears a striking resemblance to Palin.

As opposed to previous elections, I don't see ANY McCain signs. Nada. Nothing for Norm Coleman either. In a predominantly white conservative suburb, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to read THAT lack of writing on the wall.

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Louis:

Muckinello:
According to 538 Quinnipac was above the average in accuracy for the Primaries.

Nothing is over until it over but it looks like McCain will continue to be a senator after the election.

Looking at the underlying numbers in Rasmussens state polls. Florida looks very good, Virginia and suprisingly Missouri look winnable.
Ohio and North Carolina might be a little tougher but at this point even if Obama loses both he still wins big.

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johncoz:

@muckinello:
"Is Quinnipiac record historically accurate or are they "leaning"?"

Quinnipiac sits in the top third for polling accuracy according to 538.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/pollster%20ratings


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Kile Thomson:

RCP is a joke

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BOOMFAIL:

Obama's 17 point lead in WI is what I have been feeling for some time here. He won by that same margin in the primaries against Clinton in Wisconsin. Still seeing the ads from both parties, but probably 3 to 1 heavy towards Obama.

Obviously their internals have been showing this for somoe time, as I don't believe Obama has been in Wisconsin for about 1 or 2 weeks, and then it was in RED parts of the state. In 2004, it seemed like Kerry was here several times a week! (And then it was mostly to Milwaukee and Madison markets.) McShame coming here again last weekend was a big scratch on the head, but he can waste as much time as he wants here, because he doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell to pull off WI!

Landslide Baby Landslide!

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MasterFramer:

Can we all say "Mandate"?

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WhereisMitt:

@carl29

Included in the Quinnipiac survey result is the fact that nearly 90% of respondents have made up their minds. So it looks like the overwhelming majority are sticking with their decision.

However, do you think that there are even enough people left who could change their minds to flip OH and FL to McCain?

Or is it that they might just make the final margin slightly tighter than what the polls are suggesting? I'm also assuming that this week's debate doesn't make people more uncertain about their decision.

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thomas/germany:


At which time Obama will declared as the winner in the election night by CNN, Fox News etc., when he reached the magic 270 or when he leads the nationwide popular vote with 53, 54 or 55 % and it is clear that Obama has won the election?

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Kile Thomson:

@ thomas/germany

when Obama gets 270 they will call the race

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nathan:

@Schill

I live in Jefferson County, Colo.

Jefferson will go Obama.

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carl29:

WhereisMitt,

I don't know if there are enough people left. I really don't. If you notice, for example, the majority of tracking polls show the same: STABILITY. According to people who know, stability means that preferences are hardening. I think that at this point is more about McCain not only bringing the totality undecided voters to his fold but peeling away votes from Obama as well. Is 3 weeks enough time? I don't know, especially because early/absentee voting is underway in a few states. I see how things are and can't really see a way for McCain to change all that in 3 weeks, although I am one who thinks that everything in possible. Maybe things can get a little tighter at a national level, but it takes a little while for it to trickle down to battleground states. We'll see guys :-)

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BarackO'Clinton:

I live in NE Minneapolis (served by Muslim congressman Keith Ellison..."off with his head!") and there are Obama signs everywhere. There are one or two McCain signs but it's overwhelmingly Obama.

One right wing guy on our street has a yellow ribbon tied around his tree, with all kinds of "support the troops" and "war on terror" sign in his windows. He has all kinds of signs for local GOP politicians and a big Norm Coleman sign - but nothing for McCain/Palin.

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pbcrunch:

Amazing... wherever Palin goes to campaign, the Obama leads get bigger... who woulda thunk?

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wotan:

What I think has happened: 1)the economic situation is too grave for voters to respond to smear campaigns; 2)the public got to know Obama before the smear started, so it is less credible; 3) for a smear to be effective it needs to come from an opponent with gravitas, and McCain let his bubble-headed running mate handle the smears early on, making them sound insincere and just plain silly.

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4LessYears:

RCP now has Obama at 313 in the electoral count after giving him Florida!

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couseydee:

McCain:
Please keep coming to Minnesota, we like to waste your campaign funds!

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Mike A.:

We still have to get out there and volunteer and vote! 3 weeks is still a lot of time. Don't let up Obama people! Remember NH!

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pbcrunch:

Any day McCain is in or spends money in WI/MN/PA/NH is officially a wasted day and/or dollar for him. His home over the next three weeks must switch daily between OH, FL, VA, CO, NV, NC, IN and MO.

He simply cannot afford to play offense in so many Kerry states that he doesn't have a chance of winning and comprise relatively expensive media markets -- Philly, Pittsburgh, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Boston, etc. -- while giving the attention those 8 Bush states (also with expensive media markets) need in order to squeak out a victory.

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Thatcher:

on Election night, the media will have several states in the "too early to call" category until the last of the lower-48 states closes their polls. Once that happens ... then the "too early to call" states will be called and the winner of the election will be announced.

If they try to make a call before then, the media will be seen as trying to suppress the vote on the west coast.

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JFactor:

The McCain campaign has probably conceded defeat in their minds already but keep a bold front. They continue to campaign in Kerry states that are never ever going to flip. They just don't want to admit that to the press and they keep campaigning like they still have a good chance. McCain is probably devastated right now that he's noticed that the Palin pick was a fiasco, he's lost his reputation as being honest and reputable and that he's going to lose. I kind of feel for the guy.
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couseydee:

And he is, and has been spending LOTS of money in the Twin Cities. For the past 3 months it's non-stop McCain TV. Maybe we're just getting tired of him.

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carl29:

This is a good article about McCain chances in PA:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/13/AR2008101302170.html?wpisrc=newsletter&wpisrc=newsletter&sid=ST2008101400852&s_pos=

Even Republicans are not "buying" McCain, and Sarah? Doesn't seem that she helps either :-)

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Tzal:

thomas/germany:

It is difficult to tell exactly what time they will call the election. As you know, a candidate needs 270 electoral college votes to win. Individual states report their results at different times throughout the night.

By 8:00 EST, states with a total of 275 worth of electoral college votes will have finished voting. So the networks will call it sometime after that. If the election turns out to be a landslide, they will call it very early.

Although voting may end in a particular state, it does not mean that that state will report its results right away. But if it is a blowout victory in that state, then that state will report quickly.

With that in mind, note that Ohio and Florida are both states that close before 8:00 est. If either Ohio or Florida report an Obama win quickly, expect the networks to call the election at that point. I hope that helps answer your question.

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DTM:

As others noted, the networks will not formally call the election for a candidate until the polls close in the lower 48.

However, hypothetically if they call two or more of states like FL, OH, VA, and NC for Obama, look for a lot of people talking about a "historic night" (or similar code phrases).

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punkkid:

@Schill:

Quinnipac has the credit to warn early of last week poll's avalanche when MCcain claimed its polls were laughable, I guess from McCain's speech yesterday he is not laughing now.

I agree Schill.

This is from MSNBC First Read Chuck Todd on these new Quinnipiac polls:

"Caveat: These polls seem a bit inflated compared with what the campaigns are showing internally."

First Read also dismissed the last Quinnipiac poll in Fl, OH and PA saying they were inflated. Every poll in PA since the last Quinnipiac poll in PA is now between 12 and 15 points.

When will these guys on TV stop being spinned by campaigns - probably when McCain pulls out of WI.


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tjacobits:

@johnny87

Watched football all day Sunday. Zero McCain ads in the Metro-Detroit Market. Obama was running 4 or 5 ads per game, all day. Obama is running an ad about his tax cut for middle class vs McCain tax cut for oil/wealthy.

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punkkid:

"Caveat: These polls seem a bit inflated compared with what the campaigns are showing internally."

And by the way, can the guys at First Read tell us what is a "bit inflated"? 1 point, 2 points ...6 points...

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Florida Voter:

Amazing numbers from these 4 states. With McCain/Palin campaigning in red states where GWB won by 10-20 points in 2004, this is a telling story that the lights are slowly dimming on the McCain campaign. Unless Obama has a huge snafu, I can't imagine not singing "Happy Days are Here Again", late on Nov. 4th or early Nov. 5th.

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RS:

CO is now dark blue. Yay! But that doesn't mean I am going to let up here - the only poll that really counts in Nov 4.

That being said, I really need a VA poll... One week ago, PPP had Obama up 8%, but Fox/Ras had the margin at 3% on Sunday (up 1% from the previous Sunday). Wait - polling on a Sunday?
Has anyone else noticed - other than Mason-Dixon and ARG, every poll since 9/25 has Obama at 50% or higher in VA?

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pbcrunch:

JFactor:

I do not feel for McCain. He made all of these decisions; he decided to pick Palin; he decided to suspend his campaign; he decided to run some of the worst ads; he decided to become an standard Republican rather than an actual maverick; he decided to follow Schmidt's advice.

His decisions, his losses. I do not feel for him.

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drdr:

Obama just started TV advertising in Minnesota last week. Until then there were many McCain TV ads, almost all negative. Obama is running with his health care ads. Michelle Obama visited Minnesota yesterday. These are signs that the Obama campaign still believes MN is competitive.

We do have some McCain yard signs near my neighborhood, but they are outside the $1M+ lake homes. The signs should say "Millionaires for McCain".

Also look at the Q poll in the context of other recent MN polls showing Obama +14, +18 as well as McCain +1. I think the best thing to do in this case is average the polls as pollster.com does. Current average for MN is Obama +5.4.

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wagthedog1001:

I don't see early results from either Ohio or Florida on election night. You may as well do all of your math leaving those two places out... I think the networks will. Neither place will declare a clear winner for days after the election. Too much crap goes on in both places.

I say it'll be Kerry States + IA + NM + CO (or VA). Then you can pop the campaign champagne, but

GET OUT THE VOTE FIRST!

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drdr:

Forgot to mention that Minneapolis paper reports today 2:1 increase in new voter registration in Democratic dominated precincts compared to Republican dominated precincts. MN does not register voters by party, but this suggests significant increase in Democratic voter registration in MN this year.

MN also has same-day voter registration on election day.

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couseydee:

I was worried in months past about Obama's Minnesota strategy (virtually ignoring it). But his campaign is clever. Minnesota has the longest streak in the nation for voting for Democratic presidents (although it's sometimes a close one).
I think Obama knew he could hold off for a bit on MN, let McCain spend his money, then start advertising late in the game to close the deal.

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couseydee:

I was worried in months past about Obama's Minnesota strategy (virtually ignoring it). But his campaign is clever. Minnesota has the longest streak in the nation for voting for Democratic presidents (although it's sometimes a close one).
I think Obama knew he could hold off for a bit on MN, let McCain spend his money, then start advertising and visiting late in the game to close the deal.

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carl29:

drdr,

Isn't MN already voting or receiving absentee ballots? I think that around that area people are already voting, IA and WI. I think that now the campaigns, at least the Obama campaign, are concentrated on bringing out their supporters, preparing the turnout.

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couseydee:

Minnesota has got early voting, but only if you're not going to be here on Nov. 4th (not sure how you prove that though).

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Basil:

Obama Tsunami!

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Dana Adini:

Gop backers are now hanging their hats on this obscure bradlet wilder effect which has happend twice in modern polling history. CNN mentioned yesterday but wrote it off.

If you get bored and some entertainment, www.davidwissing.com.

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lhtk:

Please: STOP the polling of MI and WI! Those states are DONE. Let's get more WV, GA, ND & MT polls.

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Nhoj:

im not buying those huge margins obama will win wisconsin and Minnesota but not by that much i dont think. wasn't quinnipiac the one that said that Hillary was going to win Wisconsin in the primary's?

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From an independent Obama supporter who is nervous. Obama has great momentum, but if McCain somehow holds FL and the remaining tossups, this would get dicey. No one should count this as over just yet. Living 80 miles from TX/NM border we see lots of WIDELY polarized views. The candidate that stays focused will prevail. Hoping for a blue map, but have seen enough elections turn at this point in campaigns to be wary.

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Scott in PacNW:

@mysticlaker said:

"I see no way for McCain to win anymore...None. If someone does, please let me know."

Cheating & vote suppression. Except that it can't happen here.

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MileHigh:

@wag-

Greetings from Colorful Colorado! They'll call it early election night. FL and OH aren't even needed for the count. MO, VA, NV will go Obama. You might even see NC, ND, IN, or WV in the win column. But, I agree that we need to VOTE! Winning isn't good enough, we need a landslide. Anything less is unacceptable. We need to embarrass and demoralize these clowns. All the rats are leaving the ship. Republicans are standing in line to distance themselves from Rear Admiral Poopstain and Scared Failin. I wonder if Poopy can defend his Senate seat next time. I think wingnuts will blame him for an Obama Presidency; they might burn him at the stake if this is a landslide and the dems get a 60 seat Senate majority. Folks that were praising Caribou Barbie a month ago, will demonize the Pooper for making a stupid decision. I want McCain and Palin to be destroyed politically. I hope to see Palin doing reality TV in a couple of years. n Pure gold!

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bclintonk:

I live in Minnesota and I've already voted. You just go down to your county elections office and fill out an absentee ballot application, and vote on the spot---even if you're not registered. MN has instant registration so you can register and vote in one seamless stop. It's not quite "early voting"---you need a reason, but "out of precinct on election day" is good enough. It doesn't require that you be out of town, only out of your precinct, e.g., doing GOTV in another precinct. And frankly, they don't ask any questions; they want people to vote. So vote! It's fun, it's easy, and it sure feels good to fill in that little bubble for the next President of the United States, Barack Obama! And be sure to tell all your friends they can avoid the long lines on election day.

I think Obama's putting more resources into Minnesota now not because the campaign thinks the state is still in play, but they're shifting into their end-game, firing up the base as news coverage begins to shift to predictions of a sizable Obama win. No room for complacency. Also the Senate race is still very close, the Obama campaign has sucked up all the energy and volunteers, and support for Al Franken is soft due to the negative tone of the campaign. Franken's best shot is a free ride on Obama's coattails in a smashing turnout, and a newly elected President can always benefit from having a few members of Congress who know they owe their election to the President's popularity. A lot of Norm Coleman's support is falling away to Independent Party candidate Dean Barkley, though, so I think we're heading toward a Democratic Senate pick-up in MN. And possibly two Twin Cities suburban House seats as well.

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katocat:

Whats next Arizona goes blue?

We better do some polling there just to be sure.

: )

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Yellow Dog Democrat:

Wisconsin +17 three weeks before the election is huge. That was the only 2004 blue state that McCain was still seriously contending in (Pennsylvania is long gone now) McCain needs to hope he holds ALL the 2004 red states. He is on defense from now on in.

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faithhopelove:

EVIDENCE THAT CO WILL FLIP FOR OBAMA

1) 3 of the 4 most recent CO polls (all with large samples) show Obama ahead there by 9, 10, and 9 points, respectively.

2) Q's recent poll finds that Obama's support is firmer than McCain's--89% of Obama supporters have their "mind[s] made up," to just 85% for McCain.

3) 6 consecutive CO polls have found Obama ahead; McCain has not led in any of the last 8 CO polls; McCain has led in just 1 of the last 17 CO polls, with 1 tie; Obama has hit 50% or better in 10 of the last 17 polls, including 5 of the last 6.

4) A poll released today of the CO bellwether Jefferson County, won by Bush in 2004 by 5 points, shows McCain ahead there by just 2 points. Another poll released today (Suffolk) shows Obama up in the CO bellwether Alamosa County; from this poll's narrative: "The bellwether of Alamosa County showed Obama (45 percent) leading McCain (43 percent) with Barr and Nader each receiving 1 percent while 9 percent were undecided and 1 percent refused. In 2008, Suffolk University bellwethers were 95 percent accurate in predicting straight-up winners in both Democratic and Republican primaries, and when coupled with the sister statewide Suffolk polls of the respective states, were 100 percent accurate in predicting straight-up winners." Suffolk's fresh statewide poll of CO shows Obama up 4 points.

5) CO has been trending blue over the past 8 years--in 2000 Bush won CO by 9 points, in 2004 Bush won CO by 5 points, and in 2006 CO elected a Democratic governor by 15 points.

6) Obama has given more attention to CO than Kerry did in 2004, even holding his convention there.

7) Obama is outspending McCain on advertising in CO; see:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Spending_by_state.html

8) Obama's ground game in CO (think GOTV efforts) is stronger than McCain's; Obama has 44 field offices there, while McCain has just 12.

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Mark in LA:

The "A" states are not getting polled, with the exception of Alabama. I'd like to see that is happening in Arizona, Alaska, and Arkansas. When is the last time someone polled the Razorback state?
Palin and McCain may also be wearing thin in their respective home states.

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cinnamonape:

The shifts in Minnesota and Wisconsin actually make the earlier poll showing a slight Obama lead in North Dakota more credible. If the "Caribou Barbie" act is wearing thin in these two states, then the contrived accent may be having less effect in Fargo, too.

Essentially that ND poll (and I'd like to see a follow up there) was almost identical to some back in Spring and early Summer.

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TJIRISH34:

I think as Ed Rollin's has mentioned. Obama has passed the Presidential "threshold." Even people who dislike Obama are coming to terms he will be the next president. Witness those ugly McCain rally's Those were... Taking a quote from Rumsfeld, "deadenders." The group of hardliners in "meltdown mode." They will get over it. BTW I called Obama's office because being of middleclass. I like his proposal with regards to 401K/retirement money. Obama proposing let people take out 15% up to $10,000 out of their 401k/IRA with no penalty. Man people hurting right now and yea I know the retirement advisors frown on this stuff. With job insecurity a 401K loan to be paid off over years is not a great choice. If you lose job you take the penalty. But people could use this money. I know co-workers bitching about hurting and they {until recently} have money in 401K they need now. If millions did this it would add tax revenue to government in debt and people could pay off some personal debt. Even stimulate the economy a lil bit. Maybe increae their 401K deductions to offset the one time withdraw with no penalty. It cost the government nothing. Times are tough and I think it is a reaonable idea for people in a tough spot.

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CTPonix4BHObama:

I'm from Connecticut, where Quinnipiac University is, and they're polling division has a very respected local reputation in the North East. They are very professional pollsters that dont allow outside influence in anyway, I worked for them shortly.

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The polls look good, but we still need to get to the polls and vote for Obama and Biden. We can't let up. It is the 4th quarter with 2 minutes left to play. Get to the polls and lets
take the football in for the winning score. We need to finish strong!

VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA AND LETS GET A DEMOCRAT WIN IN NOVEMBER!

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couseydee:

And I will be door-knocking every weekend until then, Dan.

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mrut:

@couseydee

I will be door-knocking every weekend, too, in NH. My parents live in VA, and they have volunteered to help out in the remaining weeks (76 and 81 years old) for Obama.

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mrut:

Just an anecdote from VA. My mother says she was stopped by 3 different people in the street on the last day to register and asked if she had registered to vote. She says the Obama organization is very visible in Charlottesville.

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couseydee:

That's great news, mrut. You should be proud of your parents! ;-p

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