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US: Elena Kagan (USA Today/Gallup 5/24-25)

Topics: National , poll

USA today / Gallup
5/24-25/10; 1,049 adults, 4% margin of error
mode: Live telephone interviews
(Gallup release)

National

As you may know, Solicitor General Elena Kagan is the person nominated to serve on the Supreme Court. Would you like to see the Senate vote in favor of Kagan serving on the Supreme Court, or not?
46% Yes, vote in favor, 32% no, not

 

Comments
Aaron_in_TX:

Not sure why Kagan keeps getting polled. The public seems to accept her for the most part.

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Field Marshal:

I agree. Which shows how much more rational conservatives are in this regard than liberals who were up in arms over the nomination of Meirs because of a lack of judicial experience. The mainstream media had Meirs in the first few minutes of their shows for weeks. Kagan on the other hand, gets a complete pass.

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williame123:

@Field Marshal

"Which shows how much more rational conservatives are in this regard than liberals who were up in arms over the nomination of Meirs because of a lack of judicial experience."

Ummm....a great many CONSERVATIVES strongly opposed Miers too and it wasn't just about judicial experience. Chief Justice Renhquist jad no judicial experience when he was nominated and yet conservatives were pleased with him. Experience is only one factor when assessing aptitude for a job.

In the legal world, there is a big difference between SMU and Stanford/Harvard/Yale/Chicago/UMich/UVA/UT-Austin etc, especially in an era of mass education.

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Field Marshal:

In the legal world, there is a big difference between SMU and Stanford/Harvard/Yale/Chicago/UMich/UVA/UT-Austin etc, especially in an era of mass education.

Only to a liberal. To people out in the real world, and education is only a tool unto an end. Education helps aid in real world-private experiences. To conservatives, an education is a way of interpreting the real world experiences that gain you true expertise. To a liberal, education is a way of telling you what you SHOULD think.

A school is only as good as what you do there. If Meirs was a straight A student which has been reported, than she is just as well qualified as Kagan.

Libies simply can't admit the hypocrisy.

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Field Marshal:

Just to clarify, i think Kagan is highly qualified just as i thought Meirs was.

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Aaron_in_TX:

I agree with William. The major problem that Miers had was that conservative senators turned against her because she did not impress them and she was too liberal for a lot of conservatives.

Enough democrats probably would have voted for her to get her confirmed.

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williame123:

@Field Marshal

"To people out in the real world, and education is only a tool unto an end."

And...? What does that have to do with the fact that in the "real world" a degree from Harvard Law is more sought after by employers, on average, than a degree from SMU?

"To conservatives, an education is a way of interpreting the real world experiences that gain you true expertise."

Ok. Sweet. What does that have to do with the fact that academic pedigree matters in the real world even if it is not the only that matters? Can you explain to me why so many Conservatives try get their kids into prestigious Colleges every year? Why do so many Conservative undergrads try to get into top Medical, Law and Business schools every year?

"A school is only as good as what you do there."

I agree. What is your point?

"If Meirs was a straight A student which has been reported, than she is just as well qualified as Kagan."

LOL. Yeah right. I guess this is the reason why, on average, straight A students from SMU Law have the same job opportunities as average students from Yale Law.

"Libies simply can't admit the hypocrisy."

Yep. It is because of Liberal hypocrisy that all 5 Conservatives on the Supreme Court are graduates of prestigious law schools, Haha. Facts are stuboorn things.


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Aaron_in_TX:

There aren't very many good law schools in Texas. There are 9 that I know of, and only University of Texas is ranked highly. Baylor, SMU, and University of Houston are decent and produce fine lawyers that are good for practicing in the state. The others are mostly only useful for regional practice.

It would take someone highly exceptional from Houston or SMU to equal the average Harvard, Yale, Stanford, or Columbia law graduate. I'm not sure how great Miers was. She was on the Texas Supreme Court but that's certainly not saying much given the quality of those jurists who are elected largely due to how ideological they are.

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Field Marshal:

And...? What does that have to do with the fact that in the "real world" a degree from Harvard Law is more sought after by employers, on average, than a degree from SMU?

It means that to liberals, the Harvard degree is enough for anything while most on the right put more credence into real world experience on top of education.

As for the rest of your post, its all hyperbole and taken my words out of context. I mean, take this dumb statement for example :"I agree. What is your point?". My point is its not the school but what you do there which i thought i stated fairly clearly.

The fact that liberals think only people from harvard or yale belong on the court portends a lot of their elitist and skewed view of reality.


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Aaron_in_TX:

"My point is its not the school but what you do there which i thought i stated fairly clearly."

More competitive schools help. I was summa cum laude at my state school but my competition was a lot less intense. At an Ivy I probably would have been average or below average. That's why valedictorians go to the top schools and the others go to state ones.

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