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US: Health Care (Gallup 9/11-13)


Gallup
9/11-13/09; 1,030 adults, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Gallup release)

National

Which comes closer to your view about health insurance - the government should be primarily responsible for making sure all Americans have health insurance, or Americans themselves should be primarily responsible for making sure they and their families have health insurance
37% Government Responsible, 61% Americans Responsible

 

Comments
Stillow:

Wow, not good for you liberals. By 24 points people favor self reliance and not g'ment reliance....

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openid.aol.com/Rahmsputin:

Stillow, I suppose you can spin this vague question for solace, but according to KFF's recent poll, 59% support a public option, 67% support an employer mandate, 82% support expanding Medicaid and SCHIP, 74% support expanding Medicare to people aged 55 and over, and 68% support an individual mandate with subsidies for low income families.

So what should we take from Gallup's vague question?

Certainly, if you present an abstract government vs. individual dichotomy that refers to no specifics, more people side with the "individual" side, but when presented with concrete policy proposals, Americans overwhelmingly support government playing a role.

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Stillow:

Heheheh, if you beleive that poll showing 59 percent want a public option then I have several things I would like to sell you, a pink unicorn, oil rights on Neptune and a bag of magical beans.

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Xenobion:

Not one to traditionally nit-pick question structure but this one smells and doesn't really determine anything since its a closeness of views question.

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openid.aol.com/Rahmsputin:

Of course Stillow, any poll that doesn't agree with your predetermined worldview is obviously wrong. It must be nice to have such an asinine cognitive filter to protect you from the real world.

FWIW, I'm not challenging the validity of this poll (as you are with the KFF poll). I think Americans do tend to side with the "individual" if you present the two as an abstract opposition. However, in real life, when it comes to concrete policy proposals, Americans like a mix of individual choice and government involvement, which is exactly what the public option is.

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Stillow:

I love how you guys create these little fantasies and then project them as reality. I don't challenge all polls when they show numbers I don't like. The only polls I dismiss 100 percent are CBS polls because they are a junk company.

But again, if you seriously think 59 percent want a public option then where can I deliver this pink unicorn too?

For every poll you have showing support for a public option I have 3 that show otehrwise.

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openid.aol.com/Rahmsputin:

No Stillow, you don't. Kaiser, EBRI, Consumers' Union, Lake Research, Wall Street Journal, CBS/NYTimes, and Quinnipiac have all found majority support for the public option nationally. Most have found support in the 55-70% range. Though they haven't conducted national polls on the question, R2K and PPP have all found majority support for the proposal in relatively conservative districts.

Discounting R2K and PPP's regional polls, that means you have to find 24 polls showing specific national opposition to the public option.

Aside from the sample that Rasmussen currently considers likely voters for 2010, poll after poll shows majority support for the proposal.

By the way, here's the complete article for this Gallup poll: http://www.gallup.com/poll/123332/Many-U.S.-See-Health-Insurance-Personal-Responsibility.aspx

They find that the results change drastically as they alter the poll question. For example, they find that 54% also said the federal government has a responsibility to ensure all Americans have health insurance.

This is the problem with vague questions that don't offer any specifics. They don't really tell you anything.

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openid.aol.com/Rahmsputin:

Also, the recent Economist/YouGov poll shows plurality support for the public option, though it has majority support among Democrats and Independents.

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LordMike:

I'm surprised that Americans are so supportive of an individual mandate, but that's good news for the congressional health care plans...

The question is quite leading. Gallup has been doing that lately. I'm starting to question their independence.

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Wong:

Any serious poll reader knows the public option enjoys considerable majority support. Only the ideologically challenged cling to the notion that all the polls listed by Rahmsputin are nonsense.

It doesn't do you argument justice to point to contradictory evidence and then try to convince us it doesn't exist.

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Stephen_W:

Rahmsputin nailed it on the head, Americans tend to side toward individual responsibility over government solutions when asked what they prefer. That doesn't mean the government has no role in society, and viewing it as a black and white issue is both simplistic and uneducated. Stillow's posts are so pathetically predictable. Little to no logic, and an even shallower understanding of the meaning of polls. I get it, you hate taxes, entitlements and pretty much any government run by Democrats. How that has anything to do with analyzing polls is beyond me.

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Stillow:

If any of you have kids you will understand this. You know when you tell them to clean their room? And they come and tell you its done...and you go look and its all shoved under the bed and in the closet?

That is what it feels like talking tosome of you people who are blinded by talking points and your own misguided interpratations.


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Stillow:

@Stephen_W:

From your postings here, there is much that is beyond you.

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bigreed:

Stillow: Produce the 24 polls showing less than 45% (MOE) for the public option or admit you're wrong. This is pretty cut and dry, even for a proven hack like yourself.

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Xenobion:

I'm not going to go to every 50%+ favor health care poll and say, "SEE! American's support healthcare!" I just call smelly questions when I see them.

This question asks, "Do you lean more towards the government providing Cake for everyone or the individual providing Cake for their family?" There are no conclusions to draw from this poll as this healthcare debate isn't about individual choice vs. government but means of providing coverage and not having any at all. I'm sure most American's probably wish they could individually provide their families with affordable healthcare but its obviously not happening. This polling agency might as well ask, "Do your views lean more toward Government run healthcare or unicorn run healthcare."

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Cyril Washbrook:

This poll shows the importance of the wording of the question. An explicit poll on the public option will usually result in a clear majority of Americans supporting it, anywhere between 50-65% depending on the wording.

But a question like this is emotive - it comes directly from this sort of appeal made by politicians all of the time: "America's strength lies in its people". The question activates the regions of people's minds in a way that suggests that either we have this big bad government forcing people to do stuff, or we have the people deciding their own futures. It's an emotive question and thus has limited value in terms of actually testing public opinion.

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Aaron_in_TX:

This is a pretty vaguely worded question. If anything, Stillow shouldn't take much solace in it. I'll bet if you asked this question 20 years ago or even 10, "government responsibility" would be somewhere in the teens or 20's. 37% is much higher than the 22% of the country that identifies as "liberal," indicating a shift in societal opinion on government involvement.

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