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US: Health Care, Immigration (Pew/National Journal 7/8-11)

Topics: National , poll

Pew Research Center / National Journal
7/8-11/10; 1,001 adults, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Pew release, National Journal release)

National

Do you approve or disapprove of the health care legislation passed by Barack Obama and Congress in March?
35% Approve, 47% Disapprove (chart)

As you may know, this week the U.S. Justice department filed a legal challenge to the state of Arizona's recent immigration law. From what you know, do you approve or disapprove of the Justice department's decision to challenge the Arizona law?
36% Approve, 45% Disapprove

How well is the U.S. military effort in Afghanistan going?
9% Very well, 40% Fairly well, 31% Not too well, 9% Not at all well

Do you think the U.S. and NATO should keep military troops in Afghanistan until the situation has stabilized, or do you think the U.S. and NATO should remove their troops as soon as possible?
47% Keep troops, 425 Remove troops

Party ID
30% Democrat, 24% Republican, 36% independent (chart)

 

Comments
Sean Murphy:

So much for Obamacare becoming more popular after it was passed.

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Farleftandproud:

Again Republicans and Independents were overpolled. It doesn't matter to me what people think now of health care reform anyhow. It was historic, people don' understand what it entails because it was just signed. When the no denial for pre-existing conditions and other aspects of the reform take affect, the opinion will change.

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Farleftandproud:

This poll is pretty represenative of America. A majority favor keeping troops in Afghanistan and wasting money there, but obviously think government intervening and spending in the health care sector isn't worth it. It just doesn't make sense, but that is what I can expect from the average American voters.

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Sean Murphy:

Farleft- Is your excuse for every poll that you don't like "Republicans and Independents were overpolled" How is 24% Republican overpolling?

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Paleo:

It's no surprise it's not popular because it wasn't progressive reform. No public option, or other component, just reinforcement of the for-profit health insurance system we already have. The plan proposed by Bush I in the early 1990s was more progressive than what we got. It wasn't historic, it was a sellout.

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vincent106:

When the president is a do nothing, present voting, feckless leader its no wonder that obamacare was a big sellout written by the special interests who bought out the democrats in congress.

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Paleo:

When Harry Reid calls you a wuss, you know you're being too . . . risk adverse.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/07/reid-i-wish-president-obama-were-more-confrontational-with-gop.html

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Freddy:

Again Republicans and Independents were overpolled.

Posted on July 13, 2010 11:02 AM
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Farleftandproud:
This poll is pretty represenative of America.

Posted on July 13, 2010 11:04 AM

Far Left, the jists of your multiple posts are usually representative & generally informed reading. But what happened in those 2 minutes to change your mind?

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Pluoticus:

Oh God. Here we go with the "not liberal enough" arguement. Do the people that say that kind of stuff realize that if the bill were made even MORE liberal that you would start to peel off some of the conservative leaning moderates into the no column, therefore offsetting any gains from the liberal column?

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Field Marshal:

I think the approval for ObamaCare falls in the coming years as people experience the same thing they are in Mass. Yeah, its great that a small percentage of the population with pre-existing conditions are now covered but a far larger percentage of the voters who see their premiums jump and access to doctors decrease will become increasingly hostile to it and the Dems.

You know you're in trouble when Dingy Harry is calling you a wuss.

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dpearl:

In reading about public opinion on the health care legislation I try to pay careful attention to the question wording. This poll asked "Do you approve or disapprove of the health care legislation passed by Barack Obama and Congress in March?" while the previous poll by this group asked "Do you approve or disapprove of the health care legislation passed last month?"
I suspect that mentioning Congress will always knock things down by a point or two (note the wording that Kaiser uses avoids that and gets the highest favorables of any survey on this topic).

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jack:

Paleo, Reid called Obama a "strong leader." He said that on A FEW OCCASSIONS, Obama could have been more decisive. But a few is a few.

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melvin:

Is America giving the GOP one last shot? The Demographics in 10 years is going to be so bad for the GOP unless they can attract over 70% of the non-hispanic vote,they is doomed.Why is the media is not talking about this? When the States draw their districts for 2012 its not going to be pretty for the GOP,the AP is reporting the GOP is going to lose over 30 Republican districts by 2014,its going to be very tough for the GOP after 2014.I predict by 2020 the Democrats is going to have over 300 seats in the House.

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melvin:

Even though our President realizes the Republicans primary goal is to destroy him, regardless of consequences, he is still trying to get them to do what they are elected to do and that is represent our Country and us.
Unfortunately, they will not comply and will continue to try and lead our Country to further destruction. Their undying love and support for Wall St over our survival, irresponsible, hypocritical, destructive actions have made them a disgrace to our political system and our Country.

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Sean Murphy:

Melvin, when states re-draw their distrcits for 2012 there will be atleast 33 GOP governors compared to 16 Democratic governors.

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Farleftandproud:

Melvin don't give up fighting the good fight. A lot of people are confused about what leaders and ideologies to trust, but we know the truth, and we have to continue supporting ideas that are progressive and support the centrists too. I would include many Republicans in the centrist category too, but we have to save the country from this far right extremism.

David Vitter, who has been a disgrace to the cause of "Moral values has signed on to support a birther bill and investigation of Obama's place of birth.

I think they should go ahead. In the end they are going to look like moron, and fools who simply had to turn to infantile tactics because that was their only way of dealing with the fact Obama won the election.

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Farleftandproud:

Sean Murphy:
Melvin, when states re-draw their distrcits for 2012 there will be atleast 33 GOP governors compared to 16 Democratic governors.

Isn't there such a thing as reading the census and trying to create districts according to population, not political ideology. It is like you are saying that if there are this many GOP governors, it gives them the right to almost in a fraudulent way twist the districts around to support their interests.

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nick283:

yes, melvin, every person who is not white will never vote for the GOP. I'm sure this is news to the Vietnamese community in Orange County, the Cuban community in Miami. But yes i suppose we should accept your brilliant political analysis and agree that "they is doomed"

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dpearl:

FL&P: while many states hire non-partisan consultants to advise on drawing their districts and actually take their advice - alas, Gerrymandering is still very much with us in many others. Control of the state legislatures and Governorships in key states will affect several dozen races down the road.

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nick283:

FarLeft, kind of agree with you about Vitter. I don't really think prostitution should be illegal, but I hate how there are so many politicians these days who cheat on their wives. I'm what you would refer to as a right wing republican, but i don't think i would vote for vitter (not that I'd vote for Melancon).

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Poll Troll:

Just ignore melvin and FLAP, medicaid cuts forced them to change their meds.

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Aaron_in_TX:

"Control of the state legislatures and Governorships in key states will affect several dozen races down the road."

I don't worry about it that much. A lot of times it backfires on whoever tries it. The redistricting republicans attempted in PA is the best example, but IN it backfired also. The demographic patterns don't always turn out the way gerrymanderers want it.

In Texas the court struck it down and they had to re-draw, resulting in a new democratic seat and a stronger base for the democrats they really wanted out. They've been trying to gerrymander Lloyd Doggett out for years unsuccessfully. Democrats still lost net 4 but realistically those seats in the rural western & eastern part of the state would have gone republican anyway - those counties were already trending more republican. Those guys were old-school southern democrat holdovers from a bygone era. It's likely at least 2-3 would have still lost in 2004 even without the gerrymander.

Texas is likely to get 3 new seats. At least one of those will have to be in the border region which will be a democratic seat. Another should probably be in the region south and west of Houston which would be a swing district. Another should probably north of DFW which would be a republican district, but the democratic share of the vote has been rising in those counties in the last 10 years so I wouldn't count my chickens there forever.

More important is the districting in states set to LOSE seats - it's easier to redistrict someone out than it is to create a new seat permanently democratic or republican.

Personally I think Iowa has the best policy when it comes to redistricting, particularly because contiuguousness and city/county unity are high priorities. That dilutes most gerrymandering efforts.

http://archive.fairvote.org/redistricting/reports/remanual/ia.htm

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Paleo:

"He said that on A FEW OCCASSIONS, Obama could have been more decisive. But a few is a few."

If he says few in public, then what does he say in private.

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nick283:

Look, everybody who has a chance to gerrymanders. Certain voting rights act provisions even require racial gerrymandering, hence some bizarre districts in Florida and North Carolina. Its not even always as much partisanas it is for incumbents to protect themselves. For example, I am sure Peter King would be happy to swap some of his liberal districts for more conservative ones in McCarthy's district and she probably wouldnt complain either. I agree that county boundaries etc should come into play heavily, but then people might complain for example that the african american community or jewish community in miami dade and broward county werent being well represented because they were being divided up into majority cuban districts (just an example, not sure about the exact breakdown of the districts or counties). The point is that there is no way to please everybody.

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