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US: National Survey (Fox 8/11-12)


Fox News / Opinion Dynamics
8/11-12/09; 900 registered voters, 3% margin of error
353 Democrats, 5% margin of error
312 Republicans, 6% margin of error
199 independents, 7% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews
(Fox story, toplines)

National

Obama Job Approval
53% Approve, 40% Disapprove (chart)
Dems: 87 / 8 (chart)
Reps: 16 / 76 (chart)
inds: 49 / 44 (chart)

Congressional Job Approval
30% Approve, 59% Disapprove (chart)

State of the Country
38% Satisfied, 61% Dissatisfied (chart)

Based on what you know about the health care reform legislation being
considered right now, do you favor or oppose the plan?

34% Favor, 49% Oppose (chart)

Do you think most Americans would be better off or worse off under the
health care reforms being considered or would the reforms not make much of a
difference to most Americans across country?

34% Better off, 36% Worse off, 20% No difference

Do you think you and your family would be better off or worse off under the
health care reforms being considered or would the reforms not make much of a
difference to your family?

20% Better off, 35% Worse off, 37% No difference

Party ID
39% Democrat, 35% Republican, 22% independent (chart)

 

Comments
JMSTiger:

The sample should probably be about 38% Dems, 32% Independents and 30% Republicans. Other than that, the results seem about right. Obama continues to hold an approval rating above 50% in the vast majority of polls and healthcare reform is not all that popular in the vast majority of polls.

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conspiracy:

Could be worse. They have really screwed up this health care debate.

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Stillow:

There sample of republicans is to high....but the approval number seems right to me....he's kinda sitting i nthe low 50's...

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Wong:

My guess would be that those IND's conservatives who traditionally vote REP are feeling better about self-identifying as REPs. This would help explain the 5 point approval plurality the Pres enjoys among INDs in this poll.

Not surprising considering the current climate

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LordMike:

I don't understand how anyone could think they'd be worse off than the status quo in regards to healthcare... the system is so messed up as it is... you'd think with all the people losing their jobs and their healthcare access, they'd realize that... it's just bizarre... it really is...

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Bigmike:

@LordMike

It's not so bizarre. It's lots of things rolled into one.

Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

Govt is only efficient at collecting taxes and waging war.

Conspiracy is right. The machine from last falls campaign, and it was an extremely well run campaign, has not handled this well.

Most of us have insurance of some type or another. While BOTH sides try to pack town halls, there are a lot of folks with real concerns.

The cost is deal breaker for many all by itself.

All of that without digging into the details, like end of life counseling. Everyone who is looking forward to that raise your hand!

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LordMike:

"All of that without digging into the details, like end of life counseling. Everyone who is looking forward to that raise your hand!"

I already have a living will, everyone should.... as for the cost, It's a 1/3rd of the cost of the war in Iraq... no one EVER complained about the cost of that... and, unlike that war, this plan is fully paid for...

As for people being happy with their insurance... how many people feel secure with their insurance, especially in these jobless times? It's almost impossible to get insurance on one's own...

Crazy... really crazy....

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DemFromPOR:

This poll is definitely interesting. Looks like the debate could go either way at the moment. A lot of people are undecided about what Reform will mean for them. As a liberal I am pretty dissapointed in the messaging coming from the Democratic side. It's everywhere. I didn't think it would be this hard to combat insane lies and No.

It seems President Obama is playing his cards carefully, not showing too much. He has been awfully quiet in this fight. I expect a push back from the White House pretty soon. All during the campaign we always wanted then Sen.Obama to go on the offensive, but he was/is playing chess not checkers. He is taking his time and will wait for the perfect opportunity to fight back and BAM. He is still at 53% it seems in approval.

There is still over a month left of recess, let the Republicans and the far right blow their wad now. No need to play hardball until the game begins, or in this case REAL Bills are introduced and debate begins. By then the lies will be debunked, the "protests" will have lost fire like the teabaggers and TRUE independents will see that Republicans were against it all along no matter what came out of Congress.

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saywhat90:

I agree. It is amusing that everyone is calling this over and it hasn't even started yet. Politicians are feeling pressure from all sides not just the groups in the townhall. The mistake Pres Obama made was not sending the message in more simple terms. We americans love it when it's simple. DeathPanel, simple. Unplug Granny, simple. Start talking about public option you loose us. But say illegal immigrants in health bill, simple. We like simple. Don't like complex issues. He should of just said socialism and I want my country back. Simple and it gets the crowd going. Never you mind the details. Just say freedom and america and I'm on your side.

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saywhat90:

@Saywhat90

How dare you sully the pride of our great nation. You socialist lefty commies are all the same. All you want to do is call america stupid and hate my country. That's right it isn't your country it's mine. So take that you pinko.

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Stillow:

The problem you guys are having is that during the campaign Obama repeatedly said everyone should have access to the same plan members of Congress have......but what is bring proposed is totally different....and its so bad that congress has exempted themselves from being forced onto that plan. Obama and hte left could virtually silence the opposition by just doing away with the exemption for g'ment.

Obama and the Dems look real stupid pitching a plan to the nation, but then exempting themselves from that plan. That is one of the big reasons your side is losing this debate.

Obama and the Dems know this plan will be horrible, so they exempt themselves. Its simply another example of Obama saying one thing during the campaign, but doing soemting totally different after the campaign. If the plan is so great it should be no big deal to remvoe the exemption for g'ment right?

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Bigmike:

LordMike:

"All of that without digging into the details, like end of life counseling. Everyone who is looking forward to that raise your hand!"

"I already have a living will, everyone should"

If end of life counseling is just a living will, then why is it in the house bill? They don't need a new law to make your living will valid. It already is.

Doesn't end of life counseling sound like some govt ghoul telling you that prolonging your life will only divert precious resources from where they can do more good? Why, you have lived your life already and prolonging it will only take food out of the mouth of some poor innocent baby just starting his life.

Lets just throw in a paragraph that lets us all "Renew" and we can have Logans Run in real life.

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Bigmike:

I did a quick search to verify that I had the correct movie title. And what do you know. For those that missed the 1976 release, there is a remake coming out in 2010.

If they are going to do health care reform, it better happen quick! Mandatory euthanasia at 30 will kill any chances of passing anything with "End of life counseling."

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saywhat90:


@Bigmike

The end of life counseling was in the senate bill not the house bill. It was a republican senator who proposed it.

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Bigmike:

@saywhat90

I don't trust either side to shoot real straight on this. That is why I downloaded the house version which was current as of 7/14. I can read it for myself and not have to worry about which liar to believe.

On page 432:

"For purposes of reporting data on quality measures for covered professional services furnished during 2011 and any subsequent year, to the extent that measures are available, the Secretary shall include quality measures on end of life care ..... The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register proposed quality measures on end of life care"

How about page 624:

"to assess the continuity and coordination of care and care transitions for patients across providers and health care settings, including end of life care;"

I don't believe the house version had any provisions inserted by any Republicans. Not while Nancy is in charge.

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Bigmike:

Just to be clear, when I say I don't have to worry about which liar to believe, I am referring to politicians and political commentators.

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