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US: Obama 46, McCain 39 (Fox-10/8-9)

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Fox News / Opinion Dynamics
10/8-9/2008; 900 RV, 3%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
(story, results)

National
Obama 46, McCain 39
(9/22-23: Obama 45, McCain 39)

 

Comments
IndependentThinker:

I think McTitanic is sinking slowly but surely

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thoughtful:

Another Poll for the boomerang. this one at +7 is just below today's tracker average.

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GeorgeHusseinBush:

McCain can't even win a Faux News poll?

Wow that's bad.

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Adam:

A part of me wonders how much Fox News is going to overhaul their crap if the Dems control both houses of Congress and the White House. In other words, how much of their spin is truly coming from a right-wing mindset and how much is just sucking up to whomever's in charge at the moment?

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mysticlaker:

They don't push undecided voters...They are probably too scared to see the final results.

McSame might crap himself if he seems the number coming from faux news.

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adocarbog:

NEW battleground state
Georgia

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/IA_Georgia_101008.htm

MCain 49
Obama 46

and this pollster usually (all all others do) puts AA vote at only 25% while it was way over 30% (37%) in early voting per Georgia Sec of State

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cinnamonape:

"OH! The humanity!"

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decided:

Ohio InAdv/PollPosition Obama 49, McCain 44 Obama +5
Georgia InAdv/PollPosition McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3

Georgia is gonna be fun

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NYClassicalLiberal:

FOX NOISE POLL:
10/8-10/9
1 RV - 72 YEAR OLD MALE FROM ARIZONA
MOE 0%

MCCAIN-PALIN 100%
OBAMA-AYERS 0%

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JoelR:

@cinnamonape:
"OH! The humanity!"

Isn't that "OH! The Hannity!"

Do you think he is close to a nervous breakdown?

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mac7396:

Looks like Georgia will be turning yellow soon.

I'm surprised that people aren't embracing Sen. McCain's message of hate, division, fear, and lies. Maybe people are pre-occupied with the economy.

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DecaturMark:

I live in GA and I think Obama has an outside chance at it. The conservatives are very angry with Sen Chambliss for backing the bailout package. The Dems here are feeling resurgent. I saw an Obama ad the other night (not sure if it was a national or local). I have not seen anything from McCain. I think this will cause more trouble for McCain. Make him spend resources he desperately needs to spend elseware. Stretching the table has definitely helped the Dems.

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miatch:

@ Adam,
Fox is definitely right side, not power side. They came to fruition beating up Clinton. Their Monica coverage made them.

I actually think they look forward to attacking in power Dems. Expect a new Obama scandal from Fox every month.

Murdoch runs right wing rags the world over, doesn't matter which party is in power.

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JFactor:

It's pretty clear now that Obama is about 5-8 points ahead right now, probably close to seven points right now. The momentum is not going McCain's way so he's in deep trouble. It's pretty much over for McCain as there's no way around these numbers.
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http://www.internationalpoliticstoday.com

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miatch:

@ Adam... also, this is from Salon.com:

Roger Ailes: The head of Fox News, Ailes was a veteran Republican operative long before he was a news executive, having worked as a media consultant in the presidential campaigns of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and the first President Bush. In 1989, he worked as a media consultant on the unsuccessful first mayoral campaign of a former federal prosecutor named Rudy Giuliani, with whom he had bonded at dinner parties over their shared admiration for Ronald Reagan. Since then, Giuliani and Ailes have remained good friends. Giuliani officiated at Ailes' wedding and brought presents to Ailes' room when Ailes was hospitalized in 1998. The New York Times has reported that aides to the two men say they don't see each other often, but they did sit together at the White House Correspondents' Dinner in April 2007 -- which Giuliani attended as a guest of News Corp. (Ailes has also socialized with Bernie Kerik.)

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IndependentThinker:

Astonishingly boomSPIN is missing today
Have someone heard from him today?
Maybe he's suspending his ludicrous comment on this blog till further notice

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ All the lib Dems

Cool it down boys and girls ! You may end up in an overheat situation and burn your bunns ... And DecaturMark, slow down on the Koolaid amigo ... Angry conservatives are not going to vote for a communista ...

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masselo:

I cant wait to see how hannity is going to explain these numbers tonight.

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NW Patrick:

I have a feeling part of the 30 min. media prime time buy will be that amazing video they played before Obama's nomination acceptance speach in Denver. I hope it is. That was POWERFUL.

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johncoz:

@Adam

From Rupert's POV it's about niche marketing. As long as there's a substantial audience out there, they won't change.

@others
The poll is commissioned by Fox, but not conducted by them. Their pollster doesn't have the best record (they're in the second half of the class) but is not noticeably bent. As thoughtful pointed out, the 7pt spread is in line with the trend for the period.

I note the first comment on the Fox story, however, shows the kind of head-in-sand-optimism we have come to expect of the lunar right: "46-39 means that there is still 15% up for grabs. 26 days, anything can happen."

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masselo:

i cant wait to see how Hannity is going to exlplain these numbers tonight. LOL

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DecaturMark:

In the coming years out in the wilderness, Fox News will try to find someone to rally behind. I think Huckabee will be their goto guy. I would not be surprised if they offer Palin her own show. That would be a scary ticket. But in the long run, I think a new person needs to come forward to rescue the republicans. I don't see anyone on the horizon. Whoever it is will be much more centrist than right.

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Dave:

@Adam

Don't worry about faux, adam. it is owned, operated and fully infested with right wing nuts. the director of faux noise is none other than Roger Ailes, Rove's mentor and former Reagan administration ministry of propaganda director.

If the democrats win everything, then every ill you can imagine will immediately and constantly be blamed on the democrats in charge from then on.

the best thing to do would be to revoke their ill begotten broadcasting license.

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NW Patrick:

VivalaRevolucion it's going to take a hell of a lot more than Angry conservatives!:)

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cinnamonape:

Historical trend for that IA Poll for Georgia

Dates N/Pop McC Ob Barr UnD Other
IA 10/9/08 531 LV 49 46(-3) 2 3
IA 9/30/08 561 LV 50 44(-6) - 4 2
IA 9/17/08 503 LV 51 43(-8) - 5 2
IA 9/10/08 506 LV 56 38(-18) - 4 2

Ras 10/7 500LV 54 45 - 1 0
StrVis (R)10/5-7 800LV 50 43 2 5 -
DKos/R2000 9/29-10/1 600LV 50 43 - 4 3
SUSA 9/28-29 677 LV 52 44 - 4 -
ARG 9/18-21 600 LV 57 39 - 4 -

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political_junki:

BOOM is in the field today investigating ACORN's unspeakable act of asking people to vote.
Wait till Obama drops 1% in a vote and he will be all over pollster singing the "McSame's urge" song :))

Although another theory has it that he is a secret Obama agent pushing people away from McShame by propagating nonsense on his behalf

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DecaturMark:

@VivalaRevolucion

I said the Obama has a chance in GA, I did not say he would win GA. I was not getting ahead of myself. I am seeing huge early voting turnout in prodominately Dem areas. The conservatives have been lackluster. There is a long way to go, but McCain is having to cover his flank in too many places.

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chgo1:
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IndependentThinker:

Rectification
Has ****

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Paul:

adocarbog:

RE: Georgia - In 2004, exit poll had 70% white, 25% black, 4% Latino, 1% other.

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Adam:

Okay okay, point taken: Fox is beyond hope. :-)

Surely there are SOME outlets or personalities, though, that will sycophantically shift with the winds... it'll be interesting to see.

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VivalaRevolucion:

Seriously ... other than flashy numbers, you really think when folks get close to the voting booth , race will become more of a factor ... racism is very inherent on both sides and often subliminal .. both with dems + libs ...

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thoughtful:

@DecaturMark

I actually was rating Obama's chances in Georgia better than WV.

Georgia really is a matter of how enthusiastic and thus GOTV the Dems are versus a very disaffected GOP and Conservative base. I can see Barr having an effect, its the AA vote and turnout that could really be decisive

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NW Patrick:

I disagree who thinkgs that Palin has a future in the GOP. If McCain loses badly, Palin disappears.

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carl29:

This is the worst part:

"OF INTEREST: Having Joe Biden as Obama's running mate makes people 11 percentage points likelier to support the Democrats, while McCain's choice of Sarah Palin is an 8-point drag on the Republican ticket."

See that it is not our impression. The girl is just a problem!!!!

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Paul:

More on Georgia:

Obama needs about 32% of the white vote, 94% of the AA vote and 60% other with 30% of electorate AA to win.

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MNLatteLiberal:

it must be jenn's day off, and marctx is still digesting the talking points, Palin-like. boomshack, nerves failing, is watching looped Sarah's Ms Wasilla bathing suit competition to regain strength. And so it falls on VivalaRevo to provide the paprika for today's McFail toast. Or goulash, if you prefer to keep the Hungarian metaphor.

Viva, your McGoose is cooked. How do you take it? Completely burnt or with a little blood?

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NW Patrick:

McCain didn't talk about the stock market yesterday, and didn't put out a statement on it, while Obama did both, and McCain campaign manager Rick Davis was asked about that on a conference call (about Acorn!) this afternoon.

"There's very little a candidate for president can say and very little the president can say about what's happening in the stock markets except hope that they correct themselves," Davis said, adding that McCain's mortgage plan could be an "elixir" for the financial crisis.

...

The campaign, he said, shouldn't become a "CNBC news show on the stock market."

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VivalaRevolucion:

8 years of a man who was able to " charm " his way to the presidency ( GWB) despite utter lack of substance, to now (perhaps) another 4 years of a man ( BO) who is eloquent and charming withzero substance ... This country does not chose well its leaders ...

Viva Mitt Romney !!!

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DecaturMark:

@VivalaRevolucion

GA has been voting for over a week now. It has been during this time that the Dow has been tanking. Like it or not, the party in power (Bush is a Republican remember) always takes the credit or blame. Also, During the past 3 weeks we have had a gasoline shortage in GA. We have had gas lines through out the state. Again, the party in power gets the blame (Gov and Legislature is Rep). Their #'s are very low right now. And during this time early voting is taking place. I am just quoting Tip Oneill, "all politics is local."

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Wow ...

Even the FOX can't hide the truth now...

was just over at election-projection.net
They have Obama win percentage at 99.5%
I love their graph showing win scenarios
Last month it had 50/50 Red/Blue
now all McSame has is a few lil red pixels
on the far side...HA Ha Ha

GObama!!

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1magine:
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nick-socal:

If Palin has a future in the GOP then maybe she can run against Geraldine Ferraro in 2016.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ MNlatte liberal ...

Ah that latte tasted good when I drank it .. Few hours later it came out as MNlatte liberal ..

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carl29:

"GA has been voting for over a week now"

Yes, sr.

Guess what % of those voting early are AA?
Almost 40% of people casting their ballots early in GA. are AA. :-)

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Shannon,Dallas,Texas:

Even when posed with leading questions, Obama comes out on top by a wide margin. The questions should have favored McCain, yet he could do no better than 39%.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ Carl 29

Wow!! You should run for president in 2012 ... The list of idiots for 12 years in a row ( GWB and BO) may open a way for another genius ...

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carl29:

Thank you, VivalaRevolucion. I will take it into account. However, President Obama will be up for re-election, and I'll be happy to help him again :-)!!!

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NW Patrick:

VivalaRevolucion yah the liberal turned "conservative." Viva Romney! Like the disgusting right wingers would vote for a MORMON! I can see it now.

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

I'm thinking about walking across the street and getting a latte to celebrate that McCain is only getting 39% in one of the most right-leaning polls.

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MNLatteLiberal:

Vivala, thank you for your contribution to the discourse.

Good to see where McSupport is coming from! If the KKK stays home on the 4th, it will be up to people like you to make sure McCain still carries AK and TX.

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VivalaRevolucion:

The poll was not about race, but it seems the folks at AP-Yahoo-Stanford were curious enough to ask. The racism of Democrats must be confronted rather than hidden, and this might be one of the unintended consequences of Obama's candidacy.

It is the 21st century, yet the same political party which prances a "progressive" dance still harbors some horrible attitudes. And there are plenty of reasons why no one should vote for Obama/Biden; race should not be on the template.

What of the Republican racists? Oh, they're still out there, but most of them would not vote for a quasi-socialist one-worlder regardless of his race, creed, or color. And we might see in eight years whether or not these people would vote for a woman for President.

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VivalaRevolucion:

From party of peace and love -- Dem**** ..

More than a third of all white Democrats and independents — voters Obama can't win the White House without — agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views. …

"There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean there's only a few bigots," said Stanford political scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.

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MNLatteLiberal:

Vivala, please do not try to pawn your idiots off to us. dubya is YOUR creature. that brainless abomination was created by the GOP.
So, take your GWB mitt Romney and smoke it.

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mysticlaker:

anyone know if any other polls are expected today?

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

This is the first poll showing McCain under 40% since the Democratic convention in August.

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carl29:

LISTEN UP, GUYS:

Guess who is going to West Virginia?

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will be in West Virginia on Sunday, according to news reports.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@MNLatte Liberal

The Bushies like your brother voted for and the obamites like you will be voting for are equal in their stupidity in chosing adequate leaders ...

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thisniss:

GA not terribly surprising, but then I'm from NC.

What I want to see is some SC polling. Now *that* is where a real shock could happen. Not saying it will, mind you. But when was the last SC poll? Looks like it hasn't been polled since the 9/20ish range. Could be interesting to see what the post-Palinpalooza, post-Economania numbers look like there.

Regardless of the outcome this year, though, by 2012 we will be talking about the "Atlantic Coast" as a separate regional voter bloc from "The South." The demographic and cultural shifts in the Atlantic corridor of VA/NC/SC/GA/FL are guaranteeing that this is no longer "solid South" terrain, politically.

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carl29:

LISTEN UP, GUYS:

Guess who is going to West Virginia?

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will be in West Virginia on Sunday, according to news reports.

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NW Patrick:

DAMMIT! My state is no longer home to the richest man in the world! Buffet overtook Gates due to the STOCK MARKET crash:) LOL

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thoughtful:

How much of this spewed hatred from McCain/Palin is a diversion away from Palin's abuse of power rap and the real secessionists?

All the bones in McCain's and Palin's closets?

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carl29:

Maybe ARG's poll from WV wasn't as terrible as we thought or the McCain Camp. has gone totally nuts, once for all.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ MNLAtteLiberal

Did you notice that you liberal ****heads in teh most liberal states ( e.g. CA, MA ... ) make sure that in times of crisis you vote for Repubs for your own governance -- When it comes to your governance , you chose a fiscal conservative .. but for teh rest of the country , screw them , right ? Hypocritical ? hmmm ..

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d3nnisbest:

I think boomshak suspended his troll campaign to rescue the economy. He'll be back tomorrow.

Re FOX News. They'll probably be just fine. They did OK during the Clinton years. I do hope the mentally retarded people who are attending the Republican rallies crawl back under their rocks. They are basically a bunch of frontrunners. They equate Bush/McCain with country itself. They honestly think they are losing their country. Too stupid for words.

Remember that crap about how disrespecting the President was treasonous? Guess we won't be hearing that anymore.

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DecaturMark:

@thisniss

Interesting point. Of course then you have relegated NC,SC, GA and FL as part of the East coast liberal elite! ;-)

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thoughtful:

@mysticlaker This is all todays on RCP

Race Poll Results Spread
Florida Strategic Vision (R) Obama 52, McCain 44 Obama +8
Georgia InAdv/PollPosition McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3
National FOX News Obama 46, McCain 39 Obama +7
National Gallup Tracking Obama 51, McCain 41 Obama +10
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5
National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 41 Obama +7
National Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking Obama 48, McCain 43 Obama +5
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8
Ohio InAdv/PollPosition Obama 49, McCain 44 Obama +5
Ohio Strategic Vision (R) Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Wisconsin Research 2000 Obama 51, McCain 41 Obama +10

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NW Patrick:

VivalaRevolucion ARNOLD IS A VERY VERY LIBERAL REPUBLICAN. Pro gay rights, pro alternative energy, etc. Get a freakin' LIFE. ROMNEY RAN AS A LIBERAL conservative.

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zotz:

Obama got in some trouble for making this speech and Kiptin and some of the other reactionaries here were pretty angry about it but you guys got to see this video. It's incredible how prescient Obama has been.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/prescience.html

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Jordan - San Marcos TX:

There are also still a lot of Republicans in California that can swing elections in the case of a moderate Republican or popular Republican running. Orange County, San Diego County, the Inland Empire for example are all downright conservative places with a lot of people.

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Andy:

This race really might be over, though I think we really should be careful to say or consider that with 24 days still to go. But, unless something really dramatic happens between now and Nov 4th, this race reall could be over. The latest Insider Advantage\poll position polls from GA has Mccain leading by +3 in Georgia which is within the MOE i.e. +/- 4%

If 3 weeks before the election, if any GA poll shows results are within MOE and no clear lead for Mccain, this could mean the race is over for Mccain

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ NWPatrick

Listen brother ... Do you understand the difference between a fiscal conservative ( true conservative) and a social one? If you do , then you understand what I am refering to amigo ...

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carl29:

Pulling Away!!!!!!!

NEWSWEEK poll: Obama opens a double-digit lead in new :-)

Sorry "boomy." Forget it, you are with Rass.

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NW Patrick:

OMG Palin's now saying OBAMA MADE A SECRET DEAL with Iraq! Wow. A woman with ZERO credibility spewing BS. She's disgusting. Thank GOD polls agree!

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Stonecreek:

Intrade has jumped as high as 80 for Obama today, with trading currently at around 79. This is up several points today. Intrade's electoral college count is currently at 353 for Obama. Don'tcha just love the "free market"!

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NW Patrick:

VivalaRevolucion oh that's right. You mean the fiscal conservative BUSH with the largest spending in the history of the world? Or did you mean Reagan, the 2nd largest spender in the history of the world? Do facts always skip you?

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NW Patrick:

VivalaRevolucion CA is not even in the top 3 of the MOST LIBERAL states. WA State is more liberal percentage wise. As is Illinois and several others.

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NW Patrick:

OR VivalaRevolucion did you mean Romney who left MA with massive deficit?

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NW Patrick:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163339

WOW! From a tie one month ago to +11 Obama. It's just about over. Keep fighting DEMS!

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thoughtful:

@zotz

Thanks for posting the reminder. KipTin was Undecided then. It was marctx who made a big fuss

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/prescience.html

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mysticlaker:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163339

52 - Boomfail, Mystic Laker, Thoughtful, NW Patrick, Connor, the rest of the good guys.
41 - Boomshak, Kiptin, Jenn, and other cowards.

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McShame:

I think the Newsweek poll is an outlier. Check the party affiliation - sample includes 402 Democrats and 280 Republicans (a +12 DEM advantage).

http://www.newsweek.com/id/163339/page/2

Obama is up no doubt (5-6 points IMO), but double-digit lead sounds too good to be true.

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mysticlaker:

@thoughtful

Thanks!

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MNLatteLiberal:

Vivala, that's very insightful. You must've noticed then that it's the Democrats that bail your Republican ass out every time you soil up the rug of American economy, right? Clinton after Bush-father and now Obama after dubya.

And yeah, Romney did an admirable job in MA. I happened to have lived in MA during the Democratic gov and then saw the Romney miracle. Trickle down my ass, Viva. Those Reagan fairy tales no longer work. Nice try. You don't win the stuffed bear, but thanks for playing.

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nick-socal:

I made a secret deal with Iraq too. You guys will find out what it is on Nov. 4th.

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mysticlaker:

That newsweek poll is going to push RCP up significantly. It should drop up the remaining +3 from Dem Corps and add a +11 for Obama.

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kerrchdavis:

Hey, Vivala is back! How you doing buddy? Did you learn English yet?

Mitt Romney? lol. He got his ass handed to him by a guy who can't even run a half decent campaign.

What a joke.

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mysticlaker:

But it doesn't...RCP plays with the numbers. They suck....They kept the +3 in there. What a bunch of jokers.

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Boris_Dieter:

Sheeesh, just when you think that Lady Macbeth Palin can't get any oilier, she is out there repeating a lie printed in the Washington Times. It is a lie that was already rebutted by Chuck Hagel (Republican) and others. Evidently that large mosquito, passing as a pitbull with lipstick is repeating a lie published by the Times that Obama tried to delay negotiations between the U.S. and Iraqi officials regarding troop withdrawals. That's been denied by all the American officials who attended that meeting, but that doesn't stop the slime-infested Palin/McCain folks. I love it. You're comeuppance is nigh. Still, the sheer audacity of deceitfulness takes my breath away.

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kerrchdavis:

@mysti

Look at it this way. Whatever the average RCP is reporting, we KNOW it is probable Obama is leading by more.

:D

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carl29:

McShame,

I agree that the party ID is around 12%, quite a lot, although some pollster hare reported a boost in Dem. party ID, as a consequence of the financial meltdown.

If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:

Obama 50% McCain 44%

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Adam:

I'm suspicious of the Newsweek poll too, because of this: "He now leads McCain among both men (54 percent to 40 percent) and women (50 percent to 41 percent)."

A bigger Obama lead among men than women?? Has ANY other poll shown that?


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kerrchdavis:

RCP now has the newsweek poll listed. DOnt think its been added to their average yet though.

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[nemesis]:

kerrchdavis:

RCP has updated their average, but the average listed on the main page hasn't been updated yet.

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kerrchdavis:

@Adam

Maybe they interviewed really feminine men? And really masculine women?

lol :)

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kerrchdavis:

@nemesis

ok, cool! thanks for the heads up

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carl29:

The good thing is that we can see the demographics, put aside the party ID.

For example, I think that the majority of pollsters now agree that McCain and Obama are getting around the same share of support from their respective party, Obama from Democrats and McCain from Democrats. Think about, Obama's advantage over McCain is almost the same advantage in party ID, 6%.

Obviously that if Obama is getting the same amount of support for Democrats, that means that Hillary supporters came "home" already. Now Obama is not bleeding democrats as he was before.

Confirmation? Look at this numbers:
Hillary Clinton Supporters Obama 88% McCain 7%

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thoughtful:

With regards the McCain/Palin Lies and personal attacks

There are a few decent Republicans out there who may have endorsed McCain or intended to vote for the ticket that are going to change their minds on this.

I expect a flood of Republican repudiation of McCain/Palin. Wouldn't be surprized if Arnie comes round.

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Observer:

Boris_Dieter said: "Sheeesh, just when you think that Lady Macbeth Palin can't get any oilier, she is out there repeating a lie printed in the Washington Times. It is a lie that was already rebutted by Chuck Hagel (Republican) and others. Evidently that large mosquito, passing as a pitbull with lipstick is repeating a lie published by the Times that Obama tried to delay negotiations between the U.S. and Iraqi officials regarding troop withdrawals. That's been denied by all the American officials who attended that meeting, but that doesn't stop the slime-infested Palin/McCain folks. I love it. You're comeuppance is nigh. Still, the sheer audacity of deceitfulness takes my breath away."

Well it certainly takes my breath away because Obama has already confirmed that this report was true even though his campaign now denies it. From:

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1245/pub_detail.asp

"Obama 101 - My firsthand lesson on how Obama Operates
Amir Taheri, NRO.com

On Monday, in an opinion piece published in the New York Post, I suggested that Senator Barack Obama had urged Iraqi leaders to postpone making an agreement with the United States until there was a new administration in Washington.

I said this because Obama himself had said it.

In an interview broadcast by NBC on June 16, 2008, Obama said that he had told Iraqi foreign minister Hoshyar Zebari that “the Congress should be involved in any negotiations regarding the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq” and “suggested it may be better to wait until the next administration to negotiate such an agreement.”

I said it because Iraqi foreign minister Hoshyar Zebari said it.

In an interview published by the pan-Arab daily Asharq Alawast on September 11, 2008, Zebari raised the issue at length. This is part of what he said: “Obama asked me why, in view of a change of administration, we were hurrying the signing of this special agreement, and why we did not wait until the coming of a new administration next year to agree on some issues and matters.”

I am afraid that Obama supporters will have to change their defence of Obama from denying he ever did or would do such a thing to explaining how wonderful it was that he did it.

Obama seems to be in denial mode and rubbishes everything he doesn't like automatically without any concern for truth.

Ayres wasn't just a man who lived in the neighbourhood.

Obama's denial that he worked for Acorn have now been proven to be untrue.

Does anybody still believe that he spent 20 years not listening to what Rev Wright was saying?

How do you know that Obama is lying? His lips are moving...

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@Nov4 is coming:

Next time she will reveal that Obama is a ET. I think she is undercover agent for O.

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nick-socal:

Seriously, as someone else mentioned earlier today on this site, what is McCain's strategy here? Now he's out launching a web site linking ACORN to Obama and is 'decrying' how Obama supporters are attacking McCain supporters... Is he trying to set up a situation where the election is called off due to violent instability and voter fraud? What the hell is his strategy with this?

Or is he simply a hapless idiot with no end game?

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atreides:

How is it at this late date the Fox Poll can still show 15% undecided. Ras and Gallup show 5 to 7. What's wrong with this picture?

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obamaownsboomcrapnkiptin:

palins sat scores!oh lordddddddddddd!
http://buzzfeed.com/scott/sarah-palins-sat-scores

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