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US: Obama 49, McCain 41 (Economist-10/20-21)

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Economist / YouGov-Polimetrix
10/20-21/08; 1,000 LV, 3%
Mode: IVR

National
Obama 49, McCain 41

 

Comments
boomshak2.0:

Fail! Next.....

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d3nnisbest:

Dear Boomtard,

Ha. Ha.

Your truly,
Reality

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mysticlaker:

It's not in the MOE. So it's a fail.

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boomspin:

McCain surge peoples! He's going to win, and continue the policies of our best Administration EVER!

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mac7396:

Sorry this poll undersamples evangelicals and the 18-24 year old demo which will all vote 100% McCain. Outlier.

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boomshak:

LIES!

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boskop:

the problem with this poll is not it's numbers but how it leads.
if the questions follow this sequence it is leading the witness so to speak and frankly, rather disgusting.

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boomshack:

the funniest thing about the Economist polls is that everybody lies about reading Economist polls.

FAIL!
Next

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Shannon,Dallas,Texas:

These polls are driving the trolls nuts. Take a lunch break.

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mac7396:

South Carolina will look awfully lonely when all the states on the east coast are either blue or yellow (Georgia is the next to fall)

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boomshack:

VOTER FRAUD ALERT story getting traction!

VOTER FRAUD ALERT

A friend of mine was buying Depends in Target yesterday. The one on the Circle At North Hills (I can post a link if someone doesn't believe me). He gave the sales clerk a twenty dollar bill, and she shortchanged him, pretending like she was giving change from a ten. He did not discover the fraud until he got home.

It is well known that Target stores are OWNED by Dayton-Target Corporation. And who is the owner of the Dayton-Target Corporation? None other than Mark Dayton, the most LIBERAL senator from Minnesota who also happens to be a HUGE contributor to OBOZONATORATORS!

Now, where do you suppose my friend's money went? Right! I am writing the FCC to file a complaint. Obama is seriously going down for this!

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eugene:

The Chicago media is reporting someone in he Republican party was trying to pay Bill Ayers 500,000 to come on fox and admit Obama supported all of his views,but Ayers didnot buy the bait,and also this woman who claims she was beaten by a Obama supporter in Pittsburgh who happens to be black, probaly is making up the story,because she knows a race war could benefit Mccain bigtime,I wont be suprise if the Republican party had something to do with this too

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eugene:

The Chicago media is reporting someone in he Republican party was trying to pay Bill Ayers 500,000 to come on fox and admit Obama supported all of his views,but Ayers didnot buy the bait,and also this woman who claims she was beaten by a Obama supporter in Pittsburgh who happens to be black, probaly is making up the story,because she knows a race war could benefit Mccain bigtime,I wont be suprise if the Republican party had something to do with this too

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zotz:

boom-
How does it feel when the reality that you believe in turns out to be a pack of lies?

"There is no unified "right" or "center-right," which is why we are no longer a conservative country, if we ever were.

Conservatism has finally crashed on problems for which its doctrines offered no solutions (the economic crisis foremost among them, thus Bush's apostasy) and on its refusal to acknowledge that the "real America" is more diverse, pragmatic and culturally moderate than the place described in Palin's speeches or imagined by the right-wing talk show hosts.

Conservatives came to believe that if they repeated phrases such as "Joe the Plumber" often enough, they could persuade working-class voters that policies tilted heavily in favor of the very privileged were actually designed with Joe in mind.

It isn't working anymore. No wonder conservatives are turning on each other so
ferociously."
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=00c06f55-a5e0-48fb-a5e1-c3978ba94600

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MichaelJason:

Insider Advantage: Obama AHEAD in Georgia

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Thatcher:

Isn't this the first IVR for Economist? Otherwise I thought they only did internet polling.

At the same time, this is the biggest lead Economist has shown for Obama (I think previous biggest was +6)

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BigTex:

Vote Fraud!!? Are you kidding me? Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia ring a bell? Bush getting more votes in some counties than registered voters? McCain is in trouble and his last chance is by calling Diebold!

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Ryguy:

the economist! that liberal think tank? i dont think so. FAIL

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boomshak:

AMAZING NEWS!

I just heard from a friend who has a friend inside the Obama Campaign that they are FREAKING OUT from some of their internal polling showing their lead slipping away in every battleground state - even CO where their internal polls show it dead even.

Things are NOT as they seem with these public polls.

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DecaturMark:

@MichaelJason

I live in GA and the longest lines for early voting are in the heavily Dem areas. McCain might win GA but he will have to come from behind to do it. I wouldn't mind McCain winning GA if we can get rid of Sen Chambliss. That would be a trade I would make any day of the week.

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MichaelJason:

Keep dreaming BOOMF**K

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Thatcher:

@boomshak

1) voter registration fraud is not voter fraud

2) voter fraud only occurs when someone who is fraudulently registered tries to vote

3) Daffy Duck and Micky Mouse won't be voting in this election

4) Some of ACORN's registration forms are bad due to a few bad apples in the people doing the registering. HOWEVER, ACORN - by law - cannot throw away any of them, and can only turn them in. What they do is they flag the ones they feel aren't up-to-snuff so that the SOS knows they are keeping an eye on these and helps out the SOS by weeding out ones ACORN feels are suspicious.

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boomshak:

OBAMA CAMP freaking out about internal polls.

I heard there was a big fight this morning as people are already starting to point fingers.

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MichaelJason:

Good to hear DecaturMark. I dont' like the dirty race Chambliss ran against Cleland in 2002. Payback is a B**CH

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alankeyesisawesome:

STOP ATTACKING BOOMSHAK....I HEARD IT TOO!!!! OBAMA IS TREMBLING IN HIS BOOTS...THAT'S WHY HE HAD THE NERVOUS BREAKDOWN AND WENT TO HAWAII! WASN'T BECAUSE OF HIS SICK GRANDMA, BUT HE HAD TO RETOOL HIS CAMPAIGN.

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WhereisMitt:

Anyone with advance read on Rasmussen's North Carolina poll due out at noon?

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ErnieLynch:

eugene:
The Chicago media is reporting someone in he Republican party was trying to pay Bill Ayers 500,000 to come on fox and admit Obama supported all of his views,but Ayers didnot buy the bait,and also this woman who claims she was beaten by a Obama supporter in Pittsburgh who happens to be black, probaly is making up the story,because she knows a race war could benefit Mccain bigtime,I wont be suprise if the Republican party had something to do with this too

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The woman from Pittsurgh that was beaten was not from Pittsburgh but a McCain staffer from Texas.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08298/922564-100.stm

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abraxaf:

I just heard from a friend who has a friend inside the Obama Campaign

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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PortlandRocks:

boomshak you have a friend inside the Obama campaign. ROFL. Boom you have an assignment. Show me 1 time in history that someonewith with a 7% popular vote lead has ever LOST the electoral college. Waiting.:)

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boomshak:

I am hearing more about this internal polling blow up inside the Obama Camp.

They just completed a new round of the battleground states and there has been a major swing towards McCain in the last 3 days.

McCain leads in OH, NC, IN and FL and is 2 points down in VA but tied in CO!

Woohoo!

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boom&KipTinSUCK:

The truth is the point finger is going on inside of the Republican party because they realize the old fart and the Barby are going to lose
Get used of it boomSTUPID

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OneAngryDwarf:

@everyone

Don't believe your eyes, or the eyes of the 400K people who are doing these polls, reporting the news, or providing comments and analysis on this campaign.

Believe boomshak's "anonymous friend" because he's the only one who knows.

Sheesh...

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boomshak:

PortlandRocks:

I have a friend of a friend numbnuts, readt the post.

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fed:

LOL...........this is just out!!!!!!!
Palin's Makeup Artist Is McCain's Highest Paid Staffer For First Half Of October

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mac7396:

BREAKING NEWS SHOCK!!

Boomshak has a friend......Developing

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Nowukkers:

Boom:
Even Greenspan admitted yesterday that a free market is not the solution for economic problems - that government regulation was sometimes necessary. Problems do not get solved by ideology. They get solved by people who work at finding a solution, regardless of whether that solution fits the ideology. You guys , sooner or later, have got to come to the realization that your **** stinks just as much as the rest of ours. This "sky will fall" routine is tiresome. In case you hadn't noticed, the sky has already fallen, on your boy's watch. He had a monopoly on all three branches of goverment for six years and all he could do was spout bumper-sticker mantras and dole out corporate goodies for those who brought him to the dance. Times up ... next please.

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Vokoban:

boomshak,

it's not possible you have a friend. And if you had, this friend cannot have other friends.

It's just too perverted to even imagine.

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alankeyesisawesome:

HEY LIBERALS...PLEASE TAKE YOUR REALITY PILLS! MCCAIN IS LEADING BY A HUGGGEEE MARGIN, NO WAY TO SPIN THAT!!!! THE ENTHUSIASM OF OBAMA SUPPORTERS IS GOING DOWN AND MCCAIN'S SUPPORTER ENTHUSIASM IS THROUGH THE ROOF. MCCAIN ALSO HAS A BETTER GOTV ORGANIZATION THAN OBAMA.

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PortlandRocks:

Boom so 1 Republican poll shows McCain up 3 in OH and 4 now show Obama up 10 or more and you are excited? WOW. Intelligence, Find it.

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NextAmericanChapter:

Much of the Economic magazine is owned by the family of Lady de Rothschild who's constantly spewing vitriol against Obama to right-wing media outlets (FoxNews/LimbaughRadio). I hope she gags when she sees this poll.

I don't mind people like Boomshak who have been steadfast conservatives continuing to bash Obama. But turncoats like this de Rothschild scumbag really piss me off because it clear that they don't have policy differences with Obama, they're just personally prejudiced against the very idea of an Obama.

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jlm9:

I also agree with Decatur as well - Sleazy Chambliss campaigns both times have been disgusting and hopefully the good people here will vote him out even if they want McCain for president

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kerrchdavis:

@boomshak

roflmao! a friend of a friend?

My grandmother's friend's niece's janitor's wife's daughter's schoolmate's father's pastor has a friend in the McCain campaign that says they are in trouble.

woohooo!

pathetic. fail.

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boom&KipTinSUCK:


Here's the truth boomIDIOT, I challenge anybody to show a similar article regarding the democrat camp

WASHINGTON--Conservatives are at each other's throats, and here's what's revealing about how divided they are: The critics of John McCain and the critics of Sarah Palin represent entirely different camps.

Skeptical social conservatives are precisely the people McCain was trying to mollify by picking Palin as his running mate. These include the faithful of the religious right who remember McCain as their enemy in 2000, and parts of the gun crowd who always saw McCain as soft on their issues.
That McCain felt a need to make such an outlandishly risky choice speaks to how insecure his hold was on the core Republican vote. A candidate is supposed to rally the base during the primaries and reach out to the middle at election time. McCain got it backward, and it's hurting him.
A Pew Research Center survey this week found that among political independents, Palin's unfavorable rating has almost doubled since mid-September, from 27 percent to 50 percent. Whatever enthusiasm Palin inspired among conservative ideologues is more than offset by middle-of-the road defections.

Even on the right, she hasn't done the job. In The Washington Post tracking poll released on Thursday, Barack Obama drew 22 percent of the vote from self-described conservatives. That's a seven-point gain on John Kerry's 2004 conservative share.

Yet the pro-Palin right is still impatient with McCain for not being tough enough--as if he has not run one of the most negative campaigns in recent history. This camp believes that if McCain only shouted the names "Bill Ayers" and "Jeremiah Wright" at the top of his lungs, the whole election would turn around.

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PortlandRocks:

BOOM**** PLEASE SOURCE YOUR INTERNAL POLLING STORIES. SOURCE IT... There are alot of SMART people in this room. Ya see righty... we need SOURCES. Let's see if you are getting this from redstate.com :)

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abraxaf:

Obama is an effete elitist snob. Lady de Rothschild is a woman of the people.

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MichaelJason:

I actually know people working on the campaign, and internal numbers are NOT released to anyone on the staff except for Plouffe, Axelrod, Barack, and Michelle, so this is completely FALSE. Grow up Boomshak!

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laguna_b:

@boomshak, alankeyesisanidiot,

Do you really think we are going to beleive this sort of crap comming from your imagination??? That is why McCain was floxumed to go to Pa. and spend all his money because Obama was terrified it was slipping away...now McCain's money is slipping away....and there is not enough in all the bailout to plug the leaks in all the states!

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boomshack:

THIS JUST IN
BREAKING STORY:

I have a friend who heard about a certain five dollar bill placed under Natasha Obama's pillow by an unknown and probably unwitting supporter, and said bill magically DISAPPEARED by the next afternoon. Now, who do you think took it? TOOTH FAIRY?! It has Obama fingerprints all over it!

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OneAngryDwarf:

@kerrchdavis

Can you add this to the boomfolly archives? Along with his now famous predicition that there was a breaking campaign finance scandal that would cripple the campaign. Oh and how about the race tied by Sunday, or that the Ayers smears were going to take Obama down, or...

Crap so much stupidity I can't even remember it all now. DAMMIT!!!

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maddiekat:

boomshak are you drinking again?

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BigTex:

Baghdad Boomshak is right! The polls are all wrong. Its not like the exit polls in 2004 where all were correct and the key battleground states which showed a lead for Kerry were just wrong.

McCain will win because the Bradley effect, Diebold voting machine effect, Joe Six Pack seeing the middle name "Hussein", and fewer voting machines in democratic areas.

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alankeyesisawesome:

@laguna_b
Well, the polling doesn't matter so much, because McCains supporters are getting much more enthusiastic than Obama's, and are turning out in droves. Early voters supported bush overwhelmingly in 2004, and now they are showing up in even more record numbers to vote for McCain/Palin.

Stop trying to spin this, libs.

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boomspin:

DEATH TO THE NIGGER COMMIES!

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kerrchdavis:

@OneAngryDwarf

I don't know, booms archive of stupidity has taken up almost my entire hard drive. :)

I really hope he doesn't have kids. It's not fair for someone this pathetic to pass their genes along.

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zotz:

BREAKING NEWS!!!
I have a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend that said boom wears pink bunny slippers!!!

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Scott W:

HEY BOOMSPACKLE!

It is not even believeable that you HAVE "a friend that has a friend inside the Obama campaign". Your stories today are getting more and more creative though!

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MNLatteLiberal:

morning all

"OneAngryDwarf:

@kerrchdavis

Can you add this to the boomfolly archives? Along with his now famous predicition that there was a breaking campaign finance scandal that would cripple the campaign. Oh and how about the race tied by Sunday, or that the Ayers smears were going to take Obama down, or...

Crap so much stupidity I can't even remember it all now. DAMMIT!!!"

Good to see you both in one place. LOL.
Speaking of LOL, a rather persistent Internet rumor has it, - and you know how reliable those are - that one or both of you are responsible for boomshak. Whichever one of you it is, LMAO. Really.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

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abraxaf:

maddiekat, "again" implies that there was a time during which he stopped drinking.

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PortlandRocks:

alankeyesisawesome source for early voting favoring McCain this year? NEW RULE HERE> SOURCE IT. Even if it's from a Republican site.

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laguna_b:

@alankeyesisafool

"Well, the polling doesn't matter so much, because McCains supporters are getting much more enthusiastic than Obama's, and are turning out in droves. Early voters supported bush overwhelmingly in 2004, and now they are showing up in even more record numbers to vote for McCain/Palin."


Hmmmm, this seems contrary to virtually EVERY story I have read....quite the opposite in fact. Obamas ground game and volunteers swamp the weakest efforts of McCain's.....so I assume you just make up your own reality....which explains why you want yet ANOTHER FOUR years of failures.

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Batony:

Can someone please discount Strategic Vision poll results in 2004 before you discount their polls in 2008? I went back and compared the polls and they are extremely accurate...

Now I am willing to state a bias when I see it, but for FL, OH and PA...they were pretty accurate in 2004.

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SoloBJ:

RASMUSSEN North Carolina:
M: 50
O: 48

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ZanzibarBuckBuckMcFate:

"I am hearing more about this internal polling blow up inside the Obama Camp.

They just completed a new round of the battleground states and there has been a major swing towards McCain in the last 3 days.

McCain leads in OH, NC, IN and FL and is 2 points down in VA but tied in CO!

Woohoo!"

And I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate, boomshak. Which in the words of the infamous Dark Helmet, makes our relationship "absolutely nothing!".

You have moved into complete delusion. Medication might help out.

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Vokoban:

Here's how McCain finally managed to energize the people of America. It was a long walk, but finally he managed to take every position of each and every voter in the entire history of the USA!!!

quoted from http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops

National Security Policy

1. McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

2. McCain insisted that everyone, even “terrible killers,” “the worst kind of scum of humanity,” and detainees at Guantanamo Bay, “deserve to have some adjudication of their cases,” even if that means “releasing some of them.” McCain now believes the opposite.

3. He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.”

4. In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

5. McCain was for closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay before he was against it.

6. When Barack Obama talked about going after terrorists in Pakistani mountains with predators, McCain criticized him for it. He’s since come to the opposite conclusion.

Foreign Policy

7. McCain was for kicking Russia out of the G8 before he was against it. Now, he’s for it again.

8. McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

9. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

10. McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

11. McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

12. McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

13. McCain was against divestment from South Africa before he was for it.

Military Policy

14. McCain recently claimed that he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished.” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course.” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.”

15. McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions, concluding, on multiple occasions, that a Korea-like presence is both a good and a bad idea.

16. McCain was against additional U.S. forces in Afghanistan before he was for it.

17. McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough.”

18. McCain has repeatedly said it’s a dangerous mistake to tell the “enemy” when U.S. troops would be out of Iraq. In May, McCain announced that most American troops would be home from Iraq by 2013.

19. McCain was against expanding the GI Bill before he was for it.

20. McCain staunchly opposed Obama’s Iraq withdrawal timetable, and even blasted Mitt Romney for having referenced the word during the GOP primaries. In July, after Iraqi officials endorsed Obama’s policy, McCain said a 16-month calendar sounds like “a pretty good timetable.”

Domestic Policy

21. McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)

22. On Social Security, McCain said he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Soon after, asked about a possible increase in the payroll tax, McCain said there’s “nothing that’s off the table.”

23. McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

24. McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

25. He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

26. In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

27. McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

28. McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly.” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

29. McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.

30. McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

31. McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

32. McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

33. In 2005, McCain endorsed intelligent design creationism, a year later he said the opposite, and a few months after that, he was both for and against creationism at the same time.

34. And on gay adoption, McCain initially said he’d rather let orphans go without families, then his campaign reversed course, and soon after, McCain reversed back.

35. In the Senate, McCain opposed a variety of measures on equal pay for women, and endorsed the Supreme Court’s Ledbetter decision. In July, however, McCain said, “I’m committed to making sure that there’s equal pay for equal work. That … is my record and you can count on it.”

36. McCain was against fully funding the No Child Left Behind Act before he was for it.

37. McCain was for affirmative action before he was against it.

38. McCain said the Colorado River compact will “obviously” need to be “renegotiated.” Six days later, McCain said, “Let me be clear that I do not advocate renegotiation of the compact.”

Economic Policy

39. McCain was against Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy before he was for them.

40. John McCain initially argued that economics is not an area of expertise for him, saying, “I’m going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated,” and “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.” He now falsely denies ever having made these remarks and insists that he has a “very strong” understanding of economics.

41. McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal. And soon after that, McCain abandoned his second position and went back to his first.

42. McCain said in 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy.” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and falsely argued that he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

43. McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

44. McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes.”

45. McCain has changed his entire economic worldview on multiple occasions.

46. McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off economically than they were before Bush took office.

47. McCain was against massive government bailouts of “big banks” that “act irresponsibly.” He then announced his support for a massive government bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Energy Policy

48. McCain supported the moratorium on coastal drilling ; now he’s against it.

49. McCain recently announced his strong opposition to a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

50. McCain endorsed a cap-and-trade policy with a mandatory emissions cap. In mid-June, McCain announced he wants the caps to voluntary.

51. McCain explained his belief that a temporary suspension of the federal gas tax would provide an immediate economic stimulus. Shortly thereafter, he argued the exact opposite.

52. McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

53. McCain was for national auto emissions standards before he was against them.

Immigration Policy

54. McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. In 2007, he announced his opposition to the bill. In 2008, McCain switched back.

55. On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own bill.

56. In April, McCain promised voters that he would secure the borders “before proceeding to other reform measures.” Two months later, he abandoned his public pledge, pretended that he’d never made the promise in the first place, and vowed that a comprehensive immigration reform policy has always been, and would always be, his “top priority.”

Judicial Policy and the Rule of Law

57. McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.

58. McCain’s position was that the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

59. McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

60. In June, McCain rejected the idea of a trial for Osama bin Laden, and thought Obama’s reference to Nuremberg was a misread of history. A month later, McCain argued the exact opposite position.

61. In June, McCain described the Supreme Court’s decision in Boumediene v. Bush was “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” In August, he reversed course.

Campaign, Ethics, and Lobbying Reform

62. McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

63. In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

64. McCain supported a campaign-finance bill, which bore his name, on strengthening the public-financing system. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

65. In May 2008, McCain approved a ban on lobbyists working for his campaign. In July 2008, his campaign reversed course and said lobbyists could work for his campaign.

Politics and Associations

66. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist John Hagee. Now he doesn’t. (He also believes his endorsement from Hagee was both a good and bad idea.)

67. McCain wanted political support from radical televangelist Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

68. McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.

69. McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

70. McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.

71. In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

72. McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

73. McCain decided in 2000 that he didn’t want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he “would taint the image of the ‘Straight Talk Express.’” Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

74. McCain believed powerful right-wing activist/lobbyist Grover Norquist was “corrupt, a shill for dictators, and (with just a dose of sarcasm) Jack Abramoff’s gay lover.” McCain now considers Norquist a key political ally.

75. McCain was for presidential candidates giving speeches in foreign countries before he was against it.

76. McCain has been both for and against considering a pro-choice running mate for the Republican presidential ticket.

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OneAngryDwarf:

@kerrchdavis

I'm telling you man, invest in an external drive or something. You've got an autobiography on idiocy right there. Shop that bad boy around to an agent and voila, you could be as rich as Boomdump claims to be.

Its like a case study on willful stupidity and too much free time. They might even turn it into a movie.

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fed:

Ras Has mCsame up in NC by 2 points.......I would love to see his internals. With the early voting numbers we have so far it is hard form to believe Obama dropped 5 points in a few days

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boomshack:

MNLatteLiberal:

"OneAngryDwarf:
@kerrchdavis

Good to see you both in one place. LOL.
Speaking of LOL, a rather persistent Internet rumor has it, - and you know how reliable those are - that one or both of you are responsible for boomshak.

That's what I've been saying for DAYS!
kerrchdavis = boomshak!!!!!

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[nemesis]:

OK, I have a fun idea. It's like the old "In Soviet Russia" game. Basically, everything is backwards. "In Soviet Russia, television watches you." Let's change this game to "In boomshak's mind."

I will start:
"In boomshak's mind, McCain owns Obama."
or "In boomshak's mind, young boys enjoy boomshak"

Please, let's have some fun with this.

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NextAmericanChapter:

@ abraxaf

Sure Obama is elite...magna cum laude at Harvard University, president of the Harvard Law Review, most "inexperienced" person to run for the presidency yet he's kicking McCain's ass all over the country including THE SOUTH!!!

He's elite, he's the One, deal with it!!!

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kerrchdavis:

@boomshack

lol! How'd you know? ;)

Seriously though, even I can't make his **** up.

@OneAngry

It would be like the movie "W" only in this case, they'll call it "Boom" and the main character is even more pathetic.

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Scott W:

ALL THE POLLS ARE CONVERGING ON A 7-POINT LEAD. Election day results are looking like:

Obama: 53.0, McCain 46.5, OTHER 0.5
Obama: 385, McCain 150

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boomshack:

Vokoban:

/super long post with too many words to read/
FAIL!

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blakec:

This awsome. Out of real polls to prove his point, Boomfailed is now shouting about imagined polls coming to save McCain. LOL!

Reminds me of the stories of the last days of Hitler, issuing real orders to armies that didn't exist under the belief that they would save him.

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sunnymi:


The funny thing about the Rasmussen poll of NC is that it has Obama winning 87% Democrats (by far the largest any poll has found in the state)....I cannot imagine him lagging behind in Independents in this state by 17 points!

Must be the effect of a "Single-Day" Polling.

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bryan:

Boomshak:

The whole point of this website is to portray a more accurate reading of where a race stands by not cherry-picking one poll or another. I might add that this is exactly what the candidates' strategists do--aggregate the results of all polls--in addition to conducting their own.

But if you insist: according to fivethirtyeight.com, the 2nd and 3rd most accurate pollsters are SurveyUSA and Rasmussen, the latter a republican-friendly pollster.

Survey USA has Obama by 12 in Pennsylannia, 5 in Ohio, 4 in Indiana, 8 in Missouri and 6 in Virginia.

At the national level, Rasmussen hasn't shown Obama at less than 50% and McCain above 46% since Sept. 25. At the state level, Rasmussen shows Obama with a 10 point lead in Virginia, a 3 point lead in NC, a 5 point lead in Missouri, a 7 point lead in Colorado,a 10 point lead in N. Hampshire, and a 13 point lead in Pennsylvania.

Just what avenue reliably points McCain to 270 EV? Don't tell me: "Second star to the right and straight on till morning!" You know where that leads, don't you?

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Vokoban:

@ boomshack

not my fault if the list is that long.

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boomshack:

kerrchdavis:

@boomshack
lol! How'd you know? ;)

I know a guy who has SOURCES deep inside kerrchdavis campaign. and she says kerrchdaivs numbers are crumbling while he is wasting all his free time on Internet and polls. Sound familiar?

OWN!

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alankeyesisawesome:

@PortlandRocks

I'm not gonna give you the source just because you were too lazy to do the research.

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OneAngryDwarf:

When the Wall Street Journal (owned by RW Nut Rupert Murdoch and his cronies) says you have no game, you've got no game.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122480892803665099.html

Look everyone look, Republican's... Lets point and laugh.

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maddiekat:

Rasmussen also said that Obama has been increasing his lead nationally and that Rasmussen reports only gives McCain a 25% chance of winning NC

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fed:

PPP and Civitas are more reliable in NC

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jonny87:

i find it hard to believe that obama could be trailing in NC despite winning 87% of democrats...they have a 46% to 32% affiliation advantage.

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mysticlaker:

Ras polled NC three times in one week until he got a result he liked...

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fox:

LOL where did those boomretards come from?

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boomspin:

LEFTIST COMMIE SCUM! BOW DOWN TO THE GREATNESS OF CONSERVATISM!

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Terranus:

seems VA and NC getting back to red.

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laguna_b:

I still say that enthusiasm and momentum will carry the day for 2-3 points....that is true in NC or anywhere. Voter dispair at the prospect of 4 more years of meltdown will keep all but the most religious McCain supporter at home and fire up the Obamas....I think NC is a likely for Obama and everyone who has seen my posts knows I am very conservative on calling it....

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NextAmericanChapter:

Rasmussen is great for national polling...not so great for state polling.

However, the kings of state polling (Mason-Dixon and SurveyUSA) show tightening in some states like Florida and Virginia.

That being said, without PA, McCain is toast and all that's left to be determined is whether its close or a landslide. And let's all face the facts, McCain would only win PA if Obama went to Philly and took a dump on the Liberty Bell.

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jonny87:

...also not many polls(if any) show unaffiliated going for mccain in NC

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Indiana4Obama:

Ras is the first NC poll to show Obama behind in 2 weeks...and the crosstabs look a little funny. I'll be interested in seeing more NC polls before I worry too much. I know NC is a state the Obama camp feels very confident in, and I'm sure we'll see him back there before the election.

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SoloBJ:

Why did Virgnia turn light blue on the map? Is it because of the Winthrop/ETV poll released today that shows Obama +1?

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fed:

NC real numbers;)

926,155
2008 2004
Party

Dem
55.9% 48.6%
Rep
27.3% 37.4%
None
16.8% 14.1%
Age

18-29
11.0%
30-44
18.4%
45-64
41.3%
65+
29.3%
Race

White
67.9%
Black
28.4%
Other
3.8%
Sex

Men
42.7% 56.6%
Women
56.5% 42.9%
Ballot

Absentee
10.8% 13.1%
One-Stop
89.2% 86.9%
26.1

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MichaelJason:

Survey USA has unaffiliateds going for Obama by double digits but I want to point something out. Rasmussen does NOT ask people if they already voted or include them in his tallies. That means that he's not capturing about 5% of the vote at a minimum.

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Marcus:

Fail poll .. we are up at least by double digits !

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boomspin:

VA AND NC WILL GO RED!

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[nemesis]:

In Soviet Russia, the hookers drug and kill boomshak...

I'm sorry, this "race" is just so lopsided right now, there's no point in even discussing the polls. McCain doesn't stand a chance. Everything with an even REMOTELY believable polling breakdown shows Obama absolutely killing McCain. It doesn't matter if it's battleground states or national, there's just no competition. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if on election night, Obama comes out with 400+ EVs.

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jonny87:

if you go off registration numbers 46D 32R 22I....and say obama gets 10% of republicans and 40% of unaffiliated to add to the 87% of dems he gets 52% of the vote.

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Viperlord:

I'm betting 360 to 375 EVs. And LOL at all the boom parodies.

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boom&KipTinSUCK:

oh boy I watching a McTitanic's event in CO, he's been interrupted twice so far and booed, he looks so oooooooooooooooooollllllllldddddddddddd and lost

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MichaelJason:

Strategic Vision is full of ****. They had Bush/Kerry TIED a few days before election day. Don't believe me?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/nj_polls.html

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fed:

Who interrupted McCain?

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BOOMFAIL:

I have a friend to. He told me McCain will win in a landslide. I am on crack right now. I'm really really high. All of these polls showing a huge and widening gap towards Obama are all part of a vast left wing conspiracy. The economy is strong. It's all in your minds. Maverick. Reformer. Joe the ****ing Plummer. Obama is a socialist even if he just wants to rollback the taxes on the upper 5% like McCain supported a few years back so that the middle class can get some relief. We're winning. Joe Six Pack. Real America goshdarnit! I need a hug. blah blah blah

(sarcasm to those that ride the short bus.)

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mysticlaker:

crosspost from 538....

Scotty Rasmussen is thrwoing the Republican base a bone on his McCain +2 numbers today. Here's how.

NC Poll Monday Obama wins Indies's 59 to 38. Obama + 21

NC Poll today McCain wins Indies +17

37point change in Indies in polls that are essentially concurrent. Scotty who are you kidding?

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MichaelJason:

MysticLaker:

Foxnews pays Rasmussen for polls. I'm sure Rupert Murdoch didn't want his minions demoralized, so he paid RAS good money to fudge the poll.

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boom&KipTinSUCK:

@fed

some people in the audience
They are anti-war demonstrators

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Dana Adini:

lol i noticed that too. huge swing for the indies in NC in a matter of 4 days. One of those polls is way off

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NextAmericanChapter:

The presidential race has lost all its intrigue as to who will win. All that's left is to determine how big Obama's win will be.

But, real intrigue is building up in Minnesota where that psycho Bachmann might lose in a heavily Republican district.

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sunnymi:

Palin's Makeup Artist Highest Paid Staffer

Gov. Sarah Palin's traveling makeup artist was the highest paid person on Sen. John McCain's campaign staff during the first half of October, the New York Times reports.

Amy Strozzi, "who was nominated for an Emmy award for her makeup work on the television show So You Think You Can Dance?, was paid $22,800 for the first two weeks of October alone."

No wonder the McCain campaign is in such trouble

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How is this even possible? Obama and McCain, combined with their own party funds, have roughly the same amount of money for the next 11 days?

This is crazy!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_money

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Mister H.:

From Boomshak:
I have a friend of a friend numbnuts, readt the post.


Alright ladies and gentlemen. I have come to a conclusion.

I'm beginning to think that even Boomshak himself is a JOKE POSTER. It's gotten to the point where the posts don't even look serious anymore....they look like sarcastic jokes.

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DecaturMark:

@mysticlaker:

Rasmussen also probably had trouble reaching a lot of Dems because they were busy voting for Obama.

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Makeup artist? Artist?

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fed:

And read my lips. The days that Rasmussen releases his polls for OH and FL, he brings the tracker down to 4 points . He has done so for the last two weeks

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Dana Adini:

decatur

that's funny

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zen:


In NC primary, Obama outperformed most of the polls (including Ras poll) by high single digit.

So i don't worry unless Ras poll says obama is down by 5.

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NextAmericanChapter:

@ Sunnymi

Palin would have worked if she didn't jump into her role as attack dog with so much relish. Heck, even I liked her at the very beginning but when she started attacking Obama with so much mockery and sarcasm, she made my blood boil and my wallet open. The key reason Obama raised $150 million in Sept is because of this woman. Yup yup...thanks a lot governor...enjoy your makeover while it lasts.

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NextAmericanChapter:

Obama constantly outperformed the polls in states with a large AA populations during the primaries. I'm telling you right now, forget about NC and VA...Georgia is going to be the real shock of the South.

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sunnymi:


@NextAmericanChapter

Anyone would like a good looking woman until she opens her mouth or people know about her policies and history....this is what happened with most of the Independents and weak Democrats leading to high favorability ratings for her and a resulting jump in poll numbers for their ticket.

Once she revealed herself people started detesting her and women more than men ran away from her.

I agree with you on her contribution towards earth shattering fund raising for Obama's campaign in September.

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Nowukkers:

Guess what friends? You remember the GOP volunteer who accused Obama supporters of attacking her - it's not adding up. I don't like schadenfreude, and beating somebody up is pretty heinous, but I wonder who did do it then.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6076307.html

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Dana Adini:

NC is done. 37% early voting...Dems outnumber GOP 2-1.

Paint it blue

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Rollin08:

Can you imagine it for these republicans. They're always saying how it's going to be even by Sunday. And now look at it. This late in the game and all the polls show Obama up.

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cambridge blue:

Gallup -1 McCain in all three models.

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Dana Adini:

new gallup poll

Obama + 7 expanded
Obama + 5 traditional

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sunnymi:


Even Ms. Malkin doubts the story of the girl that claimed she was attacked, mugged and a 'B' carved on her face (and with good reason)

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/why-that-mccain-volunteers-mutilation-story-smells-awfully-weird/

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Rollin08:

"Dana Adini:

NC is done. 37% early voting...Dems outnumber GOP 2-1.

Paint it blue"

: D

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BOOMFAIL:

My friend says Gallup is an outlier.


(Should be much higher!) :)

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NextAmericanChapter:

Gallup and Rasmussen...steady as she goes.

I'm really proud of the campaign that Obama has run thus far. If he continues to show such steady leadership as President, we will not only extricate ourselves from the hole that the Republicans have dug us into, but we'll also make great strides towards perfecting our union.

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jonny87:

...early voting 13% already voted, 19% intend to vote early. whilst early voters are more likely to be partisans it certainly doesnt harm your chances bagging votes early.

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jonny87:

*from gallup

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colorado resident:

McCain has been harassing me at home for weeks. I am receiving up to 3 or 4 robocalls a day. Yesterday I called them back & left them a message about McCain, making a good remark about Obama. Maybe I should fill up the RNC's voicemail with stuff they don't want to hear. I am sick and tired of hearing about the Bill Ayers story. I have checked my facts and don't buy into the lies, but I fear that some have bought into it. Please check your facts http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html
It is interesting that the educational program board that they were both apart of was being supported by the Republican Govenor. There was a republican on that board too who contributes to the McCain campaign. OOOPS, John & Sarah...what will they say? I can see the headlines now..."McCain campaign contributor 'has ties' to terrorist!" PLEASE...McCain thinks you are an idiot and if you give him your vote maybe you are one! I cannot wait until this election is over. At least Obama doesn't have his computer calling me all the time and no one has offered $150 for the leg of Sarah Palin!
Obama, hurry up and win so this will all be over.

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Batony:

North Carolina Early Voting:

An excerpt from their release today:

The pace of Early Voting shows little sign of slowing down, according to elections officials and an analysis of day by day counts. After one full week, a total of 737,000 voters have cast their ballots using North Carolina’s in-person early voting method. With another nine days to go, the total will easily surpass the previous record of one million in the 2004 presidential election.

While the numbers are high ... seven out of every eight registered voters (or 5.4 million) have not yet voted. Blacks and Democrats are participating at significantly higher rates, but those trends could change.
The breakdown by race and party:

* Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 2 to 1 [in early voting], and they are participating at a much higher rate; nearly 1 in 6 registered Democrats has already voted versus 1 in 11 Republicans.

* Whites outnumber Blacks by 2 to 1 [in early voting], but Blacks are participating at a much higher rate –- more than 1 of 6 registered African Americans has voted, compared to 1 of 10 registered white voter.

How anyone thinks that means North Carolina will turn blue beats the hell out of me.

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political_junki:

NPR’s Final Survey: Obama moves into commanding lead in battleground states and on all key elements of campaign
Greenberg Quinlan Rosner
National Public Radio
October 24, 2008 from US Politics > NPR Surveys
Downloads


Executive Summary
With just over a week left before the election, Barack Obama’s strategy of campaigning on a big battlefield may be paying off in a second wave election in a row, and in an entirely new electoral map both for the White House and all other offices. Obama seems to have done everything he needed to do to take advantage of the country’s angry mood and desire to vote for change. This conclusion is based on the latest bi-partisan presidential battleground survey for National Public Radio conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner and Public Opinion Strategies - though these conclusions do not reflect the views of NPR or POS.

While John McCain looked like he might be the candidate to challenge the current trends, that is clearly no longer true in the battleground states where Obama is leading the race 52 to 41 percent - a 15-point swing from Bush’s margin 4 years ago in states he carried by 4 points. This is a fifty percent bigger swing than in the wave election of 2006.

While McCain might have challenged Obama in the battle for independents, Obama has moved into a 12-point lead among these voters. While McCain and Palin might have challenged Obama for Democratic defectors, Obama has consolidated 90 percent of De-mocrats. While McCain and Palin might have won back voters in rural areas, Obama is losing here by only single digits and he is ahead in suburban areas by double-digits. Also, despite McCain having gained the upper hand with more socially conservative Catholics, Obama is ahead with Catholics overall and is in a dead heat for white older non-college women.

McCain made a decision to contest “change” and devalue “experience” and “national security.” That was a costly choice, as change has become dominant over experience by two-to-one as a voting criteria and “keeping the country safe” is proving no more important than the economy and reform in shaping people’s vote.

In this context, Obama has emerged as the stronger leader.

This is being solidified by a growing intensity of communication and voter contact where Obama’s campaign enjoys substantial advantages on traditional forms of campaigning, like TV advertising and door-to-door knocking, phone calls and mail, but also on all forms of internet-based communication.

The financial crisis was a turning point in the election - but largely because it clarified the basis for choosing the president and the qualities and policy approach each candidate brought to the moment.

Methodology

These results are based on a bi-partisan survey conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner in conjunction with Public Opinion Strategies for National Public Radio. The survey fielded October 19-21, 2008 in the presidential battleground states. It has a sample size of 1,000 likely voters and a margin of error of +/-3.2 percent. The battleground states in-cluded in this sample are Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, Minne-sota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Vir-ginia and Wisconsin.

Key Findings
Barack Obama enjoys an 11-point lead (52 - 41 percent) across these 15 battleground states. This represents a 15-point swing since 2004 when President Bush carried this states by 4 points.
The once tough battle between Obama and McCain for independents has broken for Obama as he now holds a 12-point lead among this bloc of voters.
The McCain campaign made “change” the centerpiece of their message following their convention and though they once narrowed Obama’s lead on “bringing the right kind of change” to just 6 points Obama has now tripled that margin over the last month and edges McCain on the central theme of the election by 18 points.
The Obama campaign leads the McCain campaign on contacting voters through all forms of communication, including both the traditional and non-traditional modes of communication.

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Rollin08:

@Batony:

Looks like the Republicans aren't voting.. The Democrats seem a little more motivated huh?

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NextAmericanChapter:

Michelle Bachmann, of "let's hunt down anti-Americans" infamy, is now saying that not all cultures are "equal" and some are better than others!!! What the hell is wrong with this woman?

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Batony:

@Rollin28:

The Republicans aren't voting yet. And finally Palin is hitting Western North Carolina. This is the Bermuda triangle for Democrats nationally.

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MileHigh:

If you like the Greatful Dead, you are a deadhead. If you like Steve Schmidt, then you are a Schmidthead

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MileHigh:

@ Colorado Resident-

I feel your pain! I live in Lakewood, and I've been robofied. It wasn't that bad until they added St. Rudy of 9/11. That guy is such a knob!

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shirefox:

Boom, I can't even imagine a friend of a friend of a friend of ... You get the idea.

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Dan:

I'd be surprised if NC turns blue on Nov. 4. Dems outnumber rebs by 10+% in NC. Always have, yet Bush won by that same persentage. The truth is that many of the "registered" dems, are no longer dems. They switched sides in the great southern political migration of the 70s and 80s. In fact, registered dems have always outnumber registered reps in this country, but the election results do not matc voter registration. Many people register once, when they are young, and never switch, or people switch party affiliations in order to vote in closed primaries. NC is still red.

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Dan:

Someone asked about strategic vision's 2004 polling. They weren't bad. Not the best though. They were right on in OH, very close in PA, WI, MN, and IA. All very close states back then. They did have Bush winning MI, and NJ a deadlock, so they failed there. Overall, slight GOP lean, but not more than about 1%.

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