October 10, 2008
US: Obama 52, McCain 41 (Newsweek-10/8-9)
Newsweek / PSRA
10/8-9/2008; 1,035 RV, 3.7%
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
(story, results)
National
Obama 52, McCain 41
(9/10-11: Obama 46, McCain 46)
By Eric Dienstfrey on October 10, 2008 5:10 PM | Permalink
Comments
Nothing new. We know aready that McCain is toast and by keeping up his slime more and more indies will see the light!
Keep up the KKK rallys McCain/Palin! We are loving the results in the polls!
Astounding, and in line with one month swings in most other polls.
Wow Boomcrap and Kipnip must be trolling at Hannity's website. Where have they been "dog gone it"!
boomshakWindBag! Where ya been? Read for a sleeewwwwww of desperate you tube posts I C!:)
I note that RCP has asjusted their electoral map. WV is now a toss-up. VA is now leaning Obama. Remaining toss-ups are NV, CO, MO, IN, OH, NC and FL. RCP count is Obama 277, McCain 158, Toss-up 103.
With no toss-up states, RCP has NV, CO, OH, NC and FL going Obama; McCain would win MO, IN and WV. Total without toss-ups Obama 353, McCain 185.
By the way, for people watching GA, RCP has Georgia as McCain.
This is the key:
Obama appears to have broadened his coalition of support and made inroads with groups that have not reliably embraced him over the course of the long presidential campaign. He now leads McCain among both men (54 percent to 40 percent) and women (50 percent to 41 percent). He now wins every age group of voters—including those over 65 years of age, who back him over McCain 49 to 43 percent. Supporters of Hillary Clinton, as many as a fifth of whom had at one point told pollsters they'd support McCain over Obama, now back the Democratic nominee 88 percent to 7 percent.
INTERNALS OF THIS POLL SO FRAUDULENT THAT EVEN OBAMA SUPPORTERS MUST LAUGH:
Republican 25 (26%)
Democrat 38 (40%)
Independent 31 (32%)
So this steaming pile of bullsh*t gives Democrats a 14 POINT SAMPLING ADVANTAGE.
What utter BS.
Double digit polls by the weekend, oh ya baby!
Landslide Baby Landslide
@ Boomshak
Thanks for giving us a great example of why Obama has opened up a borderline double digit lead nationally.
@Boomshak
I'm a pretty hardcore politico and I can tell you I have no idea what ACORN is. McCain has completely lost his bearing about who he needs to win this election. He needs the independent voters, not the harcore wing. He's really spinning his wheels with this stuff.
Boomshak: "So this steaming pile of bullsh*t gives Democrats a 14 POINT SAMPLING ADVANTAGE."
Which is right on line with their 10-15 point voter registration advantage.
So, what do you Obama supporters think of the UNBIASED 14 point sampling advantage in this poll?
You will also note that this sampling advantage generated the SAME EXACT RESULTS as Gallup. You can only imagine what his sample looks like.
BS. Stinking rotten, MSM-biased BS.
You people are fools.
Rasmussen says that Democrats have a 5.6 point sampling advantage and that is based upon 20,000 calls over six week.
This poll overshoots that by almost 10 points in favor of Democrats.
Utter tripe.
boomshak that ACORN ad was FLAT STUPID. People will be getting their 401K statements next week. Then they see this piece of SHIT commercial and they will say "WHO CARES... WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY MCCAIN? YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL FOR 8 YEARS, and prior to 2006 for 10 years in congress! Good move McCain. BRILLIANT!:)
Guess Gallup and Research 2000 not so much the outliers afterall, hey boombatty?!
Boom, not talking about the polls and issues anymore? I see you drank the McCain kool-aid ...
BOOM I hate to spoil your excitement over ANOTHER failed poll but I believe National #'s for Republican registration are somewhere around 26-28%! People are EMBARASSED. Look at the high # of independents. This is reasonable.
Odds are Newsweek's next poll will show a tightening. I'm sure Obama is up strongly, but this poll's internals are strange. Obama doing better among men than women?
Not likely.
Did someone say they "don't know who ACORN is"?
WTF? ACORN has been all over the news for VOTER FRAUD in 16 different states. What rock are you people hiding under?
boomshak what was the voter ID advantage in today's FOX NEWS POLL? Huh?:) Obama up 7 baby! But tell McCain to keep campaigning EXACTLY how he has been. We love it!
@BoomShak
No need to get angry amigo ... The real poll is on Nov 4th and the racist democrats will burn their own candidates when it comes to D-day ... They have already shown their colors with Clinton ...
Boom they found 60 registrations with fake names. You do realize RETARD that these people wouldn't be able to vote? Don't you? ROFL
no wonder boomshak likes McCain. They have something in common:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g
RAGE!!!
TEMPER!!!
BoomWINDBAG thinks "Mickey Mouse" and "Bon Jovi" will be able to walk into a polling station and vote DEM! LOL God these people are so desperate and pathetic. It's fun.
WOW, just WOW. McCain just said he's going to find the cause of Autism. And the ultra-right-wing nutters say that Obama thinks that HE'S the messiah. Give me a break.
@NW Patrick:
"BOOM I hate to spoil your excitement over ANOTHER failed poll but I believe National #'s for Republican registration are somewhere around 26-28%! People are EMBARASSED. Look at the high # of independents. This is reasonable."
You are a f*cking idiot my friend. Rasmussen, based upon 20,000 calls over 6 weeks has determined that it is 39% Democrats, 33.6% Republicans.
This poll is complete garbage from a Magazine 100% in the tank for Obozo.
You guys better be careful, you keep this sh*t up and you are going to depress your own turnout.
VivalaRevolucion the "Racist Democrats" have PAID for their stance in the 60's on civil rights by losing the South year after year. What planet are you from man? Seriously EDUCATE. YOU CAN DO IT!
Boomshak,
If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:
Obama 50% McCain 44%
See something? Democrats are united behind Obama. His lead, just like in Rass, is the exact same advantage in Dem. party ID.
Look at this:
Among Hillary supporters, Obama 88% Mc 7%
Democrats are United now. Thank you McNasty!!!
@NW Patrick:
Today's Fox Poll was bullsh*t. Rasmussen has McCain at 45 and Fox has him at 39? Bullsh*t.
Did you all see that weak new ad from McCain about Acorn? LOL Funny stuff.
Did they even research the situation? I mean, the information is right there in front of them and they refuse to get it right.
We have an economic crisis and McCain is afraid to talk about it or offer up any worthwhile solutions.
There he goes again, putting party first and country last.
BoomRetard,
They self identify you idiot. It's a random sample of Americans. If you are an independent and going to vote for Obama, you may say you are Democratic. If you a republican mad at McCain you may say independent. The chips fall as they call.
Get a grip. There is not a conspiracy against the entire republican party with every poll in America. Or do you believe that there is? What pollster is accurate? Name it you coward...All you are in a fucking lame excuse generator. Piss off, or read a book, or do something to smarten up besides hang out at freerepublic or redstate you sorry ass.
[Norm] Coleman told reporters that he would not be appearing at a planned rally with McCain this afternoon. Could it be McCain's sliding polling numbers in Minnesota? His attacks on Obama? Coleman said he needs the time to wo
rk on suspending his own negative ads.
"Today," he said, "people need hope and a more positive campaign is a start."
-there are some intelligent people in the GOP.
BOOM! STATE ELECTION OFFICES, on a national average show DEM advantage ABOVE 10%. This is not a pollster. This is REGISTERED REAL VOTERS.
boomshak you're so sad. This is just 1 poll yes. The fact of the matter is this race is OVER. Your party will get it's ASS KICKED from governerships, to the presidency, the congress...Nov. 4th you should go hide. Seriously. This will be a mandate from Americans of historic proportions. And you know it:)
Me engaging with a troll:
@boomshak. Even if you don't buy the internals of party representation, the fact that Obama went from 46 to 52 over the last month since the last poll by Newsweek (as the internals would have been consistent over the two polls) is meaningful and represents a significant gain.
OK, MORONS, WHAT THE HELL IS OBAMA'S BRILLIANT PLAN FOR THE ECONOMY?
1. Dramatically raising taxes on the small business that employ the MOST people? That's brilliant!
2. A tax credit of $1.40 a day for working Americans? That'll pay the bills!
3. Incentives for small businesses? Unless they are more than the taxes it is a net loss of jobs. If they offset the taxes, why do the taxes?
What else? What other brilliant plans does Obama have that no one else has?
Good for you Coleman. Looks like REASONABLE GOP members will begin to RUN from McCain. He's gone mad!
Boom-
In case you didn't notice this is an RV poll, ie. no filter. People are dumping the Rep party like they were lepers! It's called the bandwagon effect. Once people think one side is going to win they start siding with that party because they don't want to be identified with the losers.
BoomRetard,
You ignorant shit. Read the internals. Voters self identify. The chips fall where they will in this poll. People will say they are democrat even if they may be independent but voting for democrat. Or a republican might say they are indepedent if they are pissed at McCain. It's a sample based on calling Americans randomly.
Is there one pollster you believe you whiny bithc? Name them...Who is not in this vast conspiracy of yours?
Read a book...Do something to smarten up besides reading free republic or redstate or staring blisfully at fox news.
Your friend,
Mystic Laker
PS. Do you like the new asshole we are ripping you? I hope you do, because I am enjoying it you ignorant fuck.
boomshak get mad Boom! Convince us the Republican party will suddenly do better after 8 years of UTTER COMPLETE FAILURE. RECORD Debt, jobs down, world opinion against us, an illegal war, Cmon! Tell America why THIS TIME they will be different! YOU CAN DO IT!
Thanks to McNasty's attacks democrats are railling around Obama. McCain is demonstrating that he is NO MAVERICK, that he is cozy enough with the most radical wing of his party. Nothing brings people together than having a common enemy. In this case, McCain took off his mask and let us see him for whom he is: just another Neo-con/anything-goes Republican.
Thank you McNasty :-)!!!
This is interesting. It's called McCain’s Rage. Even the former head of the Arizona Republican Party doesn’t want Lil’ Napoleon near the nuclear button.
If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:
Obama 50% McCain 44%
See something? Democrats are united behind Obama. His lead, just like in Rass, is the exact same advantage in Dem. party ID.
Look at this:
Among Hillary supporters, Obama 88% Mc 7%
Democrats are United now. Thank you McNasty!!!
Come on Boom! Tell us what positive change McCain and Palin are going to bring us...Please, you ignorant baboon.
Come on boomspin! Persuade us McCain-Palin will do anything but make our situation worse@
boomshak:
1. Dramatically raising taxes on the small business that employ the MOST people? That's brilliant!
Do some research. Copy/Paste from the drudge report doesn't count.
2. A tax credit of $1.40 a day for working Americans? That'll pay the bills!
$1.40 a day works out to $510, which is a big deal. That's a good chunk of a months rent for a lot of people.
3. Incentives for small businesses? Unless they are more than the taxes it is a net loss of jobs. If they offset the taxes, why do the taxes?
If you buy the BS about 50% of small businesses getting a big tax hike, I don't think there's much we can do to help you.
@Boomshak
The Rasmussen tracker is a poll which includes LEANERS. The Fox poll today did not include Leaners - got it?
BOOMSHAK.... you are racists, piece of sh*t! Also, it is obvious that you and the Mccain supporters are DESPERATE!! How does it feels to chase straws? Mccain is acting so freaky ERRATIC, jumping from one issue to the next! It is also laughable. And this thing with the Newsweek cover of Palin??? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME????
Boom, you loser, I don't know a single person other than you currently self-identifying as Republican.
Looking at these pathetic Republicans over the last few days reminds me of Ralph Fiennes' character in Shindler's List, who yelled "Heil Hitler" even as the chair was kicked out from under him while on the gallows. Give me a break, people!
palin was a Dstudent in highschool and it showed on her sat exam!
Stick t obeing a hockey mom toots....
@thoughtful:
You are a smart guy. You can't POSSIBLY think the 14 point sampling advantage to democrats in this poll is fair. You take that out and this poll is right where Rasmussen's is, +5.
This is pure, 100% propaganda. get ready for liberal rule, this is what it will be like.
palin was a D student in highschool and it showed on her sat exam!
Stick t obeing a hockey mom toots....
William F. Buckley's son just endorsed Obama
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-10/the-conservative-case-for-obama/
STOP WITH THE RACIST SHIT! Boom hasn't made any racist comments that I know of, Gregmoron is the racist. But carry on disproving his neoconservative talking points.
carl 29
Great point. In the end it took McCain being McCain to totally unite the Democratic party.
@boom....
Don't you understand. This is not weighted. This is how the 1000 people identified themselves. What don't you get? What is so hard about it?
What is becoming more apparent in the + 5 RAS may be an outlier.
Liberal rule? What is this, a quote from a conservative propaganda pamphlet? We've seen how well conservative "Rule" works, lol.
pardon my french...but hell yea!!!
@[nemesis]:
In this City of Idiots, you are Mayor.
Try to follow me. Obama says he will raise taxes only on individuals making more than $250,000 a year.
Most those "individuals" are actually small business owners filing as Sub S Corps. Since they make over $250,000 a year, they are the bigger companies.
And what do the bigger companies do? Duh, they emplo the most people. And what do employers do when you destroy their profits with taxes? They LAY PEOPLE OFF dumb ass.
Geesh, I guess being a moron IS a prerequisite for being a liberal!
Look at this:
BASED ON VOTERS WHO HAVE SEEN McCAIN ADS
a. Are too negative
yes 56% No 41%
Has seeing these ads made you more likely or less likely to vote for McCain, or have they not made much difference either way?
6% More likely
18% Less likely
Obama gets a net positive on the message of his ads.
==============================
BASED ON VOTERS WHO HAVE SEEN OBAMA ADS
a. Are too negative
Yes 29% No 68%
BASED ON REGISTERED VOTERS
18 More likely
9 Less likely
McNasty gets a net NEGATIVE for the message in his ads.
Boy, Rethugs are sure ANGRY, aren't they?
Lose with some grace for crying out loud, gosh darn it!
Boomshak...go jump off a bridge.
@Boomshak
I'm not happy with the Gender results in this poll, the ID isn't so much of a big deal as Republicans are thin on the ground at the moment.
I think that you agree that Obama has at least a 5 point lead. That's a landslide on Nov 4th.
@Viperlord:
"STOP WITH THE RACIST SHIT! Boom hasn't made any racist comments that I know of, Gregmoron is the racist. But carry on disproving his neoconservative talking points."
Excuse me, but what did I say that was racist? Tying Obama to the fraudsters at ACORN? That isn't racist, that's a fact jack. They are under investigation for voter fraud in 16 different states.
boomshack, correct me if I'm wrong, but one conclusion we can draw is that regardless of party affiliation or who does the polling Obama appears to be beating McCain in a landslide. The landslide is defined by a 7-11 point margin, depending on the poll you take.
RCP is sure gonna look purdy once the old polls fall off this weekend, you betcha!
Boom can you not read? I said you weren't a racist.
@thoughtful:
You guys do realize you are shooting yourselves in the foot with these BS polls don't you?
Yeah sure, the moonbats would show up on the surface of the Sun to vote for their Communist Leader, but the Independents, the ones you need? If they see Obama ahead by 11 they won't bother.
Meanwhile these bogus polls utterly piss of the Republican base.
Keep doing it.
Boom,
The Fox poll allows for the choice of both other or undecided and doesn't ask which way you might be leaning if the election were held today. This is a more traditional way of polling than what Rass and Gallup use in their tracking polls. I do agree that Rass is a more reliable pollster than Gallup though(both are Republican leaning organizations).
George W. Hoover!
Stupider and stupider, that seems to be boom's pattern here.
@Viperlord:
"Boom can you not read? I said you weren't a racist."
You just need to write it better.
So Boomshak. Ok let's calm down. We had your tax policy for 8 years. Now what? HOW DID IT WORK?
Isn't BUSH the one turning our country into Communists with all the control over Banks, etc.??
If we use the same party ID that Rasmussen uses, a 6% party advantage for Dem:
Obama 50% McCain 44%
See something? Democrats are united behind Obama. His lead, just like in Rass, is the exact same advantage in Dem. party ID.
Look at this:
Among Hillary supporters, Obama 88% Mc 7%
Democrats are United now. Thank you McNasty!!!
No you deluded neoconservative jackass retard, it was perfectly clear. I very clearly said you hadn't made any racist comments.
@boomshak
You know I have never berated you, and I have congratulated you in the past for your more sober and cogent comments. You are not showing that side right now.
OH MY GOD! Now Michelle has ties to Ayers because "his wife worked at her hospital." LOL
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_campaign_goes_after_mic.php
SO WHY IS NEWSWEEK CREATING BS POLLS LIKE THIS?
It is simple. Obama's internal polling is showing that McCain's attacks on Obama's character are working.
So he calls Newsweek and asked them to create this silly poll. The idea is to make McCain think that hsi attacks aren't having an effect and give them up.
But McCain has his own internal polling and he KNOWS it is working.
You yourself quoted "Boom hasn't made any racist comments I know of" Do you really not know what that means?
boomshak:
You're kinda jumping to conclusions calling me a liberal. I personally feel gay marriage and abortion are wrong. I just don't think it's right to push my religious beliefs on somebody else.
I consider myself an independent, as I always look at all candidates and make an informed decision. I also take the time to research new stories to see if they are indeed true before I spew crap all over the forums, which is, I guess, one thing that distinguishes us.
In Rasmussen Obama's lead is also equal to Democratic party Adv. This means that Democrats are finally united behind their candidate. See why McNasty is on his knees adoring the Right: He has no hope on bringing Hillary's people to his fold.
BoomFail,
Bush is a ultra nationalist fascist just like his Grandpa, Prescott Bush(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush) and not a communist.
boomshak he also called Zogby, Gallop, Rasmussen, Hotline, and GWU right? ROFL
You are the funniest little man I've ever met.
All these polls are made up. McShame is really WINNING by 10. The MSM just doesn't want you to know that. The economy is fine. You all are a bunch of whiners! I'm ANGRY!! Reformer. Maverick!
PUKE
@m913:
Sorry, but BS POLLS base upon REDICULOUS SAMPLES just for the purposes of PROPAGANDA really really piss me off.
The problem is, this utter bullsh*t poll that is in no way scientific will lead every single news program all night with NO DISCUSSION give to the sample size.
People will swallow it hook lije and sinker and thast f*cking PISSES ME OFF!
boomshak,
Those attacks are helping to bring democrats home. Now Obama adv. is the exact same as Democratic party ID. even according to Rasmussen.
nemesis I think divorce is wrong. If you want to protect marriage, why don't straight people QUIT DIVORCING?
Boom, you think Newsweek does Obama's bidding? OK, now you've entered tin foil hat area. You should get some help, soon, dude.
BS polls like right wing Zogby? Neoconservative Fox News? Polls you yourself have cited in the past Are you really suggesting they're covering for Obama? Please.
ROFLMAO!
Boomshak at his absolute best today. You gotta hand it to him people! I'm still waiting for that tie he was predicting for last Sunday.
boomshak
Man you need to borrow a pill from Cindy McCain!
If this helps boomshak: I used to be a Republican, through March 2000. I read George W. Bush's economic policy statements in early 2000 and became very conflicted. By 2004 I had seen enough and registered Democrat. It's OK to acknowledge, as I did in a period of soul searching, that one's longtime party has left one. I've been there. I'm not one to say the Democrats are perfect. But until the GOP shakes loose its religious demons, it's not a party that a genuine freedom loving conservative can love. I share that in case it helps as a catalyst for your thoughts.
Wingnuts are a bunch of ANGRY, irrational loons. Blah Blah Blah
Have I mentioned.........
Landslide baby Landslide
"WTF? ACORN has been all over the news for VOTER FRAUD in 16 different states. What rock are you people hiding under?"
Looking at the facts, ACORN's minor transgressions in voter registration appear very slight when compared to various Republican efforts to suppress the AA vote, stop recounts, spread rumours that unpaid parking tickets or foreclosure disqualify from voting, etc. etc.
Frankly it amazes me that the Republicans can't come up with anything more substantive than this. They've really thrown in the kitchen sink and the McCain campaign is floundering without a plan.
Seeing the Republicans in a state of panic is very rewarding.
Boom probably right on the sample being to high....
RCP shows it at 10.4
National registration shows it at around 10
Still leaves Senator McCann down 8pts witch is probably right.
The only thing we don't know is what % of Republicans are now calling themselves independents and how many independents that are now calling themselves Democrats...probably 1-2% based on the economic crisis.
I was before gallup before I was against it. I was for Rasmussen before I was against it.
Cherry picking swine.
NW Patrick:
I also agree divorce is wrong. Again, it's for religious reasons, and I don't feel that it's right to push those beliefs on anybody else. I didn't say anything about "wanting to protect marriage." I, personally, tend to shy away from candidates that push banning same-sex marriage or abortions, purely because it's a little arrogant to try and tell other people how they should live their lives.
BTW, I have a relative in a same-sex marriage. Again, his choice. I don't hold it against him.
Also, I've read articles that ACORN is not deliberately perpetrating fraud or anything of the source, in their rush they're just not doing close to a adequate job of cracking down on false registration.
@boomshak
there is a very real danger that Obama will not get his folks to the poll if complancey sets in.
On the other hand Repub turnout in the face of a hopeless caused led by a guy McCain who is really lacking, may be very low.
Personally Repub turnout low Dem turnout high - big overwhelming 395 EVs Obama election - that's my forecast.
@Evolve
But boom won't believe anything other than the 5.7% party affiliation difference that Rasmussen predicts.
Even if there is the possibility of record AA turnout, record youth turnout, a HUGE enthusiasm gap, a great GOTV effort and perhaps the greatest ground game in the history of mankind, nothing can change the fact that THE DIFFERENCE CAN ONLY BE 5.7%.
Personally, I don't give a rats ass. With the most conservative estimate of party affiliation difference, Obama still leads by 5-7 points which is:
LANDSLIDE BABY LANDSLIDE!!!
Boom harp on the media all you want. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A PARTY LOSES ALL CREDIBILITY.
I'm guessing Obama's EV count to be in the mid to high 300s.
Boomshak, those people self-identified themselves, the poll wasn't conducted based on party ID. So show me how the demographics are skewed towards people identifying unfairly towards the Democrats or shut up. The Republican brand is not popular at the moment so while this poll is likely a bit too high in favor of Obama is childish to attack every poll that doesn't go your way. But what else to expect from you.
We let Boom drive the Narrative far too much in these discussions. So instead lets talk about how happy people are with the republican economy and how polls like this one reflect actually human dissatisfaction with the Bushtoberfest.
Bushtoberfest is defined as a period of time where the world wide financial markets fall completely apart due to deregulation and incompetence. Then the stock market drops 3000 points.
Please credit me when using the word Bushtoberfest in future posts.
11 point swing...
Posted on October 10, 2008 5:25 PM