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US - Obama 52, McCain 45 (USA Today/Gallup)

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USA Today / Gallup
10/10-12/2008; 1,269 adults.
Mode: Live Telephone Interview.
USA Today story, blog post preview.

National

Registered Voters
Obama 51, McCain 44
(9/27-29: Obama 49, McCain 45

Likely Voters
"A measure that takes into account the individuals' past voting histories."
Obama 50, McCain 46

"A measure of 'likely' voters that does not take into account the individuals' past voting histories, and instead focuses solely on their 'current voting intentions.'"
Obama 52, McCain 45



 

Comments
IndependentThinker:

Democrats, please don't be complacent cause there are still 3 weeks to go and aside from early voting people don't cast their vote yet
Keep working to get rid of those nasty Republicans

OBiden 08

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NW Patrick:

Per Rasmussen moments ago.

Obama up 49-47 in OH. (Trailed by 1 previously.)

Obama up 50-47 in VA.

Obama up 51-46 in FL.

Obama up 50-47 in MO.

Obama and McCain TIED in NC 48-48.

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makersmark:

was hoping for larger leads by Obama, maybe it is tightening.

OH and MO are great news. Happy with Florida, NC and VA not so much


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jeepdad:

Rasmussen must really push their leaners. Good news indeed.

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jeepdad:

@makersmark

Remember, McCain can't afford to lose ANY of these states. Obama just needs one of these, states, plus Iowa and Kerry states, and he wins.

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political_junki:

Ayres non-issue attacks are paying off!
FOR OBAMA!!!
LOL :)))
Booooom where are you?

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Inkan1969:

@makersmark

Actually, the VA numbers are good. Last week, Obama was up by only 2 points. So a 3 point lead is at least in the right direction. Now NC is tightening according to Ras. But it's so cool that NC is the state where Obama vs. McCain is iffy. Ohio is a breakthrough; Obama leads at last. MO numbers look stable, and FL numbers look great, better than the +3 lead from last time.

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jonny87:

ill take florida.

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WhereisMitt:

@makersmark

Not happy with NC and VA? A Dem isn't supposed to be anywhere near competitive in NC and VA. Obama is far outperforming expectations there. I think he can take VA. NC was/is probably a long stretch anyway. Florida, Ohio, and Missouri are his to lose. NC might be statistical noise, though.

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carl29:

Remember guys that at this point there are not that many "movable" voters, preferences are hardening. So, don't expect major swings from one week to the other.

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McShame:

Remember Bush won all these states. Obama can lose all these states and still find a way to win. But its nice to see him ahead in most of them.

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AlanSnipes:

The point about these polls is that there is movement in Obama's direction. Va. stayed the same and there was movement to Obama in the other states. This is great news!

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jonny87:

anyone from pennsylvania round here? mccain conceding the state? these numbers suggest his money is better spent elsewhere

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makersmark:

@where is mitt

I'm just getting greedy

:P

I also forget to only compare these numbers to past RAS #s, in which case they are all pretty much great news

:)


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carl29:

jonny87,

I don't think McCain will/can openly concede PA, like he did with MI. That will be the worst PR tactic for his struggling campaign. Imagine the message that it would send to his supporters. I think he will keep on pretending that he is fighting for PA.

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JFactor:

This poll is +7 for Obama and and pretty much solidifies the concept that Obama is ahead by that amount nationally like Pollster's and RCP's averages show.
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http://www.internationalpoliticstoday.com

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makersmark:

Holy **** RCP just turned Florida blue!!!


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jonny87:

to anyone not happy with obamas virginia number...he told a fundraiser that he is 6 or 7 points up there. im guessing there counting on the new voters to show up

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stevie314159:

Mark,

Have you figured out yet that the Gallup/USA Today polls published on Monday are almost EXACTLY the same as the Gallup Daily Tracking one posted on Sunday.

I don't think they do a separate poll, but take some subset of the Th-F-Sa numbers.

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JFactor:

This poll is +7 for Obama and that pretty much solidifies the concept that Obama is ahead by that amount nationally like Pollster's and RCP's averages show.
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http://www.internationalpoliticstoday.com

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Pat:

Rasmussen has been giving Virginia a closer margin (Obama +2 in previous poll)than other pollsters PPP (Obama +8), SurveyUSA (Obama +10), Suffolk (Obama +12). So I am not surprised that it is Obama +3 this time. At least it is the right direction.

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Thatcher:

RCP has moved Florida to "Lean Obama" after Rasmussen's latest poll.

Now:
304 Obama
158 McCain
(+27 for Obama)

No Toss Up:
364 Obama
174 McCain
(stayed the same)

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boomshak:

Weird Poll.

Gallup shows Obama +7 among likely voters in his poll but +4 here.

Strange.

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WhereisMitt:

I don't see McCain conceding PA. After having given up on Michigan, giving up on PA would signal that he has pretty much given up on the election. There is a push out here in the Philly suburbs. There are McCain/Palin signs everywhere. However, he would be better off spending time defending VA, NC, IN, OH, and FL. PA is, in my opinion, a waste of time, even if he's only behind by 7 or 8 points. PA is gone.

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1503er:

If it's true that CO, NM, IA, and NH are indeed Obama states, and it appears they are; and Obama keeps the Kerry states, Obama can lose OH, VA, FL, MO, NC, and NV and still win the election.

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boomshak:

2 polls taken by same guy over same 3 days, totally different results.

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Thatcher:

@stevie314159 -

That's not true. ... I would have to go back - but I do remember one (in August) Monday when Gallup was +7 or 8 for Obama while USA Today had it even or McCain small lead.

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IndependentThinker:

Guys, RCP just moved FL from toss up to leaning OBiden. I can't wait to be on Nov 4th night in front of my TV set
If on Nov 4th Obama picks VA, NC and FL I might go to bed without awaiting the West Coast's results

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jonny87:

carl29,

of course he wont officially concede, the way they handled michigan was bizarre. i was just wondering if people are still seeing the same volume of mccain ads in PA. he can win without PA but not without 6/7 other states wheres hes behind and hes only got so much money to go around.

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boomshak:

What's amazing to me is that McCain's is a swirling vortex of suck and yet it's still this close.

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jonny87:

carl29,

of course he wont officially concede, the way they handled michigan was bizarre. i was just wondering if people are still seeing the same volume of mccain ads in PA. he can win without PA but not without 6/7 other states wheres hes behind and hes only got so much money to go around.

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Thatcher:

@boomshak -

You know nothing about polling, do you. Just shut the F&ck up.

When dealing with media and polling - Major outlets (USA Today, MSNBC, etc) work with their pollsters on demographic tweaks the media outlet believes are more pertinent to the election. Chuck Todd talks about this when he talks about MSNBC poll results.

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carl29:

Pat,

Ras' only polls LIKELY VOTERS, voters with voting history, and keeps party ID in each state fairly constant. Ras' will not detect Democratic surge in the state, neither new register voters.

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kerrchdavis:

@boomshak

Hey boom, what happened to gallup today? I thought McCain was surging.

Do we have a tie race by Sunday?

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1503er:

If McCain does in fact lose CO, IA, NM, and NH, keeps all the other Bush states, AND wins PA then he wins the election. That's why he'll never pull out of PA.

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fed:

Ok, battleground polls are out today, Rasmussen daily tracking will go up again tomorrow, two days before the next battleground polls are out, Obamas lead shrinks again in the tracking polls. Look at the trends in the daily tracking polls and then the days that the OH and FL polls come out and you will see what I mean

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kerrchdavis:

Someone want to tell me what the final tally is if Obama wins:

Kerry States + IA + NM + CO + NV + OH + NC + FL + MO + IN + VA

Boom, how many EVs is that?

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jonny87:

boomshak,

you suprised about how mccain didnt come out with anything today?...strange.

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PooNani:

@boomshak:

"2 polls taken by same guy over same 3 days, totally different results"

I see what you're trying to do, but its all within the margin of error.


Registered Voters: 51-41 vs 51-44
Likely Voter model 1: 51-44 vs 50-46
Likely Voter model 2: 53-43 vs 52-45

Perhaps the USA Today one they push the leaners harder?

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boomshak:

Palin just had 30,000 people show up to see here in VA. Weird weird election.

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political_junki:

BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
Where were you man? We missed you here.

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Thatcher:

@kerrchdavis:

Oooh ooh me me me ... 375!

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political_junki:

BOOM:
Do you realize we are talking about VA? It is supposed to be deep red and then you are suprised Obama is not up by more than 3? Come on!

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boomshak:

@political_junki:

Makin a livin dude - plus I'm pissed at McCain for being so lame. McCain is making Bob Dole look like a brilliant campaigner.

Still, these polls keep coming in close. So strange.

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kerrchdavis:

@boomshak

"What's amazing to me is that McCain's is a swirling vortex of suck and yet it's still this close"

Whats amazing to ME is how one person (You) can be so completely wrong time after time after time. How one person (you) can be such an idiot so consistently. How one person (you) can make themselves look like a fool and blowhard day after day after day.

Every single time you come in here to tell everyone that McCain is surging because 2 out of 12 national polls show him gaining by 1-2 points, the lead widens again the next day and you remind everyone how stupid you actually are.

pathetic. fail.

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1503er:

That would 375 EVs for Obama kerrchdavis.

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NW Patrick:

boomshak THIS CLOSE? I am laughing so hard. Keep dreamin'.

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kerrchdavis:

@thatcher

lol! :D

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[nemesis]:

Ok, boomshak, even DRUDGE REPORT says it was only 20,000, and that's probably twice the actual number if history serves.

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political_junki:

Well, it is not a good year to be a republican candidate, These things are cyclic. You know it, I know it...Maybe we should take it a little bit easy around here

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carl29:

boomshak,

Don't you remember all the crowds that Obama got during the primaries and some times he lost the state to Hillary. Don't let yourself be fool by the crowds.

About the state of the race:

Don't worry. Just yesterday you say that today's numbers will showing Obama losing ground, even further. Did that happened? Um...there is always tomorrow. Remember that
1) These are all liberal/flawed polls 2) There is the Bradley effect 3)This is a right/center country and Obama is such a Liberal.

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kerrchdavis:

Check out boomshaks "close."

National Gallup Tracking Obama 52, McCain 43.5 Obama +8.5
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5
National Reuters/CSpan/ Zogby Tracking Obama 48, McCain 44 Obama +4
National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 42 Obama +6
National ABC News/Wash Post Obama 53, McCain 43 Obama +10
National Democracy Corps (D) Obama 51, McCain 42 Obama +9
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8

lol, what a joke. fail you tool.

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WhereisMitt:

And don't forget about the 26,000 O'Biden pulled in the town of Fredericksburg, Virginia a few week ago.

That's right. Home of the Civil War Battle of Fredericksburg. 26,000.

Any AZ polls out lately?

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mysticlaker:

Enjoy those 30,000 people boom...Have fun!

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carl29:

boomshak,

Ask the drudge why he doesn't have the link for today's Gallup tracking. I wander why? Is that cherry-picking or the drudge was for Gallup before he was against Gallup :-)!!!!

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kerrchdavis:

30,000? I didn't know lynch mobs we're still that popular.

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Bonzi77:

@Whereismatt

I was at that Obama ralley in Fredericksburg. He drew 20,000+ (I'm not sure I quite buy 26) in a driving rain. It was insane. The school (which I graduated from) only has 4,000 students and the campus wasn't anywhere near big enough to hold that many people.

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NW Patrick:

Wait..30K at a Palin rally? I thought the McCain campaign was anti-celebrity? LOL

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WhereisMitt:

@Bonzi77

I got the 26,000 from the Free Lance Star. Apparently, there were 14,000 inside and another 12,000 on the perimeter listening who couldn't get in (either that or 12,000 inside and 14,000 outside). I know many people who wanted to go but couldn't get in.

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s.b.:

Again, so if the likely voter spread is 45 why is the RV being reported as the "legitimate result"? Generally if Lv is available, RV is not reported. LV is considered more accurate, jut as RV is more accurate than adults. It's very disappointing from Pollster.

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carl29:

WhereisMitt,

Do you remember all the crowds Obama got in state that he ended up losing to Hillary?

Don't let yourself be fooled by crowd sizes.

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s.b.:

Again, so if the likely voter spread is 4% why is the RV being reported as the "legitimate result"? Generally if Lv is available, RV is not reported. LV is considered more accurate, jut as RV is more accurate than adults. It's very disappointing from Pollster.

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s.b.:

In 2004 the last RV poll reported and aggregated or averaged was on october 4th. We are nine days past that now. Gallup went to LV after the first debate. There si no reason for this other than to bias the results in favour of Obama by 3%. It is totally unprofessional and wreckless, given the nature of the race.

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CAlefty:

"McCain's is a swirling vortex of suck"

Why would you vote for a vortex of suck? After 8 years of Bush I realize that it's a shock to have a competent contender for your vote. Go ahead, pull the lever for Barack, you know you want to.

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WhereisMitt:

@carl29

Hey, I'm not fooled at all. Listen, I'm writing in Romney this year. But let's not think that just because Palin pulls 30,000 that's a sign McCain/Palin are going to win. It might be a sign of why this race isn't completely over, that's all. People on both sides of the political aisle are energized. Palin pulls 30,000, O'Biden pulls 26,000. People are involved this election cycle. I'm sure Hillary wished that Obama had not attracted those people to his rallies. It was a testimony to his staying power, even in states he eventually lost.

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kerrchdavis:

@sb

LV models typically favor McCain so nice try but you fail.

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carl29:

s.b.,

Gallup now has a whole new game,
3 different results: 1) Registered Voters, 2) Likely Voters, 3) Likely + New Voters.


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DTM:

Given that millions will vote for McCain/Palin no matter what happens overall, it doesn't really say much if thousands show up for a particular McCain or Palin event.

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[nemesis]:

Unless you can link to the 30,000 number, please quit quoting it. The only number I've seen is listed on the drudge report website Republican) and it says 20,000. It links to this news article.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/13/palin_stays_on_the_offensive_a.html

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VivalaRevolucion:

McCain may be a vortex of suck ... He is better than Obama ( and Bush) .. 4 more years of incompetence with Obama the marxist nut to follow Bush the religious nut ... Americans just do not get it ... Aya Caramba .. Sad country ...

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[nemesis]:

VivalaRevolucion:

Please, if you're such an expert, please give us an accurate and in-depth description of Marxism.

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Thatcher:

You know what's great -

Is another day off polls released and McCain only shows a lead on one of them ... Georgia. ... That's right ... Georgia.

Every battleground state, every national tracking poll, Heck, even a couple of red-leaning states come out daily and almost all them showing Obama Blue.

Yup... it's a close race ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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carl29:

WhereisMitt,

Look at this: From Gallup

"Democrats’ Election Enthusiasm Far Outweighs Republicans’"

October 13, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- Only 51% of Republicans say they are more enthusiastic about voting than in previous years, compared to 71% of Democrats, marking a shift from October 2004, when enthusiasm was about the same for both partisan groups.

Here is the link:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111115/Democrats-Election-Enthusiasm-Far-Outweighs-Republicans.aspx

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BOOMFAIL:

To all those who state that Obama's lead should be larger than the polls show, be patient. Come November 5th you will get your wish with a nice fat spread to Obama, my friends.

The "folks" that show up to see Palin are the ones who think she was winking at them personally at the VP "debate." The difference between Obama and the McShame campaign is that they don't try to tear her down as being a "celebrity" or a messiah. She has them under her spell (with the help of Pastor Muthee)
ooh ee ooh ah ah, ting tang wallawallabingbang!

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VivalaRevolucion:

Bush = Fiscally a liberal spender a gogo; Social conservative

Obama = Fiscally even more liberal ; Social Liberal

When is America going to go back to its roots of fiscal conservatism? Who cares about all this social ****? Leave it to the individual states --

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miatch:

Viva, if you think Obama is a marxist, you do not know what the word means,

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ Nemesis

If you had any brains , I could justify wasting my time explaining to you marxism .. But you don't !

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miatch:

McCain is claiming it was his intention all along to behind. And it seems his cretin followers actually believe him

Boom, why are republican's soooo dumb?

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ miatch

oh please do tell me what it means professor !

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kerrchdavis:

National Debt When Jimmy Carter ...

...arrived at the White House:

$660 billion.

Added during Carter's four years: $337 billion.

Added during Ronald Reagan's eight years: $1.6 trillion.

Added during George H. W. Bush's four years: $1.6 trillion.

Added during Bill Clinton's eight years: $1.5 trillion.

Added during George W. Bush's seven years, nine months: $4.5 trillion.

Portion of the $9.5 trillion added to the national debt during the past 31 years and seven months that came during Republican presidencies: $7.7 trillion.

Percentage of that $7.7 trillion added during George W. Bush's two terms: 58%.

Perhaps we should re-think the term "fiscally conservative."

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VivalaRevolucion:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/13/wall.bush-obama/

Obama and Bush share a lot more than you idiot libs think they do ...

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ticketstub:

@VivalaRevolucion

From all this "leave it to the states" talk, I think you would have loved the Articles of Confederation. If we'd left it to the states in the last century, it would have been a LONG time before full desegregation.

But you and I agree, running on social issues give other issues short change. Unfortunately, some social issues are inextricably linked to actual policy (gay rights, a woman's right to choose, etc).

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[nemesis]:

"VivalaRevolucion:
@ Nemesis
If you had any brains , I could justify wasting my time explaining to you marxism .. But you don't !"

Bravo! Your superior intellect has won the day once again. Or not. Don't bother going the "brains" route with me, boomshak already tried that. Believe me, any explanation you can give(which I'm sure won't be much of an explanation at all,) I will have absolutely no problem understanding. Good luck.

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OneAngryDwarf:

@VivalaRevolucion

If you don't like the Social stuff then change it. The Republican strategy is based off of the social conservative movement and has been since Reagan.

How else do you get vast voting blocks of people to vote against their own self interest. If people voted strictly on economic concerns the Republican's would carry about 2% of the popular vote. By firing up the "base" with Abortion, Gay Rights, and other such non-sense they get people to vote for them that would otherwise vote their pocket book.

The myth of Republican fiscal conservatism is that it helps everyone, it doesn't. America is strong when the middle class is strong. The Phil Gramm/Grover Norquist economic cut taxes/deregulate/borrow & spend model of government doesn't work and we are paying for it now. If you don't believe me look at the legislation put forth by Phil Gramm, then look at the industries involved, then find the list of the largest bankruptcies in history.

It is amazing how much damage one man with a bad financial strategy can do. Oh yeah and Phil Gramm wrote John McCain's initial economic policy.

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miatch:

Viva, first you claim he's a Marxist, then you say his policies are identical to Bush's. So now you consider Bush a Marxist?

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ miatch and nemesis

Does that sound like marxism to you?

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=195153

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kerrchdavis:

lol, Obama a marxist!? roflmao! I see you've been getting those McCain flyers.

Tell us Vivala, what are you going to do on Tuesday, Nov 4th right after the Major news networks start projecting an Obama win.

What is the FIRST thing you are going to do? please, tell us.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ miatch

I really do not care for Bush or Obama ... 2 idiots and you like one of them .. I like neither ..

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miatch:

Viva,
you get your info from Steve Doocy? No wonder you don't know what words like Marxism mean.

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miatch:

Here's a tip, Viva. Just because you do not like someone, does not mean they are Marxists.

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[nemesis]:

kerrchdavis:

I'm gonna make a guess regarding your 7:14 post and say that they'll soil themselves with an unusually large bowel movement, followed immediately by the extent of their english vocabulary. "I just shat myself!"

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ miatch

you poor thing ! You probably do not even have half my education you moronic soul .. Just because you are a liberal does not make you smarter than anyone else on this board .. you frikin elitist !

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miatch:

Viva,
Did I hurt your feelings by pointing out that you get your info from Doocy? Your the one who posted the link.

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kerrchdavis:

@vivala

actually, being a liberal PROBABLY makes you smarter than everyone on this board. I mean, when conservatives here are made up of you, boomshak and kiptin, it really isn't that hard.

Tell us Vivala, what will you do when Obama wins in a landslide and the majority of the country is rejoicing. What will you be doing?

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whitetower:

I think the thing to keep in mind is that clearly McCain has stopped the hemhoragging. Clearly, all of the states that Obama needs (i.e., either OH, VA, or FL) are either within or very close to the polls' margins of error.

That's amazing, given the news for the last month. In other words, McCain still is basically as close (or closer) than he was during July-August.

Just for laughs, take a look at this electoral college estimate from roughly this time in '04:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Oct11.html

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[nemesis]:

VivalaRevolucion:

When you have proper sentence structure, punctuation, and grammar, we MAY start to believe you have an eduction. That, of course, only applies to those of us who were not around to see you not even able to make sentences in English that make sense.

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whitetower:

I think the thing to keep in mind is that clearly McCain has stopped the hemhoragging. Clearly, all of the states that Obama needs (i.e., either OH, VA, or FL) are either within or very close to the polls' margins of error.

That's amazing, given the news for the last month. In other words, McCain still is basically as close (or closer) than he was during July-August.

Just for laughs, take a look at this electoral college estimate from roughly this time in '04:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Oct11.html

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[nemesis]:

My deepest apologies, I forgot to mention spelling. Please get that straightened out as well.

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kerrchdavis:

@nemesis

Oh RIGHT, I forgot, he's the one that can't even put coherent sentences together.

@Vivala

When you are a low life scumbag, everyone looks like an elitist by comparison. How are those English classes coming?

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Eternal:

Too funny...

Boom's current line reminds me of the ole' "Why can't Obama get to 50%" question they used to ask.

Funny, I don't hear that question anymore.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ nemesis

You are a funny man ( or woman or hermie ..).. Your utter stupidity is remarkable!

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ticketstub:

@whitetower

Just because McCain stopped the hemhoraging, doesn't mean he's in the same place he was in July/Aug. I mean, at the very least, he was quite competitive in Michigan then, Pennsylvania seemed competitive and he wasn't nearly as close to losing Florida. Just with those three changes, he is much, much closer to losing in November.

And that 2004 map...FL, CO, NM, VA. That's all I have to say about that

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ Kerrchdavis

Pretty good amigo .. Did you get your high school degree yet ? I can pass you some tips ...

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kerrchdavis:

@Vivala

SO what are you going to do the night it is announced that Obama will win in a landslide?

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kerrchdavis:

@Vivala

Well, my dog could use some intermediate training tips. She's about 10 months old now and her intellectual ability is probably a little short of yours.

Shes not a Republican though so she might actually be a little smarter than you.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ kerrchdavis

The landslide will take your boy Obama under --

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miatch:

Kerrch,

Viva is a good American, so he will of course be celebrating another great day in the history of democracy. I'm sure he will do all he can to help our new President be as successful as humanly possible.

Right, Viva?

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[nemesis]:

VivalaRevolucion:

Please, show me examples of my "utter stupidity" so I can improve. While you're working on that one, you might as well try to find out what Marxism is so you can come back and show us that you're NOT the complete idiot that everybody already knows that you are.

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VivalaRevolucion:

@ Kerrchdavis

Your dog is a definite democrat (all dems are dogs as well) !! we knew that already .. Hopefully you will evolve into a repub at some point of your lifetime ...

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VivalaRevolucion:

You guys are too easy .. No wonder you are liberal souls :) ... Well back to having a life and leave all you pathetic lowlife losers battle this out ...

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straight talk:

John McCain is running at Bob dole like numbers states wise. He is in trouble!

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[nemesis]:

"Your dog is a definite democrat (all dems are dogs as well) !! we knew that already .. Hopefully you will evolve into a repub at some point of your lifetime ..."

Cool!!! It'd be like Darwinism, only going backwards!

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straight talk:

McCain is in deep trouble! Trailing in Ohio and FLorida. He is Bob Dole all over again!

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carl29:

"the states that Obama needs (i.e., either OH, VA, or FL)" Obama needs or McCain needs?

Obama CAN win WITHOUT THOSE STATES: VA is Bush state, OH is a Bush state, FL is a Bush state. It is McCain who cannot lose any other Bush state because he already lost 2, IA and NM. In addition to being on his way to losing CO as well, another Bush state. Right now in CO is Obama ahead 49% vs. McCain 45%. In fact the last time that McCain led in any poll in CO was back in sept. 14, a month ago. This fight is being fougth in McCain's turf. Obama was very effective at taking all the Kerry's states off the table. Now he is just attacking McCain on his/Bush states.

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kerrchdavis:

lol! It would be like evolving from a dog into a strain of bacteria with bad economic policies.

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kerrchdavis:

@vivala

Tell us, what are you going to do that night when America and the world is rejoicing over a huge Obama victory and the democrats take a stronger hold of congress?

Where will you be?

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carl29:

This was the electoral college count 4 years ago:

RealClearPolitics Electoral Count
Thursday, October 14: Bush 264 - Kerry 237

Solid Bush (176)

Leaning Bush (88)

Toss Up (37)

Leaning Kerry (84)

Solid Kerry (153)

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[nemesis]:

kerrchdavis:

I'm really starting to wonder if he's serious, or if he just gets on here to have a good time. If he honestly thinks McCain is going to win in a landslide, he needs some serious, serious medication.

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kerrchdavis:

@nemesis

considering that he is dumber than a dog, anything is possible.

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kerrchdavis:

@vivala

C'mon viva, tell us! where will you be the night of Nov 4th, when Obama wins in a landslide and the country and the world is rejoicing.

where will you BE?

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carl29:

This was the electoral college count 4 years ago:

RealClearPolitics Electoral Count
Thursday, October 14: Bush 264 - Kerry 237

Solid Bush (176)

Leaning Bush (88)

Toss Up (37)

Leaning Kerry (84)

Solid Kerry (153)

RealClearPolitics current electoral college:

Obama/Biden 304 - McCain/Palin 158

Solid McCain (140)

Leaning McCain (18)

Toss Up (76)

Leaning Obama (93)

Solid Obama (140)

See the size of McCain problem?

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kerrchdavis:

@nemesis

guess he ran off. he must have been late for a klan meeting.

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carl29:

This was the electoral college count 4 years ago:

RealClearPolitics Electoral Count
Thursday, October 14: Bush 264 - Kerry 237

Solid Bush (176)

Leaning Bush (88)

Toss Up (37)

Leaning Kerry (84)

Solid Kerry (153)

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RealClearPolitics current electoral college:

Obama/Biden 304 - McCain/Palin 158

Solid McCain (140)

Leaning McCain (18)

Toss Up (76)

Leaning Obama (93)

Solid Obama (211)*

*I made the mistake of getting McCain number, ew :-)

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[nemesis]:

kerrchdavis:

Now Now, I wouldn't be THAT mean. I think the Klan has a minimum IQ requirement that he wouldn't meet. Anyways, I'm off to accomplish some more productive things. Talk to you all later.

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boomshak:

MCCAIN ADS:

Note to John McCain. I DO NOT understand what the hell your campaign is doing.

You MUST win NC. You MUST win VA. You are running ZERO ads here in NC. None. Zip. Nada. You are running ZERO ads in Northern Virginia.

But you ARE campaigning in Iowa and Wisconsin, neither place you have any chance of winning.

So pardon my French, but WHAT THE FLYING F*CK ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR MONEY?

Worst Campaign Ever - and yet Obama only leads by 4.

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miatch:

Boom,
you have trouble counting. Obama is up by 7 in this poll.

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raisethewhiteflag:

Clintons capaigning for obama heavy from here on out= game over!

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JFactor:

It's just sad to see people use terms like "communist" or "marxist" or "socialist" or "fascist" without any concept of what those terms actually mean. It's a sign of unintellectualism. And it works for both ways - all the liberals who call Bush "a fascist" immediately lose credibility in my eyes and all those call Obama "a socialist" is probably someone so partisan that they are not good conversation company.
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