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wow

I've never heard of "Rainmaker" before, and, as much as I'd really like for this poll to be accurate, it just seems too far out compared to all the other polling in WV. I would have no objections to a few more polls saying the same thing though...

Interesting but I don't believe it. Need more!

Although I wish it's true I don't believe it either I need to see more polls of WV before getting exited

Eric,

Where is the link to the poll info?

Two reasons for not caring too much about this poll, though ... first, it is old (conducted 1 week ago) ... second, never heard of this pollster ...

It would be great if WV would go blue ... but we need more data ...

Kind of old info for polling--have always wondered why WV wasn't more D.

Where was everyone? What was happening? Were we all shocked to silence by the $150,000 clothing expenditure of Sarah Palin?

Only 600 LV, and I have never heard of them either. I do not trust this one. Give another 2-3 days, look at another WV poll, then maybe I can respect this one

It is a bit old, but I have difficulty believing McCain has a solid lead in WV, as the previous 3-4 WV polls would seem to suggest, polls which would imply that WV has basically gone in the opposite direction as much of the rest of the country over the last six weeks or so.

So, yes, more WV polls!

I don't know what to believe. Of the previous 6 polls done the range in WV has been from +9 McCain to +1 McCain this being the 2nd at +1 (although the other +1 was rainmaker also)

There was also a +2 McCain, a +6 McCain and a +8 McCain. What that tells me is unless internals are way off for some of these polls, WV is in play but leaning Repub (probably between 4 and 6 points) This one will be interesting to watch.

Basically if Ann Seltzer is completely right and entheusiasm among younger voters is being vastly underestimated WV could go blue, but it'll be a longshot if it does.

Never heard of the pollster and the results seem to be an outlier.

NEXT!!

This must be trash day. This poll actually more recent and has more respondents than one of the other state polls today.

This is not a real poll! NEXT!

"if enthusiam among younger voters is being vastly underestimated WV could go blue . . ."

In WV, a "younger voter" is under 65.

Agreed not reliable. Wopuld love it to be so, but I am not a bloviated, slack jawed, knuckle dragger that grasps onto outliers as my only hope - no offense to any of you BSJKDs.

CNN state polls good for Obama.

http://www.rainmakermediagroup.com/RMG-Poll-102208.pdf

@Stonecreek

I'm only saying if the Seltzer model is correct. Additionally at last census only 15.3% of WV was 65+ with 62.4% being 18-65 range and 22% being in the 18-34 range.

I agree it's more than likely WV will be red (especially after the new CBS poll today too) but I still think it could be in play depending on how bad some of the likely voter models are.

Too many pie charts.

Interesting that this poll has similar support for Obama as other polls but McCain appears to have lost support to undecided.

Perhaps McCain's support is soft in WV?

This is what an internal poll looks like, in case anyone was confused about the concept.

Well I still don't believe 1 sec Obama will pick WV, not that he needs to. But getting withing MOE in a red state from time to time is good for BO/JB, this makes the republicans feel unsafe and pour some ressoures (human+financial) there.

Coconut Cream Pie, Pecan Pie, Apple Pie, Sweet Potatoe Pie, Pumpkin Pie, Cherry Pie, etc.

Confession time... I am originally from WV and still visit there regularly. I'm always amazed at what a time warp it seems like when I do go there.

What do WV-ians base their vote on you ask? The TV. It's their only connection to the outside world. Sadly, whoever Fox news makes a better case for will win WV. I expect McCain will win WV by a wide margin come 11-4.

Another poll that cannot be trusted. MOE is just too high